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==Weapon Template Error==
==Bug With Brawling Template==


The damage template is missing "demolishing." Example: {{ilink|w|massive kertig maul with gnarled smokewood haft}}<br>
When the puncture/slice/impact type variable is set to No, the page looks like the puncture/slice/impact damage info is missing.
<br>
Damage scale: [[Appraisal_skill#Weapons]]


==Template Request: Material Properties==
For example: [[Weapon:Gold elbow spikes]]


Etherian has been working on an [https://drservice.info/static/alterationbuddy.htm Alteration Buddy], and we were thinking it would be extremely helpful for those designing alterations to be able to query for certain "fluff" properties of materials. This would best be accomplished by making a "Material Properties: template with the following fields:
Appraisal:
<blockquote>
You are certain that it could do:<br>
no puncture damage ''increase''<br>
quite a bit of slice damage<br>
quite a bit of impact damage
</blockquote>


Using '''-''' for any field would set the value to ''none''.
Form Values:
<blockquote>
|puncture=none<br>
|puncturetype=Yes<br>
|slice=quite a bit<br>
|slicetype=No<br>
|impact=quite a bit<br>
|impacttype=No<br>
</blockquote>


*'''Material Name''': same as page name unless otherwise specified
Page says:
<blockquote>'''Puncture:''' none<br>
'''Slice:''' ''Unknown''<br>
'''Impact:''' ''Unknown''</blockquote>
<br>
The "Facts about" item box at the bottom is also missing damage stats. --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 00:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
: Yea I know. The problem is that I can't set up the template till I have information on how they relate. Is "quite a bit" better or worse than "some?" -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
: I've fixed it so it will display, but without more information on how brawling weapons compare, I can't do much more. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 01:57, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks. Is there any way that the display could add (increase) when "the damage is the special brawling increase type"? For example:


*'''Category''': drop-down menu with the following options:
<blockquote>'''Puncture''': none (increase)<br>
::bone/horn‎, fabric‎, flower/plant, gem, leather‎, metal, shell, stone‎, wood, or other
'''Slice''': quite a bit<br>
'''Impact''': quite a bit</blockquote> --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 15:32, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
: Sure. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
: Done. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks! You're the man. --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 21:22, 18 March 2011 (UTC)


*'''Type of''': if the material is considered a sub-type, variation, or alloy of another material, such as moonsilver (silver), steelsilk (silk), glacier emerald (emerald), etc.
==Whitelisting URLs (CAPTCHA Bypass)==
::''This should be treated as N/A if blank.''


Note: I know there are existing [[:Category:Materials|category tags]] for the above two options. think it would ultimately be better to move the page categorization from the manual category tags to the template. I am happy to do this work once the template is set up.
Is there a way that certain URLs can be added to a whitelist so that contributors don't have to complete a CAPTCHA when these links are posted? [[User:Leito|Leito]] brought it to my attention that he has to go through CAPTCHA every time he adds the DFP tag. --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 20:13, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


*'''Description''': I would move the official description of the material from free text to the template
'''Suggested Whitelist'''
*play.net
*drfuturepast.com
*drplat.com
*drsecrets.com
*elanthia.org
*malific.com
*olwydd.org
*whistlethis.com (character profiler)
*zairius.com
: Already on it. Having Callek look into it since I wouldn't really know where to start. It'll be a bit as he's stuck with RL stuff. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:08, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


*'''Required for Alterations''': drop-down (yes or no)
==Leading Articles (Items)==
::''This should be flagged as unknown if blank.''


*'''Color''': if the material has an inherent or default color, drop-down menu with the following options:
Currently, ''a'', ''an'', and ''some'' are leading articles that are not included in page names or item names. However, other potential articles are not treated consistently. For example, in some items, "a pair of" and "a set of" are treated as leading articles, but in others they are not.<br>
::red/pink, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, neutral (white/black/grey), multicolored, or none (if the material has no inherent color)
<br>
Do you have a full list of leading articles that should be excluded from page names? --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 17:35, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
: To be honest, I have no idea why people have decided to leave out the "pair of" etc, but I've been too lazy to do anything about it. On one hand, it is part of the item, but on the other hand, it doesn't add much to the info.
: What's your opinion? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
::Ignoring the amount of work that it would require to make all of these items consistent, I would only count ''a'', ''an'', and ''some'' as leading articles. Phrases like "a pair of" are not articles (grammatically speaking); they're quantities. Unless we exclude all "leading quantities" from page names, we'd have to decide which to include and which to exclude, and that would breed inconsistency.<br>
::It seems that more of the items that I've looked at omit "pair of" and "set of" than include those terms, so it would be more work to add those terms than remove them. Another issue is that many of the store pages also omit these articles, so it may not be immediately obvious which pages need to be edited. --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 20:27, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
:::I agree, include them from now on, and I'll work on updating the old ones where possible. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 20:28, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
::::Most of that would be from me, based of this post. [[Category talk:Items#Pairs and Sets?]]. If memory serves, it was a decision to the achieve the same effect as the List field.-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 21:40, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::Huh, before my time. Interesting. Well, it'll make linking easier... probably. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


*'''Gives light''': drop-down menu (yes or no). When altering an item, the item cannot give off light unless it is made of a material that gives off light, such as moonsilver. I have found myself searching for materials with this property to match a design.
==Template Suggestions==
::''Because light is a rare property, this value should be presumed no if blank.''


*'''Race association''': drop-down menu with the following options:
===Creature Template===
::none, Dwarf, Elf, Elothean, Gnome, Gor'Tog, Halfling, Human, Kaldar/Gorbesh, Prydaen, Rakash, or S'Kra Mur
Hey Caraamon, any chance of adding box ranges to creature templates? They would be easier to update if they were listed on the creature page. Would be nice to use them as a variable that would show up in the Box Range lists as well. --[[User:Leito|Leito]] 00:13, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
:::''Because race associations are rare, this value should be presumed none if blank.''
: It's a possibility. Lemmie think about how to best do it. Remind me again if I don't get to it this week. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


*'''Guild association''': drop-down menu with the following options:
===Item Template===
::none, Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Empath, Moon Mage, Necromancer, Paladin, Ranger, Thief, Trader, or Warrior Mage

:::''Because guild associations are rare, this value should be presumed none if blank.''
I think that the [[Template:Item|item template]] should have a field that asks whether the item hides any features or items (f=features, i=items, b=both, n=neither). --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 21:35, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

===Post Template===

I think it would be a good idea to modify the [[Template:Post|post template]] so that it automatically includes a link to the forum post. I realize that old posts often disappear, but while they're online, it would be useful to have a link to the original. The post template already contains the information that you need (category, topic, and post number).<br>
<br>
The format for a forum link is:<br>
<br>
https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=20&category=#&topic=#&message=#<br>
:--[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 19:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::It can't currently do that since it currently cannot "process" the folder info. Those would have to be stored in separate fields... assuming there isn't anything odd about trying to format external links. It's possible, but would take a lot of extra work both with the template AND with transferring posts. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 09:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


*'''God association''': drop-down menu with the following options:
Will there ever be a post query? If so, separating the folders into separate fields might be worthwhile. --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 02:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::none, Chadatru, Rutilor, Botolf, Damaris, Phelim, Dergati, Eluned, Lemicus, Drogor, Everild, Kuniyo, Trothfang, Faenella, Murrula, Idon, Glythtide, Saemaus, Be'ort, Hav'roth, Peri'el, Ushnish, Hodierna, Berengaria, Asketi, Kertigen, Divyaush, Zachriedek, Meraud, Firulf, Kerenhappuch, Tamsine, Albreda, Harawep, Truffenyi, Alamhif, Huldah, Urrem'tier, Eylhaar, Aldauth, Rakash god(s), Prydaen god(s), Alaudian/Gorbesh god(s), Gnomish god(s), or other
:Considering that I often find info in folders that have NOTHING to do with it, I'm not really sure it would be. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 05:59, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
:::''Because god associations are rare, this value should be presumed none if blank.''
::That's true, but sometimes you remember which folder a post is in without being able to find the actual post (unless you're willing to scan dozens of pages). --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 18:07, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


I would adapt the [[Elanthipedia:Manual_of_Style/Items|Manual of Style]] standards for items for use with materials.
===Spell Template===


Thanks! --[[User:ISHARON|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON|talk]]) 21:58, 26 September 2017 (CDT)
With the advent of Magic 3.0, I think that it would be good to add a category for obsolete spells. (Currently, they are listed in planned spells, which is misleading.) --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 16:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:Agreed. Lemmie see if I can set up the template to handle it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 22:38, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:Done, and recategorized. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


==Templates==
===Constellation Template===


Something is wrong with the armor template, where it's flagged as cambrinth, but the max charge isn't displaying. E.g., {{ilink|a|dark glaes armor inlaid with complex cambrinth designs}} --[[User:ISHARON|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON|talk]]) 20:08, 28 January 2017 (CST)
Hi Caraamon,
: Fixed! -[[User:CARAAMON|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON|talk]]) 20:49, 31 January 2017 (CST)


== Crafting material pages ==
Any chance the default for not having the "hours in sky" be "all night" or something like that? I ask because hours of night are seasonal dependent, and the constellations with specific hours do not have a varying time.


So I thought I was making up the BONE item pages the same as how you'd made up the METAL item pages, but now I see you're starting to do re-directs on them to other page names. First off, sorry! Guess I should have just done one and gotten you to look it over first. So, with that in mind, do you want to go ahead and do the first leather item up (right now, looks like Antelope skin), so I have a template to do the other leather items that way too so that you won't have to go back and fiddle them later? Not trying to make more work for you...:) --[[User:Kythryn|Kythryn]] 14:51, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks,
: Actually, I'm still testing it, trying to find the way that makes the most sense. Metals and stones are fairly simple, as they always are obvious what they are. Skin and bones isn't always quite so straightforward. I list them in stack form for a couple reasons:
--[[User:Hithrael|Hithrael]] 03:21, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::# So people can easily match what's in their pack to crafting stats.
:Hmmm, I've got an idea. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 10:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::# Because some skin/bones we can't actually attribute to a specific creature yet or come from multiple creatures.
:How's that work for ya? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 10:35, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
::# Because some skin/bones is very oddly named.
::I think it's in the right direction, but doing something weird. See: [[Raven_(constellation)]] --[[User:Hithrael|Hithrael]] 16:18, 20 November 2010 (UTC).
::# Because some similarly named items might end up being very different (Snow Goblin bones might end up different than Elven Pixie Forest and Plains Goblin bones) and so having a Goblin Bone page could cause issues.
:::I think I've beaten it into submission. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 22:31, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
: That being said, this is a wiki and not my personal little fiefdom, so if you think you have a better way to do it, PLEASE give it a shot. I watch all the changes on the site (or at least try), so even if I disagree and change it, some part of your idea may end up being far better. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:01, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Looks that one one's quashed... I think as a last ask, would the "Visibility" one be able to draw from the dates the constellation is up to provide the season match? --[[User:Hithrael|Hithrael]] 01:04, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::You may not claim the title, but we all know: You're king of the Elanthipedia Kingdom...:).
:::::Provide me with the dates which the seasons change, and I can look into it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 01:33, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::So, on the stack vs. no-stack thing, I see where you're coming from. But, on the flip side of that, if you're looking to match what is in a pack, why not lumium shard or silk cloth or onyx rock? I mean, the only thing you can (currently) pick up from it's name is a prepared healing herb (ie. crushed belradi moss becomes crushed belradi), everything else you see as a "cloth" or an "ingot" or whatever. (not trying to be difficult here, but seems like the other materials already have their "qualifier" stripped off, so why not with Bone & Leather too).
::::::[[http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Time#Seasons]] --[[User:Hithrael|Hithrael]] 01:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::And, we do already have Goblin Bone and Pale Goblin Bone (thanks to [[Antendren]] checking a snow goblin question I had) so I do suspect that if the GM's release something from 2 similar creatures, they will give it a separate name. Hopefully. Probably. Maybe.
:::::::In theory, it should be done. I haven't had time to fully test it, so let me know if it goes wonky. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::There seems to be some ambiguity about the "End Date." Are you listing those as the first day they can't be seen, or the last day they can be seen? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 03:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::At the end of the day, I don't really care how we proceed with this, I'm happy to help populate everything. --[[User:Kythryn|Kythryn]] 00:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::::And because I'm just itching to do something with this tonight it seems, I have been playing around with [[Caracal-pelt Leather]], including the base pelt and made a test table under the COMMON LEATHER section on the Crafting Materials page. Let me know what you think, make changes, etc. Thanks! --[[User:Kythryn|Kythryn]] 03:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Start date should be first date visible, end date should be the last date visible.--[[User:Hithrael|Hithrael]] 03:09, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Good, because that's what the template assumes. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 03:10, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::: Perfect! -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 06:07, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::ugh, sorry I didn't get all those leather crafting supplies finished up yet but I did guilt Anuind into getting me samples of all the remaining common leather skins and have them tanned. So, I am (hoping!) to finish that up this coming weekend. That being said, I'd posted on the forums, and will add this to the "crafting feedback" page too, but since there are currently 2 common skins that turn into "some azure-scale leather", each with different stats, should I go ahead and make "some azure-scale leather (1)" and "some azure-scale leather (2)", and a master "disambig" page like this link for both?
:::http://www.elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Weapon:Black-bladed_bastard_sword_with_a_silver_gryphon_atop_the_cross-guard
::--[[User:Kythryn|Kythryn]] 06:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Works for me. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 12:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
::::Ugh, looks like some red-links are still on the crafting materials page from the server transfer. Also, there are some naming things going on when you look at the [[Crafting Materials#Rare Leather]], sometimes it is an ''item'' other times it is just a page. I don't think I'll be re-visiting this in the near future, however if you want to let me know the page naming standard you want for things, if it hasn't been done by the time I motivate, I'll be happy to go through and standardize and follow-up on the red-links. --[[Kythryn]] 15:33, 25 January 2015 (CST)


== Hib Barbarian shop ==
==Moderators==


Heya! I'm updating some of the Hib stuff, and in the Barbarian guild, there is a door that looks like is Barb-only and it looks to be a shop.
How do you decide who becomes a moderator or not? I think my ~3,000 contributions certainly warrant me for consideration. --[[User:Thilan|Thilan]] 16:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
:>look door
:Generally, I go, "Huh we need new mods. Lets check the recent activity list. Okay, he/she's been doing a lot of work." If you haven't been asked, it means that I just didn't happen to see you, not that I've decided you aren't good enough (usually). -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 22:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
:Polished into the brushed bronze of the door are letters that spell out, "Kvaren's".
:It is open.
:>go doo
:A large hand reaches out from behind the curtain and blocks your entrance. A burly guard mutters to you, "Just where, do you think yer goin? This shop is fer members of the Guild only."
I don't know how often you get out of Crossing, but if you're ever out this way, or you know a Barb in the area, might have them pop over and document the stuff? From the street, go boulder, go door, go grey arch, east, SE, east. That puts you in the room to GO DOOR to the shop. --[[Kythryn]] 16:06, 31 January 2015 (CST)


Don't know if this has been answered yet but as I'm in Hibarnhvidor I decided to check this out. Here is the room inside the door and contents of shop. --[[Rhadyn]] 22 January 2016
==Deletion Requests==


[Elding Gwilt, Kvaren's]
Please delete [[Post:The Big Post of Magic Techniques - 1/29/2011 20:41:38]]. I forgot the hyphen in the date and didn't realize that it had already been posted. --[[User:Isharon|Isharon]] 17:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
There is little space to move about in this cramped shop. The bronze door opens inward, guiding customers straight to a display counter, while not making maneuvering any easier. To the left of the the counter, a number of axes have been placed on display on a rack. Adding to the clutter of the establishment, a small shelf hangs above a stout table, each showing off their own wares.
Obvious exits: none.


On the display counter you see a small iron axe bearded with bright steel, an oak-hafted hurling axe with a wide steel blade inlaid with gold tracings, a slender steel throwing axe with a white leather-wrapped haft, a heavy bronze hurling axe with a river boa-shaped haft, a short-hafted hand axe with a dragon-engraved blade, a small axe with faint engravings along its length and a light bronze throwing axe with a grass eel-shaped haft.
I noticed that a person by the name of UliannaMiddleton made an account, posted an article on MCSE, and uploaded a picture about that, all within 1 minute. Looked like a spam bot to me so I edited away the info on the article. If you would please, delete everything else? [[User:Dezmis|Dezmis]] 08:58, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
: Nice catch! -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 09:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


On the axe rack you see a dark ironwood-hafted axe with a cruelly serrated head, a hand axe with an iron-banded handle, a smoke grey lochaber axe with a mottled steel head, a flint-bladed axe with a lengthened handle, an elm-handled battle axe topped by a grinning steel wolfshead, a black iron axe with a maple handle wrapped in thin leather cording, a twohanded war axe with a skull-shaped pommel, a crescent-bladed war axe engraved with a flame pattern, a goldenoak-hafted battle axe with a shining silvered blade and a sleek lochaber axe with a razored edge.
==Change of Page names==
hey chief,
a couple of pages i thought could use a name change, and i'm not sure how...
'sky hawk' - are actually called 'giant snow hawk' in Forf (i added the desc and some notes)
'year 400 fireworks' - i think should be called a 'spectacular show' maybe, since that's what it was called when observed in the sky
[[User:Powerhaus|Powerhaus]] jan 8, 2011
:Moved Hawk page after some fumbling. I don't know much about the fireworks so I'll leave that decision to someone else.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 05:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:: I added a redirector for it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 05:09, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


On the small shelf you see a dented flask, a leather flask, a hammered brass flask, an engraved flask and a wooden flask.
==Durability Changes...==


On the stout table you see a bronze paintstick, a cobalt blue paintstick, a leaf-green paintstick, a note, a blood-red paintstick, a purple paintstick, a gold paintstick, a maroon paintstick and a black paintstick.
Ok, so with durability changes comes new "ranges" in appraisals...


Do we have anything setup that recognizes "Was appraised with old ranges" vs "Was appraised with new ranges" in wiki, if not should we? [http://elanthipedia.com/w/index.php?title=Post:Re:Durability_2.0-_10/10/2010_-_10:36:53&redirect=no] --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 20:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yup. Items not marked with "newapp=yes" get tagged with [[Template:OldApp]]. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


== Unable to upload files ==
Not sure if this is a result of the new durability changes... but when doing database search/sort, the highest to lowest order goes 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 10, 1. [[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] 21:21, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for letting me know, I'll look into it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:44, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:Can you post a link to an example? It doesn't seem to be doing that for me. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:: When I sort this page by balance, it does the 9, 8, 7, etc etc etc 10, 1 thing, but ONLY when I do from most to least. When it goes from least to most, it sorts properly. Sorry for the super long and messy URL. It seems owly and bitly etc are all blocked as spam options.
::<nowiki>http://elanthipedia.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Ask&offset=0&limit=500&q=[[Category:Weapons]]%0A%0A%0A%0A%0A[[Is+combat+type::Light+Edged]]&p=format%3Dbroadtable&po=%3FPuncture+damage+is%0A%3FSlice+damage+is%0A%3FImpact+damage+is%0A%3FBalance+is%0A%3FSuitedness+is%0A%3FWeight+of%0A|Test</nowiki> [[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:21, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, I see it. I suspect it's a bug with the semantic programming, considering how specific it is. I don't think there's anything we can do. I'll do a bit more checking. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 22:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
::::No problem. Just wanted to give you a heads up. It's a really specific oddness and I doubt people would often even run into it. [[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


Any file type I attempt to upload, I receive the following error:
==Multiple Shops==
I was thinking about this on my ride home from a road trip, would it be easier to use other designations for festival shops that change year to year instead of (1), (2) etc? For example, for Hallow Eve fests, they could be (HE2008), (HE2009). Most fests are able to have a two letter designation, HE, GF, EL(Feast of Eluned), EL2(Feast of Eluned2), etc. then that way, we know which year which shop much easier. Just a thought. --[[User:Ysselt|Ysselt]] 03:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
:In general, I would agree, except that it seems that some versions show up at multiple festivals, before they get switched to a new version. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 01:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


The file is a corrupt or otherwise unreadable ZIP file. It cannot be properly checked for security.
==Sysops==


I have tried sfhunter.txt, odt, and docx. I uploaded a new version in November and have made some fixes I need to get uploaded.
I've named you "lead sysop" even though you've been in that roll for a while now. Please glance over the current admins listed [[Elanthipedia:Administrators|here]] and let me know who you think we should bump down due to inactivity and let me know if you want to bump any current editors up due to their contributions to the wiki. I trust your judgement.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 21:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:Wow, I'm flattered. Thanks for your trust.
:: Congratulations. You do tons on this site so if anyone deserved it, it's you. [[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] 01:06, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:As for admins, I think we need to drop [[User:Farman|Farman]] and [[User:Aetherie|Aetherie]], as the most recent post by either of them was January 2009. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


When you can please take a look.
==Shops by Type subcategory not sorting properly==


--[[User:DARKANGELX|DARKANGELX]] ([[User talk:DARKANGELX|talk]]) 22:34, 5 December 2015 (CST)
As the title says, when you get to the lowest level of shops by type everything is bunched together under a single heading based on the level higher. So for example, instead of Magic Shops sorting each shop by the shop's first letter, everything is listed under M for Magic Shops. I checked a few other random subcategories like Shops by Town, etc and they all seem to be working fine.
: It may take a bit to repopulate, it but should be fixed now. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


URL https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/SFhunter_(script)
==Weapon Search Page==


: Let me see what I can do. -[[User:CARAAMON|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON|talk]]) 21:29, 6 December 2015 (CST)
Is there a way to search for weapons that are multiple types, i.e. HT/pike vs. HT/HB or 2HE/HE vs 2HE/2HB? If not can that be added in? Love the feature btw. --[[User:Thilan|Thilan]] 15:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
: You mean items that are both? Hmmm... Lemmie think about how to do it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:52, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


I'm having this problem with image files too, FWIW. It's saying the MIME type is wrong but I've checked the headers and they seem to be totally fine. Tried this with both PNGs and JPGs. [[User:THAYET|-- Thayet]] ([[User talk:THAYET|talk]]) 17:00, 7 December 2015 (CST)
==Blacksmithing==


== Adding TOC to player template card ==
Since you are putting so much work into the new blacksmithing pages, I wonder if you could ad something rather important that is missing: What can you actually make? A list of items which can be crafted I think would be highly useful. [[User:Russell|Russell]] 18:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
:Workin on it :P -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:15, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


Hey Caraamon! Having a Table of Contents and a Player Template Card on the same page was bugging me, so I wanted to take a shot at combining the two. See it in action on [[Uzmam]]'s page. [[User:ABSOLON|Absolon]] also helped out by making it a y/n toggle. I also took the left hand padding from the TOC, changed it into a margin, and adding it to the player template as a whole, giving some space between the main body copy and the player template card.
==Snow Elf Page==


If you like how it works (and if it doesn't break anything!), we can flow it into the default templates for PCs and NPCs. Maybe even shops, who knows! --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 22:33, 13 January 2016 (CST)
Hey there! Is there any way we could get a player page for the Snow Elf category? I had originally had mine on there (just because there wasn't one) and noticed that there were a couple other PC's under the regular Snow Elf category. --[[User:Slecker|Slecker]] 17:02, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:Go ahead and make one. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
:Okey dokey --[[User:Slecker|Slecker]] 18:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


==Age==


== Title redirect / caching issue? ==
I undid your redirect on [[Age]], it created a circular redirect and the page and info became lost. I am not sure which page you wanted the info to be on (Age or Age command) but it ended up on neither with both redirecting to each other. I was scratching my head for awhile trying to find that info that I knew existed before. Go ahead and set it back up how you intended, but I had to undo it for now. [[User:Russell|Russell]] 07:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok I came across a weird issue in regards to titles. Take the title "Shadowmancer" for example. If you go to the [[Title:Shadowmancer]] title page everything is right. If you click on the discussion tab in [[Title:Shadowmancer]] or directly go to [[Shadowmancer]] which redirects to [[Title:Shadowmancer]] you see some old cached version of the page (which you can't edit, when you try to you edit the current version, not this cached version). Now oddly if while on that bad cached page, you click the "(Redirected from Shadowmancer)" link, it takes you back to [[Shadowmancer]], and then when you manually click the redirect link, it takes you to the correct [[Title:Shadowmancer]]. Not sure really what is going on here. Sorry if that is a bit confusing but hopefully it's detailed enough.
: Wasn't paying attention and I didn't notice the [[Age command]] redirected to [[Age]]. Ooops. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


Also as an aside question, for updating titles, the article obsolete stub says "Some of these requirements have not been updated to 3.0. These requirements are italicized." I add the new=yes field to a title when I know all the reqs are updated and it gets rid of the "This article is obsolete" stub, but I'm not sure how to make updated reqs be non italicized (though I guess once the stub is removed it doesn't really matter if they are italicized or not?). -[[User:SYDNEE|SYDNEE]] ([[User talk:SYDNEE|talk]]) 14:20, 13 February 2016 (CST)
==Thanks for Helping!==
: Unfortunately, that's an odd bug that is not something we can fix. I'm not sure exactly what causes it, but we have a bunch of similar bugs having to do with missing discussion pages.
: To deitalicize a requirement, put "newreq=y" somewhere in the requirement. -[[User:CARAAMON|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON|talk]]) 00:58, 15 February 2016 (CST)


== Standard editor permissions ==
I couldn't get the toy sources to link to the treasure box without it displaying oddly. [[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] 02:13, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Moved to [[Elanthipedia Bugs]].
: Just make sure to set the source type to "other." That should fix the issue. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


==Plat Timeline Differences==
== Retiring ==


Hey Caraamon, feel free to demote my account's editing rights. I have left DragonRealms and my account deactivates tomorrow, so I will not be active on the wiki any more.--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 16:26, 28 September 2016 (CDT)
There's been an interest to record how IG events worked out differently in Plat than they did in Prime, so both players and GMs are better at remembering all the minor differences that tend to happen. Would you recommend just having people add a "Plat Differences" section where appropriate? [[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] 17:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
: Go for it. Knock yourself out. I have 0 issues with that. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


== grammar issue with juggling items ==
==Favicon==


"This item is trains a skill with its use." is what they say right now, I'd change it myself but not sure how/where. Should be something like 'Trains perception with use.' or if its generic with other skill building items 'Trains a skill with its use.' --[[User:LEGERES|Legeres]] ([[User talk:LEGERES|talk]]) 17:14, 14 November 2016 (CST)
Just an FYI, the FAVICON.ICO for elanthipedia doesn't appear to be working in any browser. (Chrome, FF, IE). Possibly missing.
: ... I don't actually know what that means. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 03:57, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
: It is shared with several other tags. And right now with things as unstable as they are, I'd rather not edit a template that is used by so many pages. -[[User:CARAAMON|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON|talk]]) 22:01, 17 November 2016 (CST)
::It's the icon that appears in the browser for the page/bookmarks for example, the greyish sphere for play.net page, the facebook "f" icon, etc. It looks like Elanthipedia's is missing (it should be at http://elanthipedia.com/favicon.ico according to the source, but it doesn't appear to be there.) [[User:VTCifer|VTCifer]] 12:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:::I'll let out tech support guy(s) know. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 13:02, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


== Character Page not showing up in categories, Unable to create User Page ==
==Fala Sorgin Title==
I hope this is the right place to post this.


I created a page for my character [[Enalen]] a couple days ago. It's been added to the proper categories via the PC template, and they are linked at the end of the page so that seems to be working fine. But when you go to any of those categories, her page isn't actually filed under them. Also I added an image to the database and put it on the page. It displays properly on the character page but when you look at the image's info page, it claims nothing links to it.
Found an unlisted title. Fala Sorgin. It is a survival3 title with a ~350 PM requirement and an unknown foraging requirement. It is elvish, which means Forest wizard. I don't know how to put it on the titles list.
:Unfortunately, category pages take a while to populate. If the recent Chris' Mass shop category page is any indication, this should happen automatically within a week. By the way, please only use the actual race name (for example, Elf), not clans, in the race field. I added a category at the bottom to categorize your page as a player River Elf. --[[User:ISHARON|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON|talk]]) 18:13, 7 January 2017 (CST)
:[[Form:Title]]-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 17:37, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


On top of those two things, I'm unable to create my own user page. When I click my Username and click create, I am sent to a blank page with nothing on it. The create page shows up fine when clicking any other red link though. Are these bugs? Or are they some of the functions that were broken by the update mentioned? -- [[User:DOOMKITTY|DOOMKITTY]] ([[User talk:DOOMKITTY|talk]]) 05:42, 3 January 2017 (CST)
== Change Username ==
:This is a bug. I will report it to staff. --[[User:ISHARON|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON|talk]]) 18:13, 7 January 2017 (CST)


== Still Around? ==
Hello there! Who would one need to speak to about changing one's username? Is that possible?


Hey Caraamon are you still around?
:Let's go with "The Ginger"? Feel free to take the space out if that isn't allowed.<br />[[User:Vien|Vien]] 07:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
::Go ahead and create the account and I'll merge them. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:30, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Here we go. [[User:The Ginger|The Ginger]] 01:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

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Weapon Template Error

The damage template is missing "demolishing." Example: massive kertig maul with gnarled smokewood haft

Damage scale: Appraisal_skill#Weapons

Template Request: Material Properties

Etherian has been working on an Alteration Buddy, and we were thinking it would be extremely helpful for those designing alterations to be able to query for certain "fluff" properties of materials. This would best be accomplished by making a "Material Properties: template with the following fields:

Using - for any field would set the value to none.

  • Material Name: same as page name unless otherwise specified
  • Category: drop-down menu with the following options:
bone/horn‎, fabric‎, flower/plant, gem, leather‎, metal, shell, stone‎, wood, or other
  • Type of: if the material is considered a sub-type, variation, or alloy of another material, such as moonsilver (silver), steelsilk (silk), glacier emerald (emerald), etc.
This should be treated as N/A if blank.

Note: I know there are existing category tags for the above two options. think it would ultimately be better to move the page categorization from the manual category tags to the template. I am happy to do this work once the template is set up.

  • Description: I would move the official description of the material from free text to the template
  • Required for Alterations: drop-down (yes or no)
This should be flagged as unknown if blank.
  • Color: if the material has an inherent or default color, drop-down menu with the following options:
red/pink, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, neutral (white/black/grey), multicolored, or none (if the material has no inherent color)
  • Gives light: drop-down menu (yes or no). When altering an item, the item cannot give off light unless it is made of a material that gives off light, such as moonsilver. I have found myself searching for materials with this property to match a design.
Because light is a rare property, this value should be presumed no if blank.
  • Race association: drop-down menu with the following options:
none, Dwarf, Elf, Elothean, Gnome, Gor'Tog, Halfling, Human, Kaldar/Gorbesh, Prydaen, Rakash, or S'Kra Mur
Because race associations are rare, this value should be presumed none if blank.
  • Guild association: drop-down menu with the following options:
none, Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Empath, Moon Mage, Necromancer, Paladin, Ranger, Thief, Trader, or Warrior Mage
Because guild associations are rare, this value should be presumed none if blank.
  • God association: drop-down menu with the following options:
none, Chadatru, Rutilor, Botolf, Damaris, Phelim, Dergati, Eluned, Lemicus, Drogor, Everild, Kuniyo, Trothfang, Faenella, Murrula, Idon, Glythtide, Saemaus, Be'ort, Hav'roth, Peri'el, Ushnish, Hodierna, Berengaria, Asketi, Kertigen, Divyaush, Zachriedek, Meraud, Firulf, Kerenhappuch, Tamsine, Albreda, Harawep, Truffenyi, Alamhif, Huldah, Urrem'tier, Eylhaar, Aldauth, Rakash god(s), Prydaen god(s), Alaudian/Gorbesh god(s), Gnomish god(s), or other
Because god associations are rare, this value should be presumed none if blank.

I would adapt the Manual of Style standards for items for use with materials.

Thanks! --ISHARON (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2017 (CDT)

Templates

Something is wrong with the armor template, where it's flagged as cambrinth, but the max charge isn't displaying. E.g., dark glaes armor inlaid with complex cambrinth designs --ISHARON (talk) 20:08, 28 January 2017 (CST)

Fixed! -CARAAMON (talk) 20:49, 31 January 2017 (CST)

Crafting material pages

So I thought I was making up the BONE item pages the same as how you'd made up the METAL item pages, but now I see you're starting to do re-directs on them to other page names. First off, sorry! Guess I should have just done one and gotten you to look it over first. So, with that in mind, do you want to go ahead and do the first leather item up (right now, looks like Antelope skin), so I have a template to do the other leather items that way too so that you won't have to go back and fiddle them later? Not trying to make more work for you...:) --Kythryn 14:51, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I'm still testing it, trying to find the way that makes the most sense. Metals and stones are fairly simple, as they always are obvious what they are. Skin and bones isn't always quite so straightforward. I list them in stack form for a couple reasons:
  1. So people can easily match what's in their pack to crafting stats.
  2. Because some skin/bones we can't actually attribute to a specific creature yet or come from multiple creatures.
  3. Because some skin/bones is very oddly named.
  4. Because some similarly named items might end up being very different (Snow Goblin bones might end up different than Elven Pixie Forest and Plains Goblin bones) and so having a Goblin Bone page could cause issues.
That being said, this is a wiki and not my personal little fiefdom, so if you think you have a better way to do it, PLEASE give it a shot. I watch all the changes on the site (or at least try), so even if I disagree and change it, some part of your idea may end up being far better. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 19:01, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
You may not claim the title, but we all know: You're king of the Elanthipedia Kingdom...:).
So, on the stack vs. no-stack thing, I see where you're coming from. But, on the flip side of that, if you're looking to match what is in a pack, why not lumium shard or silk cloth or onyx rock? I mean, the only thing you can (currently) pick up from it's name is a prepared healing herb (ie. crushed belradi moss becomes crushed belradi), everything else you see as a "cloth" or an "ingot" or whatever. (not trying to be difficult here, but seems like the other materials already have their "qualifier" stripped off, so why not with Bone & Leather too).
And, we do already have Goblin Bone and Pale Goblin Bone (thanks to Antendren checking a snow goblin question I had) so I do suspect that if the GM's release something from 2 similar creatures, they will give it a separate name. Hopefully. Probably. Maybe.
At the end of the day, I don't really care how we proceed with this, I'm happy to help populate everything. --Kythryn 00:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
And because I'm just itching to do something with this tonight it seems, I have been playing around with Caracal-pelt Leather, including the base pelt and made a test table under the COMMON LEATHER section on the Crafting Materials page. Let me know what you think, make changes, etc. Thanks! --Kythryn 03:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Perfect! -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 06:07, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
ugh, sorry I didn't get all those leather crafting supplies finished up yet but I did guilt Anuind into getting me samples of all the remaining common leather skins and have them tanned. So, I am (hoping!) to finish that up this coming weekend. That being said, I'd posted on the forums, and will add this to the "crafting feedback" page too, but since there are currently 2 common skins that turn into "some azure-scale leather", each with different stats, should I go ahead and make "some azure-scale leather (1)" and "some azure-scale leather (2)", and a master "disambig" page like this link for both?
http://www.elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Weapon:Black-bladed_bastard_sword_with_a_silver_gryphon_atop_the_cross-guard
--Kythryn 06:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Works for me. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 12:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Ugh, looks like some red-links are still on the crafting materials page from the server transfer. Also, there are some naming things going on when you look at the Crafting Materials#Rare Leather, sometimes it is an item other times it is just a page. I don't think I'll be re-visiting this in the near future, however if you want to let me know the page naming standard you want for things, if it hasn't been done by the time I motivate, I'll be happy to go through and standardize and follow-up on the red-links. --Kythryn 15:33, 25 January 2015 (CST)

Hib Barbarian shop

Heya! I'm updating some of the Hib stuff, and in the Barbarian guild, there is a door that looks like is Barb-only and it looks to be a shop.

>look door
Polished into the brushed bronze of the door are letters that spell out, "Kvaren's".
It is open.
>go doo
A large hand reaches out from behind the curtain and blocks your entrance. A burly guard mutters to you, "Just where, do you think yer goin? This shop is fer members of the Guild only."

I don't know how often you get out of Crossing, but if you're ever out this way, or you know a Barb in the area, might have them pop over and document the stuff? From the street, go boulder, go door, go grey arch, east, SE, east. That puts you in the room to GO DOOR to the shop. --Kythryn 16:06, 31 January 2015 (CST)

Don't know if this has been answered yet but as I'm in Hibarnhvidor I decided to check this out. Here is the room inside the door and contents of shop. --Rhadyn 22 January 2016

[Elding Gwilt, Kvaren's] There is little space to move about in this cramped shop. The bronze door opens inward, guiding customers straight to a display counter, while not making maneuvering any easier. To the left of the the counter, a number of axes have been placed on display on a rack. Adding to the clutter of the establishment, a small shelf hangs above a stout table, each showing off their own wares. Obvious exits: none.

On the display counter you see a small iron axe bearded with bright steel, an oak-hafted hurling axe with a wide steel blade inlaid with gold tracings, a slender steel throwing axe with a white leather-wrapped haft, a heavy bronze hurling axe with a river boa-shaped haft, a short-hafted hand axe with a dragon-engraved blade, a small axe with faint engravings along its length and a light bronze throwing axe with a grass eel-shaped haft.

On the axe rack you see a dark ironwood-hafted axe with a cruelly serrated head, a hand axe with an iron-banded handle, a smoke grey lochaber axe with a mottled steel head, a flint-bladed axe with a lengthened handle, an elm-handled battle axe topped by a grinning steel wolfshead, a black iron axe with a maple handle wrapped in thin leather cording, a twohanded war axe with a skull-shaped pommel, a crescent-bladed war axe engraved with a flame pattern, a goldenoak-hafted battle axe with a shining silvered blade and a sleek lochaber axe with a razored edge.

On the small shelf you see a dented flask, a leather flask, a hammered brass flask, an engraved flask and a wooden flask.

On the stout table you see a bronze paintstick, a cobalt blue paintstick, a leaf-green paintstick, a note, a blood-red paintstick, a purple paintstick, a gold paintstick, a maroon paintstick and a black paintstick.


Unable to upload files

Any file type I attempt to upload, I receive the following error:

The file is a corrupt or otherwise unreadable ZIP file. It cannot be properly checked for security.

I have tried sfhunter.txt, odt, and docx. I uploaded a new version in November and have made some fixes I need to get uploaded.

When you can please take a look.

--DARKANGELX (talk) 22:34, 5 December 2015 (CST)

URL https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/SFhunter_(script)

Let me see what I can do. -CARAAMON (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2015 (CST)

I'm having this problem with image files too, FWIW. It's saying the MIME type is wrong but I've checked the headers and they seem to be totally fine. Tried this with both PNGs and JPGs. -- Thayet (talk) 17:00, 7 December 2015 (CST)

Adding TOC to player template card

Hey Caraamon! Having a Table of Contents and a Player Template Card on the same page was bugging me, so I wanted to take a shot at combining the two. See it in action on Uzmam's page. Absolon also helped out by making it a y/n toggle. I also took the left hand padding from the TOC, changed it into a margin, and adding it to the player template as a whole, giving some space between the main body copy and the player template card.

If you like how it works (and if it doesn't break anything!), we can flow it into the default templates for PCs and NPCs. Maybe even shops, who knows! --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2016 (CST)


Title redirect / caching issue?

Ok I came across a weird issue in regards to titles. Take the title "Shadowmancer" for example. If you go to the Title:Shadowmancer title page everything is right. If you click on the discussion tab in Title:Shadowmancer or directly go to Shadowmancer which redirects to Title:Shadowmancer you see some old cached version of the page (which you can't edit, when you try to you edit the current version, not this cached version). Now oddly if while on that bad cached page, you click the "(Redirected from Shadowmancer)" link, it takes you back to Shadowmancer, and then when you manually click the redirect link, it takes you to the correct Title:Shadowmancer. Not sure really what is going on here. Sorry if that is a bit confusing but hopefully it's detailed enough.

Also as an aside question, for updating titles, the article obsolete stub says "Some of these requirements have not been updated to 3.0. These requirements are italicized." I add the new=yes field to a title when I know all the reqs are updated and it gets rid of the "This article is obsolete" stub, but I'm not sure how to make updated reqs be non italicized (though I guess once the stub is removed it doesn't really matter if they are italicized or not?). -SYDNEE (talk) 14:20, 13 February 2016 (CST)

Unfortunately, that's an odd bug that is not something we can fix. I'm not sure exactly what causes it, but we have a bunch of similar bugs having to do with missing discussion pages.
To deitalicize a requirement, put "newreq=y" somewhere in the requirement. -CARAAMON (talk) 00:58, 15 February 2016 (CST)

Standard editor permissions

Moved to Elanthipedia Bugs.

Retiring

Hey Caraamon, feel free to demote my account's editing rights. I have left DragonRealms and my account deactivates tomorrow, so I will not be active on the wiki any more.--ABSOLON (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2016 (CDT)

grammar issue with juggling items

"This item is trains a skill with its use." is what they say right now, I'd change it myself but not sure how/where. Should be something like 'Trains perception with use.' or if its generic with other skill building items 'Trains a skill with its use.' --Legeres (talk) 17:14, 14 November 2016 (CST)

It is shared with several other tags. And right now with things as unstable as they are, I'd rather not edit a template that is used by so many pages. -CARAAMON (talk) 22:01, 17 November 2016 (CST)

Character Page not showing up in categories, Unable to create User Page

I hope this is the right place to post this.

I created a page for my character Enalen a couple days ago. It's been added to the proper categories via the PC template, and they are linked at the end of the page so that seems to be working fine. But when you go to any of those categories, her page isn't actually filed under them. Also I added an image to the database and put it on the page. It displays properly on the character page but when you look at the image's info page, it claims nothing links to it.

Unfortunately, category pages take a while to populate. If the recent Chris' Mass shop category page is any indication, this should happen automatically within a week. By the way, please only use the actual race name (for example, Elf), not clans, in the race field. I added a category at the bottom to categorize your page as a player River Elf. --ISHARON (talk) 18:13, 7 January 2017 (CST)

On top of those two things, I'm unable to create my own user page. When I click my Username and click create, I am sent to a blank page with nothing on it. The create page shows up fine when clicking any other red link though. Are these bugs? Or are they some of the functions that were broken by the update mentioned? -- DOOMKITTY (talk) 05:42, 3 January 2017 (CST)

This is a bug. I will report it to staff. --ISHARON (talk) 18:13, 7 January 2017 (CST)

Still Around?

Hey Caraamon are you still around?

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