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User deletion

I saw you deleted User:Pythea, but there was no justification given. What's going on? --Basselope 00:36, 3 December 2007 (CST)

LOL Nothing is going on. Cimilan added content to her page, where there was none before, and I deleted it.  :) --Naeya (talk) 00:43, 3 December 2007 (CST)

uhm yeah it was my bad I just added Pytheas look to her user page my fault geez, lets all jump on the easy train to blaming me instead of the person who deleted my mess up..


  • Cimilans first rule of wiki
    • dont edit someone else personal page

--Cimilan 00:47, 3 December 2007 (CST)

Natashya article

Edit war started up again about 3 minutes after you unlocked the article. Please lock it again. --Basselope 19:08, 3 December 2007 (CST)

I just noticed myself, took a bit of action on my own part; and Will not hesitate to re-protect if need be on that if my work turns out to be fruitless. --Callek 19:28, 3 December 2007 (CST)
Alas, I had hoped they would refrain from that, but I was wrong. Thank you for doing that, Callek. Helps a ton!--Naeya (talk) 19:42, 3 December 2007 (CST)

Creating a Template

Hey, I'm browsing around looking for information on creating a template... i would like to make one for GMNPC's, any idea where i can find some info on creating them? Rawkus 21:59, 7 January 2008 (CST)

Take a look at our Help:Templates, there's a link to tutorials for template making. --Naeya (talk) 22:05, 7 January 2008 (CST)
Thanks for adding that space underneath the stat block, i was going crazy trying to figure out how to add that, line breaks didn't work so i was browsing the help files when you actually did it Rawkus 23:51, 8 January 2008 (CST)
Welcome :) --Naeya (talk) 00:00, 9 January 2008 (CST)

Made a new template

Hey, I just made a new template for khris Template:Khri since they're now (1) extensible and (2) have lots of individual information associated with them singly. I also built pages for seven khris, though they're not complete (I've only put mechanics information on Khri Focus; I've got stuff for each one). Anyways, letting you know and going to give Admins some time to disagree on what I've done/clean up my mess. I also want to heavily modify the Template so that it can handle Special Khris and Combination Khris. Probably going to need a nice mess of ifeqs. I'll try to check the obvious places for responses (like here), but if I look like I'm being a loose cannon, tag me on AIM. --Diarik 04:36, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Hmm aren't khris still considered in-game secrets?--Naeya (talk) 14:32, 1 February 2008 (CST)
In the game, yes. However, all the information I've posted up so far was posted to the forums. Also, according to Zeyurn, discussion of khris, with names and numbers, is allowed on the forums. If you feel they should be taken down, please be my guest. You may also want to remove Khri. --Diarik 16:09, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Plaques, signs, and the like

Don't suppose there's an easy way to lock the words into a box or something? I'm learning as i go honest(mostly by looking at how others do things).--Legeres 23:09, 7 February 2008 (CST)

That's rather vague. What are you referring to?--Naeya (talk) 23:12, 7 February 2008 (CST)
a table or a chart or something, especially for the super long ones --Legeres 00:16, 8 February 2008 (CST)
never mind i figured it out a space before the beginning of each line (ear sad)--Legeres 00:33, 8 February 2008 (CST)

Templates and Standardization

It occurred to me that standardization seems to be a big issue all across subjects. Take a look at this and see what you think. --Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi 13:56, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Will continue this topic conversation there.--Naeya (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

Manual of Style

I made some severe changes, take a look and let me know if you object. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi 17:11, 30 May 2008 (CDT)

Item Catagory?

Having done some major work on items, it occurs to me that some of the searching and name issues (such as those juggling items called "wolf spiders") could be solved by having a dedicated category for items. Any thoughts? -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 17:11, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

Veyne

You might want to take a peek at this. I may have overstepped my authority, but this looks like a problem just waiting to happen. I couldn't find any precedent on it, so I thought I should lock it till it could be discussed.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 03:58, 8 June 2008 (CDT)

Forms

I've done everything I can with the knowledge I have of forms right now. Where can I find more info? I can't seem to find anything. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 19:39, 11 June 2008 (CDT)

Semantic Forms --Naeya (talk) 20:07, 11 June 2008 (CDT)

Major Changes

I'd like permission to do two things: 1) Move all items to Item/Armor/Shield/Weapon namespaces (I'll take care of the work and links) and 2) Implimenting semantic wiki "tagging" via templates. The sooner you get back to me, the better. I've got a week till I start working IRL. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 04:48, 12 June 2008 (CDT)

Hmm ok, so you want four new namespaces created: Item, Armor, Shield and Weapon (which I'll have to do via the server). I'll also need to get the server admin to run a few maintenance scripts on it after we've made those.--Naeya (talk) 09:38, 12 June 2008 (CDT)
Done.--Naeya (talk) 17:13, 12 June 2008 (CDT)
The semantic wiki stuff doesn't seem to be functioning in anything in the new namespaces. Any clue? -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 23:42, 12 June 2008 (CDT)
No idea. How exactly aren't they funcitoning? Might needta read up on Semantic MediaWiki when using custom namespaces (IE you will since you're neck deep in this stuff atm) Then let me know what changes I need to make. Sorry to kinda leave you high and dry but I don't have time to get embroiled in that stuff atm due to RL.--Naeya (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

Possible Fix for Semantic Failure and Question

I ran across this in the admin docs, it may be what's wrong: 

(3) Perhaps Adjust namespaces.  Semantic MediaWiki uses six additional custom namespaces. By default their indices start at 100. If you have added your own custom namespaces, then
you have to set the variable $smwgNamespaceIndex in LocalSettings.php before including SMW_Settings.php. See the documentation in SMW_Settings.php for details. If you add more
namespaces later on, then you have to assign them to higher index numbers than those used by Semantic MediaWiki. 

Semantic MediaWiki only evaluates semantic annotations in some namespaces. For example, by default it ignores semantic annotations in talk pages. If you want to change the
namespaces with annotations (likely if you have added your own custom namespaces), then you have to change the array variable $smwgNamespacesWithSemanticLinks in SMW_Settings.php.

There also seems to be an issue with the semantic search. Since you didn't mention it so far, I wanted to make sure that it was enabled, linked, tuned, polished, put up on blocks, and properly licensed with the appropriate government organizations, before I started complaining about doom and server failure. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 14:56, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

Well I started the indices at 108 (after the last namespace added "Form - 107"), so I don't think it's an index problem. I'll hafta look into semantic search in a bit I guess.--Naeya (talk) 15:09, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Is the whole array variable doodad updated and paid for?-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 15:28, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
The what?--Naeya (talk) 15:54, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Check the second paragraph that I posted. It says something about changing the array variable $smwgNamespacesWithSemanticLinks in SMW_Settings.php if you want annotations to be active in new namespaces.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 16:13, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Alright, I'll do that.--Naeya (talk) 16:25, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
BINGO! It's working. And that's why you're the boss.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 16:38, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Nevermind, I'm an idiot and was looking in the wrong namespace.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 16:44, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
LOL I was fixin to say, I didn't do anything yet! So everything is peachy now?--Naeya (talk) 16:47, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Nope. No change that I can see.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 17:13, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
I freely admit I have no real idea, but would this page help?-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 18:18, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
I just read over our past conversations, and it looks like I was less than clear. No it's not working, I thought it was but I looked in the wrong namespace. See? Clear as an iron curtain.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 18:33, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Okay.....here's something to make things even wierder. I did a search by property and successfully got 3 items out of the tons I should have gotten...but get this, two of them were in them Item namespace...... It looks like the issue may not be that it's not tracking the new namespaces but that it's just not showing the little factbox thing in them....I'm so confused!!!!-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 18:38, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
You probably need to wait. The job-queue is pretty big as of my posting right now. Special:Statistics--Naeya (talk) 18:42, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
No dice. job-queue 0, still working only strangely.-Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 19:32, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

Can you show me exactly how to reproduce this problem? As I have no idea where to even begin to fix it now. Should we just nuke the namespaces and stick to the Main namespace?--Naeya (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

Okay, basically here's the symptoms: Items, when in the normal namespace, when edited acquire their proper Template defined semantic properties. They even retain these once moved. However, once moved, they no longer pick up new ones....despite having the exact same template that assigns semantic qualities in the exact same way. However, even if they propertly retain their semantic properties, the semantic overlay (the factbox at the bottom, any warning notes within the body, etc) fails to appear. So ya..... I'd just like to say for posterities sake, I blame you, President Nixon and the Orange Growers of America.....but I won't say for what. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 20:00, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
LOL Well with all your fiddlings, you know more about Semantic MediaWiki than I do... hmm so I really don't know. Eep? Was there anything mentioned over at the SM site about this kinda of error?--Naeya (talk) 20:19, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Okay, without having access to the code I'm somewhat limited in my guesses, but I ran across two other people having the same problem in their "forum." [[1]] and [[2]]. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 17:25, 14 June 2008 (CDT)
Hey, Caraamon. I added all the custom namespaces to that SMW_Settings.php file. It seems that the fact boxes still aren't appearing on the other namespace pages though. And those links above for the other two people reporting problems. Does the semantic search work for the namespaces now though?--Naeya (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2008 (CDT)

Error Error, Weapon's Can't Talk!

We've got another issue, but HOPEFULLY this will be easy. Right now, the wiki thinks the Weapon namespace is the talk namespace for the Shield category. :P -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 20:00, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

Was a problem on my end, fixed now. You'll need to move those weapons back to the Weapon namespace (I moved them out, if I hadn't they'd have been lost).--Naeya (talk) 20:17, 13 June 2008 (CDT)
Hmmm, you might have bumped something while you were at it. When I attempt to edit using the weapon form I get the following response:
Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to SMWDataValueFactory::getPropertyObjectTypeID() must be an instance of Title, null given, called
in /usr/home/elanthia/public_html/w/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore.php on line 225 and defined
 in /usr/home/elanthia/public_html/w/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DataValueFactory.php on line 193
No idea what that means. -Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi(talk) 02:38, 15 June 2008 (CDT)
Neither do I, and no it wasn't something I did. Namespaces have nothing to do with the SMW extension files. I think we're both out of our depth with this. I'm sorry but I really don't have the time right now to mess with SMW.--Naeya (talk) 02:50, 15 June 2008 (CDT)


Confusion About Individual Anatomy Charts

Hey, I've been trying to set them up to say how much they cost, what scholarship they need, ect on each page and there's a blank template on the page but I'm having trouble filling it in. Is there somewhere on the site I can read up about this?

First off, please don't move all items out of the Item: namespace (which is what you're doing). I could understand it for the herbs (but they'll probably end up being moved back). However, they're called Item:Blah blah blah for a purpose. I'll have to take a look at those charts + the Item template and see what's in store. I'll ask Caraamon how he wants those handed, but yes, please stop redirecting Item: pages to a none Item: namespace page. I know you didn't know, but we're trying to keep all items with the Item: prefix.--Naeya (talk) 09:00, 27 June 2008 (CDT)

OK, please undo all the moves (if you can). If not, I'll do it for you. Then click on Edit with form above the article (to the left of the normal Edit tab). This is where you enter all your information, see how I did Item:Silver leucro anatomy chart for more info. --Naeya (talk) 09:05, 27 June 2008 (CDT)

Oh and I don't mean to sound harsh at all! I just woke up! :) To explain the above, we're in the middle of moving items TO the Item: prefix (called a namespace). So redirecting FROM that namespace wouldn't be good :) We've also set up Forms to help with item entry, so when you Edit with Form, it's much easier for those unfamiliar (and even those with some wiki knowledge as you say you are).--Naeya (talk) 09:16, 27 June 2008 (CDT)
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