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Is there a reason you removed the {{{notes}}} variable from the template? Legeres was asking about this on the [[Form:Item]] talk page.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 09:40, 3 June 2008 (CDT) |
Is there a reason you removed the {{{notes}}} variable from the template? Legeres was asking about this on the [[Form:Item]] talk page.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 09:40, 3 June 2008 (CDT) |
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:Because it was causing some spacing issues and it occurred to me that that should be handled in the main body of the article. IMO templates should handle COMMON conditions, and notes don't really fall under that. Otherwise I'll be forced to code up fields for eye worn thorns that spit unicorns.... -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 14: |
:Because it was causing some spacing issues and it occurred to me that that should be handled in the main body of the article. IMO templates should handle COMMON conditions, and notes don't really fall under that. Otherwise I'll be forced to code up fields for eye worn thorns that spit unicorns.... -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 14:06, 3 June 2008 (CDT) |
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::okay did you want to throw in a field for items that have words on them or would you rather i just put those in with the look?--[[User:Legeres|Legeres]] 23:35, 3 June 2008 (CDT) |
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:::I've just been putting them in italics in the look. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:53, 4 June 2008 (CDT) |
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::::Alright then. How about I include the "free text" field in the item form (it's not in the template, just extra text in the article. It's totally optional and doesn't use the template at all.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 08:49, 4 June 2008 (CDT) |
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:::::Whatever ya like, I'm just tired of seeing the notes section "abused" for a variety of stuff. :P -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 13:00, 4 June 2008 (CDT) |
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== Coin field == |
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I've added this field so we can remove it from the COST field. Why? Because theoretically, some day we may want to make this searchable as a less than/more than field and any text strings will mess this up. I will be hand converting all existing items to this new format in the coming days. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 15:41, 7 June 2008 (CDT) |
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== Food/Drink == |
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Any plans on adding a spot to enter the number of bites/sips for food and drink? I looked through ItemProperties but don't know how to add that in.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 11:46, 15 June 2008 (CDT) |
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:Will do.-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 15:06, 17 June 2008 (CDT) |
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== Magical items == |
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is the "|magic=" field used anymore? The usage table doesn't list it, but it's in the list of fields beneath. Should it be removed from the later section, or added to the table?<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 12:03, 21 July 2008 (CDT) |
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:Eh, good spot. I removed it because I integrated it automatically into the logic if things like cambrinth, etc. came up. I left it in there for backwards compatability but I seem to have forgotten to remove it from the list. So zap it out of existance! -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 17:28, 22 July 2008 (CDT) |
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== Guild type == |
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Is "type=<guild>" and "type=<guild> tool" still working, or should the documentation be changed to "type=<guild> style"? I just tried to use the first two but neither worked, although I may have just noobed up the usage.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 14:02, 30 July 2008 (CDT) |
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:<cough><cough> Err, just guild style is working. Sorry about that. Lack of documentation is probably my worst quality.....-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:35, 30 July 2008 (CDT) |
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== Wow, that was broken == |
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After nudging from [[User:Mozzik|Mozzik]], I went back to check why one of his items refused to be not incomplete and discovered that when I'd written the incomplete handling, I made a HUGE blunder that pretty much made it impossible for any item to show up as complete. Wow. It's now fixed. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:36, 26 September 2008 (CDT) |
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== wearloc display == |
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I've noticed as I've been adding and tweaking items from the recent Festival that the wearloc of an item shows up in special properties, but only under certain conditions. If the only type designated is "clothing" or "jewelry" (and probably others that aren't as crucial) the Special Properties box shows "None", but if a type is used in addition that causes anything to be listed as a special property, the wearloc is included as well. |
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For worn items, it would be nice to have the wearloc to always show up as standard information on the item's page. Any hope of getting the item form coding changed to allow this? |
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--[[User:Talarien|Talarien]] 06:48, 7 December 2008 (PST) |
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== Dimensions == |
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Any chance of changing the order to length, height, width? That's the order they show up when "measure" is used in game. |
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Also, you've misspelled dimension.--[[User:Antendren|Antendren]] 16:47, 18 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:Oh, turns out the order is l,w,h when you measure with a yardstick. Weird.--[[User:Antendren|Antendren]] 20:27, 18 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== Discussion links for this template are broken == |
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The Discussion link on any page based on the Item template page links to "<item name>" instead of "Item_talk:<item name>". The result is pages such as [[Dusty_tapestry_cloak_with_a_compass_clasp]] getting created, when it was intended to be the talk page for [[Item:Dusty_tapestry_cloak_with_a_compass_clasp]]. - [[Padhg]] <sup>([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])</sup> 22:23 4 December 2015 (UTC) |
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== additional item types == |
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While "cambrinth" has been an Item Type for awhile, I just noticed that "chakrel" has been added as well. Would it make sense to then create a "soulstone" type? If yes, then I'm not sure how far down the magical stone/metals list it would make sense to add, with "anloral", "gaethzen", all the various runestone materials, etc. --[[Kythryn]] 03:16, 3 November 2017 (CDT) |
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== Adding info for potency/infuser == |
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I would like to expand on adding types, if at all possible. Potency crystals can be used/how many and infuser stones if adds charges or resets cooldown. Can probably expand to the other templates as well. -- [[Thires]] 14:29, 2/23/2018 (EST) |
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== forcing interior dimensions to show == |
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I'm hoping one of the moderators more comfortable with the templates could make a tweak, although I may give it a try eventually. In one of the recent changes, unless an ITEM is marked as either a ''container'' Item Type or has been flagged with the ''pockets'' Property, even if there is information available for the interior dimensions & weight capacity, it won't show up on the populated page. Could we update this template so that even if one of those 2 flags isn't there, if there '''IS''' information in the ''ilsize'', ''ihsize'', ''iwsize'' & ''csize'' fields, it will populate on the wiki page anyhow? Maybe have it also include a ''missing'' note for needing clarification on a container or pocketed clothing? [[Kythryn]] 02:22, 15 November 2022 (CST) |
Latest revision as of 02:22, 15 November 2022
archived discussion
See Template Talk:Item/Old and Template Talk:Item/new for earlier discussions about this template.
Nice job, Caraamon, unfortunately my time to contribute to the wiki has been almost non-existent this year, thanks for picking up the torch on this ;)
I changed the redirect here since redirects on talk pages make it very confusing when you want to flip back and forth between the article and the talk, or at least it makes me very confused ;) --Farman 10:24, 19 April 2008 (CDT)
Notes
Is there a reason you removed the {{{notes}}} variable from the template? Legeres was asking about this on the Form:Item talk page.--Naeya (talk) 09:40, 3 June 2008 (CDT)
- Because it was causing some spacing issues and it occurred to me that that should be handled in the main body of the article. IMO templates should handle COMMON conditions, and notes don't really fall under that. Otherwise I'll be forced to code up fields for eye worn thorns that spit unicorns.... -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 14:06, 3 June 2008 (CDT)
- okay did you want to throw in a field for items that have words on them or would you rather i just put those in with the look?--Legeres 23:35, 3 June 2008 (CDT)
- I've just been putting them in italics in the look. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 02:53, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
- Alright then. How about I include the "free text" field in the item form (it's not in the template, just extra text in the article. It's totally optional and doesn't use the template at all.--Naeya (talk) 08:49, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
- Whatever ya like, I'm just tired of seeing the notes section "abused" for a variety of stuff. :P -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 13:00, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
- Alright then. How about I include the "free text" field in the item form (it's not in the template, just extra text in the article. It's totally optional and doesn't use the template at all.--Naeya (talk) 08:49, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
- I've just been putting them in italics in the look. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 02:53, 4 June 2008 (CDT)
- okay did you want to throw in a field for items that have words on them or would you rather i just put those in with the look?--Legeres 23:35, 3 June 2008 (CDT)
Coin field
I've added this field so we can remove it from the COST field. Why? Because theoretically, some day we may want to make this searchable as a less than/more than field and any text strings will mess this up. I will be hand converting all existing items to this new format in the coming days. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 15:41, 7 June 2008 (CDT)
Food/Drink
Any plans on adding a spot to enter the number of bites/sips for food and drink? I looked through ItemProperties but don't know how to add that in.
-Glimmereyes 11:46, 15 June 2008 (CDT)
- Will do.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 15:06, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
Magical items
is the "|magic=" field used anymore? The usage table doesn't list it, but it's in the list of fields beneath. Should it be removed from the later section, or added to the table?
-Glimmereyes 12:03, 21 July 2008 (CDT)
- Eh, good spot. I removed it because I integrated it automatically into the logic if things like cambrinth, etc. came up. I left it in there for backwards compatability but I seem to have forgotten to remove it from the list. So zap it out of existance! -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 17:28, 22 July 2008 (CDT)
Guild type
Is "type=<guild>" and "type=<guild> tool" still working, or should the documentation be changed to "type=<guild> style"? I just tried to use the first two but neither worked, although I may have just noobed up the usage.
-Glimmereyes 14:02, 30 July 2008 (CDT)
- <cough><cough> Err, just guild style is working. Sorry about that. Lack of documentation is probably my worst quality.....-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 19:35, 30 July 2008 (CDT)
Wow, that was broken
After nudging from Mozzik, I went back to check why one of his items refused to be not incomplete and discovered that when I'd written the incomplete handling, I made a HUGE blunder that pretty much made it impossible for any item to show up as complete. Wow. It's now fixed. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 00:36, 26 September 2008 (CDT)
wearloc display
I've noticed as I've been adding and tweaking items from the recent Festival that the wearloc of an item shows up in special properties, but only under certain conditions. If the only type designated is "clothing" or "jewelry" (and probably others that aren't as crucial) the Special Properties box shows "None", but if a type is used in addition that causes anything to be listed as a special property, the wearloc is included as well.
For worn items, it would be nice to have the wearloc to always show up as standard information on the item's page. Any hope of getting the item form coding changed to allow this?
--Talarien 06:48, 7 December 2008 (PST)
Dimensions
Any chance of changing the order to length, height, width? That's the order they show up when "measure" is used in game.
Also, you've misspelled dimension.--Antendren 16:47, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, turns out the order is l,w,h when you measure with a yardstick. Weird.--Antendren 20:27, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Discussion links for this template are broken
The Discussion link on any page based on the Item template page links to "<item name>" instead of "Item_talk:<item name>". The result is pages such as Dusty_tapestry_cloak_with_a_compass_clasp getting created, when it was intended to be the talk page for Item:Dusty_tapestry_cloak_with_a_compass_clasp. - Padhg (talk) 22:23 4 December 2015 (UTC)
additional item types
While "cambrinth" has been an Item Type for awhile, I just noticed that "chakrel" has been added as well. Would it make sense to then create a "soulstone" type? If yes, then I'm not sure how far down the magical stone/metals list it would make sense to add, with "anloral", "gaethzen", all the various runestone materials, etc. --Kythryn 03:16, 3 November 2017 (CDT)
Adding info for potency/infuser
I would like to expand on adding types, if at all possible. Potency crystals can be used/how many and infuser stones if adds charges or resets cooldown. Can probably expand to the other templates as well. -- Thires 14:29, 2/23/2018 (EST)
forcing interior dimensions to show
I'm hoping one of the moderators more comfortable with the templates could make a tweak, although I may give it a try eventually. In one of the recent changes, unless an ITEM is marked as either a container Item Type or has been flagged with the pockets Property, even if there is information available for the interior dimensions & weight capacity, it won't show up on the populated page. Could we update this template so that even if one of those 2 flags isn't there, if there IS information in the ilsize, ihsize, iwsize & csize fields, it will populate on the wiki page anyhow? Maybe have it also include a missing note for needing clarification on a container or pocketed clothing? Kythryn 02:22, 15 November 2022 (CST)