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'''''Note''' -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see [[Thief (Disambiguation)]].'' |
'''''Note''' -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see [[Thief (Disambiguation)]].'' |
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::''Returning players may want to read the page for [[Returning Players]], and [[Thief Newbie Help Guide]] before continuing.'' |
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|skill1=Survival|skill2a=Weapon|skill2b=Lore|skill3a=Armor|skill3b=Magic |
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|abilities=[[:Category:Khri|Khri]], [[Blindside]], [[Thief#Sign Language|Sign]], [[Thief#Passages|Passages]], [[Ventriloquism|Voice throw]], [[Slip]], [[Contact_command|Contact]], [[Lockpick carving]], [[Poison Resistance]], [[Mark]] |
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==Official Information== |
==Official Information== |
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Information courtesy of [http://www.play.net/dr/info/guilds/thief.asp Dragonrealms Website]. |
[[Image:ThiefCrest.jpg|thumb|'''[[Guild Crests|Guild crest]]:''' A blank charger shrouded by a concealing veil]]Information courtesy of [http://www.play.net/dr/info/guilds/thief.asp Dragonrealms Website]. |
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=== Guild Hall Locations === |
=== Guild Hall Locations === |
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That is a secret -- think of gaining entry to the guild as your first test. |
That is a secret -- think of gaining entry to the guild as your first test. |
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; [[Zoluren]] |
; [[Zoluren]] |
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:The young snake [[Varsyth|Kalag the sly]] has brought order to the |
:The young snake [[Varsyth|Kalag the sly]] has brought order to the [[Thief Guildhall (Zoluren)|Guild]]. |
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; [[Therengia]] |
; [[Therengia]] |
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:[[Crow]] and [[Yaurilua Suanealaena|Swan]] watch over their |
:[[Crow (person)|Crow]] and [[Yaurilua Suanealaena|Swan]] watch over their [[Thief Guildhall (Therengia)|Den]]. |
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:Kingpin [[Wulras]] runs the Musparan [[Thief Guildhall (Muspar'i)|crime syndicate]]. |
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; [[Ilithi]] |
; [[Ilithi]] |
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:The |
:The [[Thief Guildhall (Ilithi)|Guildhall]] here is managed by [[Saishla]]. |
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; [[Qi'Reshalia]] |
; [[Qi'Reshalia]] |
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:The criminal element of Qi'Reshalia is overseen by [[Dwillig]]. |
:The [[Thief Guildhall (Qi'Reshalia)|criminal element]] of Qi'Reshalia is overseen by [[Dwillig]]. |
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;[[Forfedhdar]] |
;[[Forfedhdar]] |
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:The Elven mistress [[Ivitha]] holds this province in an iron grip. |
:The Elven mistress [[Ivitha]] holds this [[Thief Guildhall (Forfedhdar)|province]] in an iron grip. |
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=== Skillset=== |
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A Thief's primary [[Guilds#Skill_Sets|skillset]] is {{catskill|Survival}}. {{Catskill|Weapon}} and {{catskill|Lore}} are secondary skillsets, with {{Catskill|Magic}} and {{Catskill|Armor}} as tertiaries. |
A Thief's primary [[Guilds#Skill_Sets|skillset]] is {{catskill|Survival}}. {{Catskill|Weapon}} and {{catskill|Lore}} are secondary skillsets, with {{Catskill|Magic}} and {{Catskill|Armor}} as tertiaries. |
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===Crafting Affiliation=== |
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According to the DragonRealms website, Thieves tend to be: |
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Guilded thieves receive two free technique slots in the Carving discipline of the [[Engineering skill]] and one free technique slot in the Poison discipline of the [[Alchemy skill]]. |
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See: [[Crafting]] |
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| [[:Category:Elf|Elven]] |
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|align="right"| 26% |
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| [[:Category:Human|Human]] |
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|align="right"| 20% |
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| [[:Category:Halfling|Halfling]] |
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|align="right"| 15% |
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| [[:Category:Prydaen|Prydaen]] |
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|align="right"| 11% |
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| [[:Category:S'Kra Mur|S'Kra Mur]] |
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|align="right"| 10% |
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==Guild Abilities== |
==Guild Abilities== |
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All thief abilities are considered [[Elanthipedia:Elanthipedia_Rules#Secrets_and_Spoiler_Policy|in-game secrets]]. |
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===Skill Bonusing System=== |
===Skill Bonusing System=== |
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====Urban Bonus==== |
====[[Urban Bonus]]==== |
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This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. [[Smirk command|<tt>SMIRK</tt>]] can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks. |
This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. [[Smirk command|<tt> SMIRK SELF</tt>]] can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks. Urban bonus cannot be negative, it varies from 0 (neutral) to positive. |
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====Reputation==== |
====Reputation==== |
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This is a reflection of how the guild currently views the member. Bringing heat down upon the guild by being caught breaking the law of the province will lower the reputation of the member causing the thief to be without the aid of the guild as a whole. A thief with a reputation at the lowest point will be punished when entering the guild by <b> |
This is a reflection of how the guild currently views the member. Bringing heat down upon the guild by being caught breaking the law of the province will lower the reputation of the member causing the thief to be without the aid of the guild as a whole. A thief with a reputation at the lowest point will be punished when entering the guild by <b>death</b>. Standing in the guild can be raised with donations of stolen goods into the appropriate bins, performing a {{com|task}} for an NPC associated with the Thief Guild and by not being wanted by the law of the province. |
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To check reputation find the wandering guild representative in the Crossing, {{com|ask}} them about {{tt|reputation}} and they will tell you for 100 copper Kronars. |
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====Confidence==== |
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This is the feeling a thief has for her own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to her, she will gain confidence in her skills overall. The thief can [[Smirk command|<tt>SMIRK</tt>]] to tell how confident in her skills she currently is. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for her, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks. |
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*Not yet completely implemented, right now only [[hiding skill|hiding]], [[backstab skill|backstab]], and [[stealing skill|stealing]] will modify a thief's confidence. Will be changed when fully implemented. |
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Example: |
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===Backstab=== |
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:"Well, here's what I've heard about you lately. |
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[[Backstab_command|<tt>BACKSTAB</tt>]]bing is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding and inserting a narrow blade into an important organ. This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. Backstabbing can only be performed using [[Light_Edged_skill|Light Edged]] or [[Medium_Edged_skill|Medium Edged]] weapons that weigh 30 [[stones]] or less and must be performed from hiding at [[melee]] distance. Backstabbing utilizes and teaches the [[Backstab skill]], a weapon skill, and the [[Hiding skill]] versus an opponents [[Perception skill]] and limited defenses. Only bipeds can be backstabbed, including these [[:Category:Back-Stabbable|Creatures]]. |
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: In the young snake's territory, he's personally told me how highly he regards your work. |
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: In the birds' territory, they're basically ambivalent. |
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: In the old serpent's territory, she doesn't have an opinion yet. |
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: In the pencil pusher's territory, he doesn't care, one way or the other. |
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: In the queen's territory, she hasn't taken notice of you yet. |
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: That's all I've heard, now git!" |
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====[[Confidence]]==== |
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This is the feeling a thief has for their own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to them, they will gain confidence in their skills overall. The thief can [[Smirk command|<tt>SMIRK SELF</tt>]](see SMIRK for full list of confidence messages) to tell how confident in their skills they currently are. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for them, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks. |
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Confidence can vary from positive to negative. |
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*Right now only [[stealth skill|stealth]], [[blindside skill|blindside]], and [[thievery skill|thievery]] will modify a thief's confidence. |
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*Starting [[Khri]] now checks confidence. It is possible to not be able to use some [[Khri]] with low [[confidence]]. |
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===[[Blindside]]=== |
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[[Blindside]] is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding with a high damage attack. |
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This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. It requires melee range, hiding, and a melee weapon. |
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===Sign Language=== |
===Sign Language=== |
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A secret language using slight hand gestures to communicate between Thieves. This ability is taught by the silent guildleader, Crow. At least one hand must be empty to perform [[sign_command|<tt>SIGN</tt>]]. Each sign creates a random chance that someone in the room will notice the signing, though they won't be able to interpret it. |
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A secret, thief only, language. It uses sleight of hand to communicate with other thieves. With enough perception, non-thieves may notice the hand motions. This skill is taught by the lovely assistant to the guild leader Crow |
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===Passages=== |
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Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town. In Shard there is a large interconnected passage system. In Riverhaven there is small passage system with 3 entry points. In Throne City a passage there allows access to the rooftop of the [[Museum of Imperial History]]. |
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===[[Thief Spoilers|Passages]]=== |
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===Contacts=== |
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Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town, but no central hub. Shard features a large, interconnected, passage system while Riverhaven has a system which combines a small hub and many not-connected bolt-holes. The only passage in Throne City access to the rooftop of the [[Museum of Imperial History]]. |
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The guild has [[contact_command|<tt>CONTACT</tt>]]s in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5, which can be doing work simultaneously. |
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===[[contact_command|Contacts]]=== |
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USAGE: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> [FIND|TELL] ([Message] When used with TELL.)</tt> |
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The guild has [[contact_command|Contact]]s in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5. Up to 5 may be used simultaneously. |
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: <tt>CONTACT GUILD</tt> while in Riverhaven for a hint to guild location. |
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: <tt>CONTACT FIX</tt> while holding the item in your RIGHT hand. |
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: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> DELIVER</tt> while holding the item in your RIGHT hand. |
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: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> DISTANT [<CITY NAME>|ALL] [FIND|TELL] <message></tt> |
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:: Valid cities are: |
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:: Crossings, Leth, Riverhaven, Langenfirth |
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:: Theren, Shard, Ratha, Aesry, Taisgath |
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:: Mer'Kresh, Throne City, Muspar'i, Hibarnhvidar |
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:: <tt>ALL</tt> will search every city, but at a substantial cost |
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: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> THUG [OPTION]</tt> |
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:: Valid options are: |
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:: <tt>THEFT</tt> (default) - Sends your thugs after a non-Thief who steals. |
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:: <tt>ITEM</tt> - Sends your thugs to collect Ambika items from non-Thieves. |
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:: <tt>GRAVEROB</tt> - Sends your thugs after any Thief grave robber. |
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===Lockpick Carving=== |
===[[Lockpick_carving|Lockpick Carving]]=== |
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Lockpick [[fix_command|repair]] and Lockpick [[Carve_command| |
Lockpick [[fix_command|repair]] and Lockpick [[Carve_command|carving]] are Thief-only abilities that can be attempted beginning at 12th Circle. Lockpick carving involves creating a lockpick by carving a keyblank with a knife. The greater the Lockpicking skill and agility, the better quality of lockpick. Read more in the [[Lockpick Carving]] article. |
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This is slated to become an ability all guilds can engage in, with the lore system rewrite. No current date is available. |
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===Khri=== |
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[[khri_command|<tt>KHRI</tt>]] is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to heightened awareness and dexterity. The Khri are taught by various guild leaders. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. |
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===[[:category:khri|Khri]]=== |
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[[:category:khri|Khri]] is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to surpassing normal body limitations. All guild leaders teach all Khri. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. Thieves acquire [[:Category:Magic#Slot_Progression|slots]] for purchasing abilities as a tertiary guild. |
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*[[ambush_command|<tt>AMBUSH]] STUN</tt>: Done from hiding, will attempt to give the opponent a nasty crack on the head that has the potential to knock them completely unconscious. Requires special equipment or a blunt instrument. |
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*<tt>AMBUSH SLASH</tt>: Done from hiding, will attempt to cut the back of the opponent's ankles in order to drop them to the ground in pain. Requires a sharp instrument and possibly a great deal of strength. |
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*<tt>AMBUSH SIGHT</tt>: Done from hiding, blinds and disorients your target, assuming you hit. If you're stealthy, you will vanish after the strike. |
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*<tt>AMBUSH SCREEN</tt>: A technique to surround oneself with dirt, blinding and disorienting nearby foes, as well as revealing any who may be trying to lurk near you. If you're stealthy, you will vanish after the attack. Can be done in and out of hiding. |
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*<tt>AMBUSH CLOUT</tt>: Done from hiding without a weapon, this attack will put a target to sleep temporarily. |
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Khri use [[Concentration]]; each one consumes a certain amount when the ability is started, and then will consume a smaller amount each time the ability pulses. Khri have a duration determined by skill, as well as a maximum duration. A thief's ability to maintain multiple khri is determine by his concentration and supernatural skill. |
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===Slip=== |
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|[[Slip_command|<tt>SLIP]] <nowiki><person> COIN <ear|nose|mouth|wound> <easy/hard></nowiki></tt>||[Sleight of hand magic] |
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|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <person> <amount> (<type> <name> OPTIONAL)</nowiki></tt>||[Silent giving of coins] |
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|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <right|left|item></nowiki></tt>||[Silent stowing of an item into your packs] |
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|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <item></nowiki></tt>||[Silent getting of an item from your packs]<br>- Addition 1: Works on WORN items.<br>- Addition 2: Works with items ON THE GROUND. |
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|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <person> <right|left|item> <pack|hand></nowiki></tt>||[Silent giving of items] |
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|<tt><nowiki>STALK <person|creature> (while unhidden)</nowiki></tt>||[Hide + Stalk of target] |
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|<tt><nowiki>SNEAK <direction> (while unhidden)</nowiki></tt>||[Hide + Sneak in direction] |
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|<tt><nowiki>SLIP HELP</nowiki></tt>||Lists known Slips |
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|<tt><nowiki>SLIP TEACH <person></nowiki></tt>||Teach slips to eligible people |
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Thieves have no ability to modify the concentration costs of abilities (unlike [[Mana]]-using classes) |
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===Voice Throw=== |
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Some Voice Throw abilities are learned from a guild leaders, others are taught by Bard player characters who also possess the Voice Throw abilities but with slightly different uses. |
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*Different directions. <tt>[[Throw_Voice|THROW VOICE]] OUT <message>.</tt> |
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*Objects you see lying around. <tt>THROW VOICE <item> <message>.</tt> |
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*Items in/on/behind/under item on the ground. <tt>THROW VOICE <item> in/on/behind/under <item> <message>.</tt> |
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*Items on critters. <tt>THROW VOICE <item> on <critter> <message>.</tt> |
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*At critters. <tt>THROW VOICE <critter> <message>.</tt> |
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Thieves get an additional Khri slot for being subscribers. |
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===Mark=== |
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Please see the [[Thief abilities]] for more detailed information, including descriptions of individual khri. |
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See [[Mark_command|<tt>MARK</tt>]] for full details. |
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===[[Thief_ambushes|Ambush Moves]]=== |
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==Important Skills== |
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Thieves have special guild-only ambush moves. These require a physical component, like dirt or a melee weapon, and usually require hiding and melee range. |
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==={{catskill|Survival}} Skills=== |
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Thieves need to train a minimum of 8 survival skills to advance consistently in the guild, with each 8 needing to be chosen from the list of 10 skills below. This type of requirement is known as a Soft Requirement, or General Requirement. When a guildleader tells you you do not lack anything specific but still need to train more, he is referring to something falling under this type of requirement. |
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Thief ambushes are taught by specific guild leaders, so a potential thief should be ready to travel. |
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Skills Eligible to Fill the Soft Requirements: |
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*[[Stealing skill|Stealing]] |
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*[[Lockpicking skill|Lockpicking]] |
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*[[Hiding skill|Hiding]] |
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*[[Stalking skill|Stalking]] |
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*[[Escaping skill|Escaping]] |
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*[[Disarm Traps skill|Disarm Traps]] |
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*[[Evasion skill|Evasion]] |
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*[[Perception skill|Perception]] |
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*[[Backstab skill|Backstab]] |
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*[[Climbing skill|Climbing]] |
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Ambushes require a khri slot to learn. |
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Thieves then have 4 skills with a hard requirement. These have a skill specific required amount to fill regardless of how or if they are in your "Top 8". |
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See [[ambush]] or [[Thief_ambushes|Thief ambushes]] |
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It is possible to always be in excess of the hard requirements simply by using skills with a hard requirement to satisfy some aspect the soft requirements. |
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===[[Slip]]=== |
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Skills Having A Hard Requirement: |
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[[Slip]] is a command thieves share with several other guilds, including [[Bards]], [[Necromancers]], and [[Rangers]]. Thieves have the widest variety of options, and learn them earlier. |
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*[[Stealing skill|Stealing]] |
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*[[Lockpicking skill|Lockpicking]] |
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*[[Hiding skill|Hiding]] |
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*[[Stalking skill|Stalking]] |
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===[[Ventriloquism|Voice Throw]]=== |
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Note: These hard requirements do however require hiding and stalking to eventually be more of something along the lines of in the top 4 soft requirement survivals, as the bottom 4 of your top 8 skills are required less of later in your career, and the hard requirements exceed that what is required of the lower 4 of the Top 8. However, most circle hungry thieves find this negligible, as even with evasion as number 1 and stealing as number 2 your typical thief will have hiding and stalking as 3 and 4, simply due to the ease they find in learning them in combat and the amount of time your typical thief spends there. |
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Thieves of sufficient skill and level can use [[Ventriloquism]] in several ways. This is an ability shared with Bards, and may only be learned from a member of that guild. |
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===[[Mark]]=== |
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Mark is a thief-only command which allows the thief to gauge the difficulty of stealing from another player, fighting an opponent, or shoplifting from a store. |
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See [[Mark]] for full details. |
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===Reduced Load While Hidden=== |
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With sufficient skill, Thieves do not incur the +1 second penalty that other guilds incur for loading ranged weapons while hidden. |
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==Important Skills== |
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==={{catskill|Survival}} Skills=== |
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Thieves need to train a minimum of 8 survival skills to advance consistently in the guild, with [[Stealth skill|Stealth]] and [[Thievery skill|Thievery]] skills as a Soft Requirement; meaning they can also count as Nth skills. |
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:Some survival skills Thieves might find important: |
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*[[Athletics skill|Athletics]] |
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*[[Backstab skill|Backstab]] |
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*[[Evasion skill|Evasion]] |
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*[[Locksmithing skill|Locksmithing]] |
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*[[Perception skill|Perception]] |
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*[[Stealth skill|Stealth]] |
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*[[Thievery skill|Thievery]] |
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Many (most? (all?!)) Thieves would recommend not using escaping to circle as they find it to be far harder and less combat friendly to train than the other survivals we have to choose from, especially later into one's career. |
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==={{catskill|Weapon}} Skills=== |
==={{catskill|Weapon}} Skills=== |
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Thieves need two weapons to advance in the guild |
Thieves need two weapons to advance in the guild. Most thieves would suggest one to be a [[Small Edged skill|Small Edged]] weapon user for employ in [[Backstab skill|backstabbing]], as well as general combat. |
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If not at first, by later on in a Thief's career they will probably want to train the [[Brawling skill|Brawling]] skill and be trained in the use of |
If not at first, by later on in a Thief's career they will probably want to train the [[Brawling skill|Brawling]] skill and be trained in the use of either [[Bow skill]] or [[Crossbow skill]] as well. |
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A Thief may also want to train [[Light Thrown skill|Light Thrown]] weapons if they wish to excel at throwing dirt in the face of their opponents. |
A Thief may also want to train [[Light Thrown skill|Light Thrown]] weapons if they wish to excel at throwing dirt in the face of their opponents. |
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==={{catskill|Lore}} Skills=== |
==={{catskill|Lore}} Skills=== |
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Three of the many {{catskill|lore}} skills are required for gaining circles as a thief. [[Tactics skill|Tactics]], [[Appraisal skill|Appraisal]] and [[Scholarship skill|Scholarship]] are excellent choices, as is one of the various crafting skills. |
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[[Mechanical Lore skill|Mechanical Lore]] is required as well as three other {{catskill|lore}} skills. [[Appraisal skill|Appraisal]] and [[Scholarship skill|Scholarship]] are excellent choices for filling the remaining picks, and despite its general lack of practical use (one besides circling with), one may find [[Vocals skill|Vocals]] to be an excellent choice as well. This is because one may hum a song while disarming boxes, and play in any sort of sordid weather without the risk of instrument damage any other instrument (besides the mouth) is prone too. |
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[[Percussions skill|Percussion]] has been suggested for years by Guildleaders, as it may someday be useful for abilities later in ones career. The skills in question appear to have not yet come to fruition. |
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==={{catskill|Armor}} Skills=== |
==={{catskill|Armor}} Skills=== |
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[[Light Armor skill|Leather Armor]] is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light [[Appraisal_skill#Armor_.26_Shield|stealth hindrance]]. One may consider Cloth Armor to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of lower absorption. |
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[[Shield Usage skill|Shield]] will be required up to a minimum of 10 [[Rank|ranks]], although many choose to train it past this level. A thief can get by with training in only a single armor type, although many thieves would not recommend this as training more armor nets more [[TDPs]]. |
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The armor for sale in [[Tembeg's Armory]] is good for new characters - it is very close to player crafted quality, at an affordable price. Most other store bought armor is not recommended, as it typically has very poor protection, very high hindrance, and is much heavier than the Tembeg sets or player crafted armor. |
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[[Leather Armor skill|Leather Armor]] is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light stealth hindrance. One may consider [[Cloth Armor skill|Cloth Armor]] to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of very, very low protection (with the exception of some old Gorbesh invasion robes that appraise like [[Heavy Plate skill|HP]] and are nigh unfindable/purchasable in modern day). |
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==={{catskill|Magic}} Skills=== |
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Many elder thieves and rangers alike have found themselves using tanned (player made) leather torso armor with chain armor on their hands and heads in modern times, due to chains better protection against critical stunning hits, and negligible hindrance because of their already high level of ranks in the Leather Armor skill, as well as for the benefit of more [[TDPs]]. For this hand and head protection Thieves typically find [[Light Chain skill|Light Chain]] the armor of choice, having stats very similar to, or in the case of some pieces of armor, the exact same stats as [[Heavy Chain skill|Heavy Chain]], with a lower stealth penalty. |
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Thieves use magic skills to power their supernatural abilities (i.e. [[Khri]]) in a manner similar to magic classes. This means they require ranks in the [[Augmentation]], [[Debilitation]], [[Primary Magic|Inner Magic]], [[Utility]], and [[Warding]] skills. The skillset is renamed for thieves, as supernatural instead of magic, though magic is an alias. |
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Thieves cannot learn [[Targeted Magic]] or [[Attunement]] skill, either through guild abilities or classes. If a thief joins a class on either, he will join as though he used the 'listen observe' command, and will gain no ranks in the magic skill (instead, all of the experience is awarded to scholarship). This is done so thieves can pretend to be magic users. |
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The best store bought full body armor for a beginning Thief is likely the [[Demiciil%27s_Armory|race size-specific set sold in Shard]], which run for a little under 6 plat dokora, and have very good protection with moderate hindrance. Despite this many choose to go with the more hindering sets [[The_Raven's_Mask|sold on Ratha]] or [[Seli's_Armory|in Riverhaven]], due to them being much, much cheaper. [[Brigetta's_Tanned_Goods|Wolf Clan]] leathers are not recommended due to their high weight, which will effect newer player's [[encumbrance]] more. Note that the hindrance mentioned here is the evasion hindering type, as all leathers now have the exact same amount of stealth hindrance regardless of protection and combat hindrance (combat hindrance being the type that shows up when you APPRAISE a piece of armor). |
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Thieves can learn [[Arcana skill|arcana skill]] from [[Item:Achaedi crystal|Achaedi crystals]] and [[Item:Sanowret crystal|sanowret crystals]]. They cannot harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth (although faux cambrinth exists to support disguises) or perceive mana. Thieves gain no inherent benefit or penalty from learning arcana, though it can reduce the difficulty and cost of activating some magical devices. |
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==={{catskill|Magic}} Skills=== |
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Thieves do not have any abilities that teach any of what are considered the core magical skills. They currently may not harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth, or perceive the mana in a room. Thieves have been banned from employing runestones, although in the past such practices were allowable. They may however learn the [[Magical Devices skill]] by itemic means that do not require them to harness mana. Items a Thief may learn the [[Magical Devices skill]] from include a fan sold in the [[Fenwyrthie's_Curio_Shop|Crossing's Estate Holder Shop]] ([[Zephyr]] spell), ilmenite-tipped wands ([[Lightning Bolt]] spell) sold down in [[Sierack's_Reagents|Shard]], azurite Thief charms ([[Shadows]] spell) and indakar-eyed cat charms ([[Protection from Evil]] spell) from a festival merchant, and the legendary [[Item:Achaedi crystal|Achaedi Crystal]]. |
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Thieves may use scholarship to read spell scrolls to identify them, but cannot invoke or learn them. |
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Thieves cannot focus on runestones to identify them. Thieves cannot activate runestones. |
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==Guild History== |
==Guild History== |
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[[Kalag Ka'Hurst]] founded the Zoluren Thieves Guild around the start of the [[Elanthian_Timeline|Elanthian Calendar]], just as the [[Dragon Priest]] war was ending. All guild leaders following have taken the name "[[Kalag]]" as their own, until the most recent leader, [[Varsyth]], who has stated he will not follow in that tradition. Varsyth has since adopted the name [[Kalag the Sly]]. |
[[Kalag Ka'Hurst]] founded the Zoluren Thieves Guild around the start of the [[Elanthian_Timeline|Elanthian Calendar]], just as the [[Dragon Priest (Cult)|Dragon Priest]] war was ending. All guild leaders following have taken the name "[[Kalag]]" as their own, until the most recent leader, [[Varsyth]], who has stated he will not follow in that tradition. Varsyth has since adopted the name [[Kalag the Sly]]. |
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Kalag's tale and therefore the founding of the guild is described in two books residing within the Zoluren Thieves Guild library: |
Kalag's tale and therefore the founding of the guild is described in two books residing within the Zoluren Thieves Guild library: |
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*[[Ambika]] |
*[[Ambika]] |
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*The gnome tinkerer ([[Freiden]]?) who sells imitation magical devices |
*The gnome tinkerer ([[Freiden]]?) who sells imitation magical devices |
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*King [[Fade]] |
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==Circle Requirements== |
==Circle Requirements== |
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{|class="wikitable sortable" |
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Thieves have a minimum requirement in the following "thievery" skills: [[Stealing]], [[Hiding]], [[Lockpicking]] and [[Stalking]]. They also have a larger general survival requirement. |
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! Skillset |
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! Skill |
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! style="text-align: right;" | 1-10 |
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! style="text-align: right;" | 11-30 |
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! style="text-align: right;" | 31-70 |
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! style="text-align: right;" | 71-100 |
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! style="text-align: right;" | 101-150 |
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! style="text-align: right;" | 150+ |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | {{Skill|Thievery|Thievery}} |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 10 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | {{Skill|Stealth|Stealth}} |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 10 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1st Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 6 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 15 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2nd Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 6 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 15 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3rd Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 6 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 15 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 6 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 15 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 13 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 6th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 13 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 7th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 13 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 8th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 8 |
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| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | weapons |
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| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | {{Skill|Parry Ability|Parry Ability}} |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 8 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | weapons |
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| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | 1st Weapon |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 5 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 13 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | weapons |
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| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | 2nd Weapon |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 10 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | lore |
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| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | 1st Lore |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 10 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | lore |
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| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | 2nd Lore |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 8 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | lore |
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| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | 3rd Lore |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 8 |
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| style="background-color:#f2f2ff;" | armor |
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| style="background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 1st Armor |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 8 |
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| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | magic |
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| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | {{Skill|Inner Magic|Inner Magic}} |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 10 |
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| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | magic |
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| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | 1st Magic |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 1 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 3 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 10 |
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| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | magic |
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| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2nd Magic |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 0 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 0 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 4 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 8 |
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[[Thievery_skill|Thievery]] and [[Stealth]] are soft requirements (can be used toward Nth survival requirements).<br/> |
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" |
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===Cumulative=== |
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{|class="wikitable sortable" |
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!Skillset!!Skill!!10!!30!!70!!100!!150!!200 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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! Circle !! Min Thievery !! 1st-2nd Surv. !! 3rd-4th Surv. !! 5th-6th Surv. !! 7th-8th Surv. !! 1st Weap. !! 2nd Weap. !! 3rd Weap. !! Parry Ability !! Multi Opp. !! Mech Lore !! 1st Lore !! 2nd-3rd Lore !! 1st Armor !! Shield Use |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | {{Skill|Thievery|Thievery}} |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 20 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 80 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 200 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 320 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 520 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1020 |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| 1-10 || 2 || 4 || 3 || 3 || 2 || 2 || || || 1 || 1 || 2 || 1 || 1 || 2 || 1 |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | {{Skill|Stealth|Stealth}} |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 20 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 60 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 180 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 270 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 470 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 970 |
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|- |
|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| 11-30 || 2 || 4 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 2 || || 1 || 1 || 2 || 2 || 1 || 2 || |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1st Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 40 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 120 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 320 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 470 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 770 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1520 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| 31-70 || 3 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 3 || 3 || 1 || 2 || |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 2nd Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 40 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 120 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 280 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 430 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 730 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1480 |
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|- |
|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| 71-100 || 3 || 5 || 5 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 3 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 4 || 3 || 2 || 2 || |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 3rd Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 30 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 110 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 270 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 420 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 720 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1470 |
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|- |
|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| 101+ || 3 || 6 || 6 || 5 || 5 || 4 || 4 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 5 || 3 || 2 || 3 || |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 4th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 30 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 110 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 270 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 420 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 720 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1470 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 5th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 30 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 110 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 240 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 390 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 640 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1290 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 6th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 20 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 80 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 200 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 360 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 610 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1260 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 7th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 20 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 80 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 130 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 320 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 570 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 1220 |
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|- |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | survival |
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| style="background-color:#f2fff2;" | 8th Survival |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 10 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 50 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 130 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 220 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 370 |
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| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2fff2;" | 770 |
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|- |
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| style="background: #F2FFF2;" |'''survival''' |
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| style="background: #F2FFF2;" |'''Total Survival''' |
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| style="text-align: right; background: #F2FFF2;" |'''220''' |
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| style="text-align: right; background: #F2FFF2;" |'''780''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2FFF2;" |'''1,980''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2FFF2;" |'''3,030''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2FFF2;" |'''5,130''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2FFF2;" |'''10,480 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | weapons |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | {{Skill|Parry Ability|Parry Ability}} |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 50 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 130 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 220 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 370 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 770 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | weapons |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | 1st Weapon |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 30 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 90 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 250 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 370 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 620 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 1270 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | weapons |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2f2;" | 2nd Weapon |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 50 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 170 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 260 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 460 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2f2;" | 960 |
|||
|- |
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| style="background-color: #fff2f2;" |'''weapons''' |
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| style="background-color: #fff2f2;" |'''Total Weapons''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #fff2f2;" |'''40''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #fff2f2;" |'''140''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #fff2f2;" |'''420''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #fff2f2;" |'''630''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #fff2f2;" |'''1,080''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #fff2f2;" |'''2,230 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | lore |
|||
| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | 1st Lore |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 50 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 170 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 260 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 460 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 960 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | lore |
|||
| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | 2nd Lore |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 50 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 130 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 220 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 370 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 770 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | lore |
|||
| style="background-color:#fffff2;" | 3rd Lore |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 30 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 110 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 170 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 320 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fffff2;" | 720 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background: #FFFFF2;" |'''lore''' |
|||
| style="background: #FFFFF2;" |'''Total Lore''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFFFF2;" |'''30''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFFFF2;" |'''130''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFFFF2;" |'''410''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFFFF2;" |'''650''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFFFF2;" |'''1,150''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFFFF2;" |'''2,450 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#f2f2ff;" | armor |
|||
| style="background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 1st Armor |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 20 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 60 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 140 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 230 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 380 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#f2f2ff;" | 780 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background: #F2F2FF;" |'''armor''' |
|||
| style="background: #F2F2FF;" |'''Total Armor''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2F2FF;" |'''20''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2F2FF;" |'''60''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2F2FF;" |'''140''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2F2FF;" |'''230''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2F2FF;" |'''380''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #F2F2FF;" |'''780 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | magic |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | {{Skill|Inner Magic|Inner Magic}} |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 50 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 170 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 260 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 460 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 960 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | magic |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | 1st Magic |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 10 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 50 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 130 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 220 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 370 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 870 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | magic |
|||
| style="background-color:#fff2ff;" | 2nd Magic |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 0 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 0 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 80 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 130 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 340 |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background-color:#fff2ff;" | 740 |
|||
|- |
|||
| style="background: #FFF2FF;" |'''magic''' |
|||
| style="background: #FFF2FF;" |'''Total Magic''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFF2FF;" |'''10''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFF2FF;" |'''50''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFF2FF;" |'''210''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFF2FF;" |'''360''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFF2FF;" |'''710''' |
|||
| style="text-align: right; background: #FFF2FF;" |'''1,610 |
|||
|- |
|||
|'''all'''||'''Total'''||'''320'''||'''1,160'''||'''3,160'''||'''4,900'''||'''8,450'''||'''17,550 |
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* Soft Requirements are not counted towards cumulative totals. |
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==Miscellaneous Information== |
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* '''Guild crest:''' A blank charger shrouded by a concealing veil. |
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*[[Thief Titles]] |
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Latest revision as of 22:09, 19 December 2022
Note -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see Thief (Disambiguation).
- Returning players may want to read the page for Returning Players, and Thief Newbie Help Guide before continuing.
Thief Guild | |
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Primary Skillset: | Survival |
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Secondary Skillsets: | Weapon, Lore |
Tertiary Skillsets: | Armor, Magic |
Special Abilities: | Khri, Blindside, Sign, Passages, Voice throw, Slip, Contact, Lockpick carving, Poison Resistance, Mark |
Mana Type: | None |
Barbarian - Bard - Cleric - Commoner - Empath - Moon Mage Necromancer - Paladin - Ranger - Thief - Trader - Warrior Mage |
Beyond skulking in shadows and relieving the careless of their burden of coin, Thieves' superior stealth, hyper-aware senses, and familiarity with locks and traps make them valuable additions to any adventuring party.
A life in the shadows is like no other -- never above the law, but always one step in front of it.
Official Information
Information courtesy of Dragonrealms Website.
Guild Hall Locations
That is a secret -- think of gaining entry to the guild as your first test.
- Zoluren
- The young snake Kalag the sly has brought order to the Guild.
- Therengia
- Crow and Swan watch over their Den.
- Kingpin Wulras runs the Musparan crime syndicate.
- Ilithi
- The Guildhall here is managed by Saishla.
- Qi'Reshalia
- The criminal element of Qi'Reshalia is overseen by Dwillig.
- Forfedhdar
- The Elven mistress Ivitha holds this province in an iron grip.
Skillset
A Thief's primary skillset is Survival. Weapon and Lore are secondary skillsets, with Magic and Armor as tertiaries.
Crafting Affiliation
Guilded thieves receive two free technique slots in the Carving discipline of the Engineering skill and one free technique slot in the Poison discipline of the Alchemy skill.
See: Crafting
Guild Abilities
All thief abilities are considered in-game secrets.
Skill Bonusing System
Urban Bonus
This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. SMIRK SELF can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks. Urban bonus cannot be negative, it varies from 0 (neutral) to positive.
Reputation
This is a reflection of how the guild currently views the member. Bringing heat down upon the guild by being caught breaking the law of the province will lower the reputation of the member causing the thief to be without the aid of the guild as a whole. A thief with a reputation at the lowest point will be punished when entering the guild by death. Standing in the guild can be raised with donations of stolen goods into the appropriate bins, performing a TASK for an NPC associated with the Thief Guild and by not being wanted by the law of the province.
To check reputation find the wandering guild representative in the Crossing, ASK them about REPUTATION and they will tell you for 100 copper Kronars.
Example:
- "Well, here's what I've heard about you lately.
- In the young snake's territory, he's personally told me how highly he regards your work.
- In the birds' territory, they're basically ambivalent.
- In the old serpent's territory, she doesn't have an opinion yet.
- In the pencil pusher's territory, he doesn't care, one way or the other.
- In the queen's territory, she hasn't taken notice of you yet.
- That's all I've heard, now git!"
Confidence
This is the feeling a thief has for their own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to them, they will gain confidence in their skills overall. The thief can SMIRK SELF(see SMIRK for full list of confidence messages) to tell how confident in their skills they currently are. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for them, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks.
Confidence can vary from positive to negative.
- Starting Khri now checks confidence. It is possible to not be able to use some Khri with low confidence.
Blindside
Blindside is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding with a high damage attack.
This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. It requires melee range, hiding, and a melee weapon.
Sign Language
A secret, thief only, language. It uses sleight of hand to communicate with other thieves. With enough perception, non-thieves may notice the hand motions. This skill is taught by the lovely assistant to the guild leader Crow
Passages
Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town, but no central hub. Shard features a large, interconnected, passage system while Riverhaven has a system which combines a small hub and many not-connected bolt-holes. The only passage in Throne City access to the rooftop of the Museum of Imperial History.
Contacts
The guild has Contacts in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5. Up to 5 may be used simultaneously.
Lockpick Carving
Lockpick repair and Lockpick carving are Thief-only abilities that can be attempted beginning at 12th Circle. Lockpick carving involves creating a lockpick by carving a keyblank with a knife. The greater the Lockpicking skill and agility, the better quality of lockpick. Read more in the Lockpick Carving article.
This is slated to become an ability all guilds can engage in, with the lore system rewrite. No current date is available.
Khri
Khri is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to surpassing normal body limitations. All guild leaders teach all Khri. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. Thieves acquire slots for purchasing abilities as a tertiary guild.
Khri use Concentration; each one consumes a certain amount when the ability is started, and then will consume a smaller amount each time the ability pulses. Khri have a duration determined by skill, as well as a maximum duration. A thief's ability to maintain multiple khri is determine by his concentration and supernatural skill.
Thieves have no ability to modify the concentration costs of abilities (unlike Mana-using classes)
Thieves get an additional Khri slot for being subscribers.
Please see the Thief abilities for more detailed information, including descriptions of individual khri.
Ambush Moves
Thieves have special guild-only ambush moves. These require a physical component, like dirt or a melee weapon, and usually require hiding and melee range.
Thief ambushes are taught by specific guild leaders, so a potential thief should be ready to travel.
Ambushes require a khri slot to learn.
See ambush or Thief ambushes
Slip
Slip is a command thieves share with several other guilds, including Bards, Necromancers, and Rangers. Thieves have the widest variety of options, and learn them earlier.
Voice Throw
Thieves of sufficient skill and level can use Ventriloquism in several ways. This is an ability shared with Bards, and may only be learned from a member of that guild.
Mark
Mark is a thief-only command which allows the thief to gauge the difficulty of stealing from another player, fighting an opponent, or shoplifting from a store.
See Mark for full details.
Reduced Load While Hidden
With sufficient skill, Thieves do not incur the +1 second penalty that other guilds incur for loading ranged weapons while hidden.
Important Skills
Survival Skills
Thieves need to train a minimum of 8 survival skills to advance consistently in the guild, with Stealth and Thievery skills as a Soft Requirement; meaning they can also count as Nth skills.
- Some survival skills Thieves might find important:
Weapon Skills
Thieves need two weapons to advance in the guild. Most thieves would suggest one to be a Small Edged weapon user for employ in backstabbing, as well as general combat.
If not at first, by later on in a Thief's career they will probably want to train the Brawling skill and be trained in the use of either Bow skill or Crossbow skill as well.
A Thief may also want to train Light Thrown weapons if they wish to excel at throwing dirt in the face of their opponents.
Lore Skills
Three of the many lore skills are required for gaining circles as a thief. Tactics, Appraisal and Scholarship are excellent choices, as is one of the various crafting skills.
Armor Skills
Leather Armor is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light stealth hindrance. One may consider Cloth Armor to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of lower absorption.
The armor for sale in Tembeg's Armory is good for new characters - it is very close to player crafted quality, at an affordable price. Most other store bought armor is not recommended, as it typically has very poor protection, very high hindrance, and is much heavier than the Tembeg sets or player crafted armor.
Magic Skills
Thieves use magic skills to power their supernatural abilities (i.e. Khri) in a manner similar to magic classes. This means they require ranks in the Augmentation, Debilitation, Inner Magic, Utility, and Warding skills. The skillset is renamed for thieves, as supernatural instead of magic, though magic is an alias.
Thieves cannot learn Targeted Magic or Attunement skill, either through guild abilities or classes. If a thief joins a class on either, he will join as though he used the 'listen observe' command, and will gain no ranks in the magic skill (instead, all of the experience is awarded to scholarship). This is done so thieves can pretend to be magic users.
Thieves can learn arcana skill from Achaedi crystals and sanowret crystals. They cannot harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth (although faux cambrinth exists to support disguises) or perceive mana. Thieves gain no inherent benefit or penalty from learning arcana, though it can reduce the difficulty and cost of activating some magical devices.
Thieves may use scholarship to read spell scrolls to identify them, but cannot invoke or learn them.
Thieves cannot focus on runestones to identify them. Thieves cannot activate runestones.
Guild History
Kalag Ka'Hurst founded the Zoluren Thieves Guild around the start of the Elanthian Calendar, just as the Dragon Priest war was ending. All guild leaders following have taken the name "Kalag" as their own, until the most recent leader, Varsyth, who has stated he will not follow in that tradition. Varsyth has since adopted the name Kalag the Sly.
Kalag's tale and therefore the founding of the guild is described in two books residing within the Zoluren Thieves Guild library:
The memoirs tell of how Kalag first came to River Crossing, fleeing his hometown which had been beset by famine. Kalag came across an old man being attacked in the streets and helped fight with the old man. After the encounter Kalag learned the man was a well-known locksmith named Lyanothe, who then offered to teach Kalag many skills in return for Kalag's work as a runner and business partner.
One day their hideout was discovered and Kalag proposed they move to the sewers, for its easy access to anywhere in the city and its superior defensibility from foes. Kalag and Lyanothe became well known and opened their home to locksmithing students. This band of students began cross-training each other in skills that collectively made them qualified thieves. Kalag proposed they form a Thieves Guild and bring in other members from around the town that were engaged in criminal enterprises.
Kalag planned to have the guild recognized by the city council, but then the Dragon Priest army came to town. The Thieves Guild united against the army and their cunning helped defeat the Dragon Priests. Their actions and some support from the shrewd Trader guildleader earned them official acknowledgment by the city. And thus the Zoluren Thieves Guild was formed.
Thief Council
The governing body of all Thieves Guilds in the Five Provinces. Little is known.
Major Thief Events
- Inquisitor Anamir's discovery of the Zoluren and Therengia Thief guild halls.
- Ishtvan's attempt to violently overthrow Kalag and install Ladoc as new Zoluren Thief Guild leader and the deal made to train Ishtvan's men in the Crossing's sewers.
- The Thief Guild Council suspects Kalag the Black's loyalty to the Guild.
- Zoluren General Zukir's destruction of the Zoluren Thief guild and Kalag the Black's subsequent death.
- Varsyth, later known as Kalag the Sly appointed new Zoluren Thief Guild leader.
Thief Merchants
Circle Requirements
Skillset | Skill | 1-10 | 11-30 | 31-70 | 71-100 | 101-150 | 150+ |
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survival | Thievery | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 10 |
survival | Stealth | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 10 |
survival | 1st Survival | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 15 |
survival | 2nd Survival | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 15 |
survival | 3rd Survival | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 15 |
survival | 4th Survival | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 15 |
survival | 5th Survival | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 13 |
survival | 6th Survival | 2 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 13 |
survival | 7th Survival | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 13 |
survival | 8th Survival | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 8 |
weapons | Parry Ability | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 8 |
weapons | 1st Weapon | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 13 |
weapons | 2nd Weapon | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 10 |
lore | 1st Lore | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 10 |
lore | 2nd Lore | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 8 |
lore | 3rd Lore | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 8 |
armor | 1st Armor | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 8 |
magic | Inner Magic | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 10 |
magic | 1st Magic | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 10 |
magic | 2nd Magic | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 8 |
Thievery and Stealth are soft requirements (can be used toward Nth survival requirements).
Cumulative
Skillset | Skill | 10 | 30 | 70 | 100 | 150 | 200 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
survival | Thievery | 20 | 80 | 200 | 320 | 520 | 1020 |
survival | Stealth | 20 | 60 | 180 | 270 | 470 | 970 |
survival | 1st Survival | 40 | 120 | 320 | 470 | 770 | 1520 |
survival | 2nd Survival | 40 | 120 | 280 | 430 | 730 | 1480 |
survival | 3rd Survival | 30 | 110 | 270 | 420 | 720 | 1470 |
survival | 4th Survival | 30 | 110 | 270 | 420 | 720 | 1470 |
survival | 5th Survival | 30 | 110 | 240 | 390 | 640 | 1290 |
survival | 6th Survival | 20 | 80 | 200 | 360 | 610 | 1260 |
survival | 7th Survival | 20 | 80 | 130 | 320 | 570 | 1220 |
survival | 8th Survival | 10 | 50 | 130 | 220 | 370 | 770 |
survival | Total Survival | 220 | 780 | 1,980 | 3,030 | 5,130 | 10,480 |
weapons | Parry Ability | 10 | 50 | 130 | 220 | 370 | 770 |
weapons | 1st Weapon | 30 | 90 | 250 | 370 | 620 | 1270 |
weapons | 2nd Weapon | 10 | 50 | 170 | 260 | 460 | 960 |
weapons | Total Weapons | 40 | 140 | 420 | 630 | 1,080 | 2,230 |
lore | 1st Lore | 10 | 50 | 170 | 260 | 460 | 960 |
lore | 2nd Lore | 10 | 50 | 130 | 220 | 370 | 770 |
lore | 3rd Lore | 10 | 30 | 110 | 170 | 320 | 720 |
lore | Total Lore | 30 | 130 | 410 | 650 | 1,150 | 2,450 |
armor | 1st Armor | 20 | 60 | 140 | 230 | 380 | 780 |
armor | Total Armor | 20 | 60 | 140 | 230 | 380 | 780 |
magic | Inner Magic | 10 | 50 | 170 | 260 | 460 | 960 |
magic | 1st Magic | 10 | 50 | 130 | 220 | 370 | 870 |
magic | 2nd Magic | 0 | 0 | 80 | 130 | 340 | 740 |
magic | Total Magic | 10 | 50 | 210 | 360 | 710 | 1,610 |
all | Total | 320 | 1,160 | 3,160 | 4,900 | 8,450 | 17,550 |
- Soft Requirements are not counted towards cumulative totals.
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