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Bestiary Level List

How does the table generate values for things like min/max rank caps? If I edit an individual critters page to update the min/max caps, will it reflect in the table, or do I have to edit the table itself? I can't seem to figure out how to do the latter. If it doesn't auto-update, is there an easy way to make that happen?--Luckysevens 18:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

The Bestiary Level List is automatically populated by data from the individual creature pages. --Isharon 05:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

What Ish said. It draws it's data from each of the individual critter pages. If you edit those, then it will alter the table, though there may be some lag between the two. If you do make an edit and it never seems to pop up, then edit the level list page, make no edits, then save it. That should refresh it. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 05:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha, looks like I was just being impatient. :) Thanks! --Luckysevens 18:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Shard alchemy shop pyramid

So I have an item that is purchased from a shop catalog, and the catalog link is just 'Wayerd pyramid', but when you buy it, you get 'a bone-trimmed wayerd pyramid'. The shop link currently points to a generic 'wayerd pyramid' item page. Want me to go ahead and just make up the correct item and let you worry about the shop link? The shop is Shard's Osut'vie. --Kythryn 06:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Shop is fixed. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 06:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Item is made too. I've made a note how you did that in case I come across something else like that again. --Kythryn 06:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Great. Happy to help! -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 06:32, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

alchemy-ish items

Ok, new question before I start in on my next round of adding in new alchemy stuffs. Bottles, jars, jugs. Things like this are useful in alchemy now for consolidating water from a fresh water source, but they don't have any analyze to them because they aren't tools. I'll be making a note of how many parts of liquid each will contain in my sandbox notes, do you want me to add that as a 'free text' note to the e-pedia listings too? And since they are alchemy-ish, I want to make sure you want them tagged with the 'alchemy' property as well (even though they aren't tools).
And, in practice, jugs & bottles are the same thing (containers with 'stoppers'), do you want separate top pages for these if we consider them 'alchemy tools' or do we have just a single top page and mention in the descriptive text there are different types (jugs, bottles, beakers, etc.)?
Also, I was working to bring in-line all the primary alchemy tool pages to match the Wayerd pyramid page and saw that the Unlonchai bucket page had been redirected to unlonchai bucket. Can I go ahead and put it back to the Unlonchai bucket so that it matches the other tool top pages?
Thanks! --Kythryn 05:38, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

If the jugs, bottles, etc. are no longer used for mixing or anything but collecting water, then they're not alchemy tools, they're just odd containers, so go ahead and pull off the alchemy tags. Go ahead and pick a generic term if they all act the same, just note they come in a variety of forms. Go ahead and add container amount, no issues there.

From now on, assume that if it doesn't have an analyze, it's not a tool (for those crafts that are released) unless you can think of a good idea why not. My preference would be to err on the side of labeling too many things, rather than too few, as it would be far harder to dig through "not tools" looking for the "semitools" compared to just skipping over a couple of "semitools" when going through the tool list. However, I'll leave it to your judgement.

For ease of use, if an item is used in one of the old crafts, but not the new ones (for those released) don't label it as a tool for that craft. For example, the tincture jars (at least, I don't think they're used now, ignore if they are). Eventually the supply of old herbs/etc. will be gone and they won't be usable, but by then we'll probably have forgotten.

Also, go ahead with the bucket page, make a top page, as I expect they'll start coming in a variety of forms like the pyramids, eventually.

And as always, if I've overlooked something that makes any of these suggestions stupid, go ahead and work out something that works better. I'm not nearly as tyrannical as the constant beheadings would indicate. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 13:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

That is the shield that was not put in correctly

http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Shield:Circular_buckler_painted_with_a_smiling_face

The Polished uenlata crafted with shariza handgrips‎ is from 2010 a simple search shows tons of people selling it so again not an alter.

The problem is I can never tell whether it's several items being sold separately, or one item making the rounds of various characters. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 06:07, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Searching Forum Posts

Sometimes I remember which GM posted something I want to look up, and it'd be nice to be able to have a query to search for archived posts under that GM. Is there an easy way to do that currently? Normally I just use a wildcard search for the GM's name, but the results are pretty ugly. --Zamara 18:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Eh... yeah. When I have a moment, I can set it up. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 21:42, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Added, but it will take a while for the database to be fully populated. Property:Posted by. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 02:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

New Form for Player-Owned Boats/Ships and support

Looking over the information for the player owned ships, I find that it's pretty lacking in information on the actual ships out there. I'd like to suggest a form for adding the information in there, and support for searching/listing the information as well as a category for Player-Owned Boats. I see from your archive that you've been asked in the past for help setting up a table. Unfortunately, the old roster on Kraelyst's site is down so I'll be attempting to build up this information from scratch. --hexedbythenet 19:41, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

It would also be need to add a link to the ships page either to the "player" section or the "world" section on the front page. :)--hexedbythenet 19:59, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

If I'm understanding you right, you want a form for PC boats like Form:Weapon? I'm not entirely sure that's necessary, or even reasonably easy. Forms work oddly, and I'm not sure they're suited for that. Let me think on it. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 23:37, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

The form would just make it easier to log the information from the 50+ boats. It would also make going though the existing listings easier. Start with the page name/boat name. Select player owned or public. Put information for Rooms, Pilot, Captain, etc. If a form would be unreasonable, a template could also work for what I envision. Have all ships go into the Category:Boats and split that into two sub-categories for Public Vessels and Private Ships. I pretty much picture this looking like a list of the boats with each page containing information displayed in the same manner as a shop would instead of the paragraph of text approach. --hexedbythenet 17:17, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Ahhh, that is more doable. I thought you wanted a form for setting up a listing on a single page. Yes, that can be done. What information fields would you like present in the form/template? -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 18:49, 12 August 2013 (UTC)