Concept talk:Evil creatures

Based purely on DISCERN, Bless is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while Harm Evil can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I'd think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it'd probably be better to add a "Can use Bless" flag within the Template:Critter. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that Harm Evil and Harm Horde are effective against, instead of Bless. - Padhg ^(talk) 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)

The concept is literally "These creatures are undead, cursed, or both." Can you point me to a creature entry that is representative of a minion of a dark god? I want to look at the properties.--ABSOLON (talk) 19:46, 12 August 2015 (CDT)

The invading Brine shark (Drogor's minions) from last Hallow's Eve would be an example. These were vulnerable to Harm Evil. I cannot speak to whether they took additional damage from Bless. - Padhg ^(talk) 15:56 27 August 2015 (UTC)

They're just cursed creatures, it's not a separate "dark god minion" flag. From my logs "The blue brine shark is cursed, and you are certain that it has an incredible spirit that is healthy." --GAMERGIRL151 (talk) 12:27, 27 August 2015 (CDT)

I've updated the Brine Shark page with that cursed data. As far as I'm aware, there is no in-game 'minion of a dark god' flag with either or both of cursed\undead being used to indicate this instead. I.e. All the creatures I have found are either flagged as cursed or undead already and so would belong on this list anyway. I suspect that this is just a flowery description in the discern and doesn't need a separate distinction on the wiki.--ABSOLON (talk) 16:53, 27 August 2015 (CDT)