Category talk:Titles

ToDo

To help convert to TitleReq's and move to correct namespace see: Titles/ToDo --Callek 06:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Adding a new Title

Adding a new title is an easy process.

• go to the Titles article for the category it is in, (such as Survival Titles 1 - note that this is different from the subcategory page eg. Category:Survival 1 Titles)
• Edit the page
• You should see, in the list, something like

{{:SomeTitle}}
|-
{{:SomeOtherTitle}}
|-
...

• Notice a pattern here? Good, add the following

{{:MyNewTitle}}
|-

• Just like the pattern allready suggests. (being sure to replace the word "MyNewTitle" with the actual title you are creating.
• Save the page.
• Scan the page for the red-link to the new title page, and select it to edit it.
• Use the template {{title}} to add in the new title page, (add any special notes below the template in a <noinclude /> section
• See Template:Title for more information on how to enter the title itself.

Any questions, see Callek or Naeya.

Title chart bugginess

Whatever changes people are updating the title pages with are causing the charts to not work anymore(e.g. Astrology, criminal titles). I can't figure out exactly what is causing it though to fix it. --Choson 08:29, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Its something to do with the Title: namespace. I can't figure out how to make it pull the Tile:blahblah field, with Title in front either. Hithrael 14:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Help! This is still not fixed. I added all the title categories to the main page (many were missing, it's confusing to try and combine all the weapon titles, so let's seperate them the same way they're seperated in game. Unfortunately I can't get title charts to work on any of the new pages. (Forgot to sign at the time. Doing so now, a few days late.) --Zeltaen 22:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the titles that have the namespace 'xxx' instead of 'title:xxx' work properly. If we create new pages for each title with the correct namespace I think that will fix the issue but then someone will have to delete all the duplicate title articles and I'm not sure how to do that. If anyone has any idea please let me know I'd really like to get the title pages fixed.--Cierst (talk) 17:41, 18 October 2009 (UTC) So, uh, why do the title charts display both Title:/Title/, and /Title/, as separate entries? —ASCADAIHAN (talk) 15:09, 17 June 2021 (CDT)

Wonky Title Stuff

Pending

These are awaiting answers from other staff and/or Lyneya. Will update when I hear back! DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)

• There are two sets of requirements for 'Horse Whisperer' and one has 13 requirements where the other has 2.
• There are two sets of requirements for 'Darkness' and one has 4 requirements where the other has none.
• Moon Mage titles 'Shadow Magician' and 'Shadow Weaver' require an unknown spell (Shadow Web?)
  • Checking with moonie folks to clarify. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Moon Mage title 'Transducer' requires 99 spells from the Enlightened Geometry list. Probably meant to be 9.
  • Asking Lyneya + Moonie folks for clarification here. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Ranger Title:Arch Hunter vs Title:Arch Huntress has an order of magnitude difference in Scouting required, I would have expected equal values.
• Title:Beast Tamer has two different Outdoorsmanship requirements.

Resolved

• Paladin titles that use Soulstate go by SAF, which seems odd.
  • Other guilds may have referenced SAF -- they should all now say 'guild resource' now as a more player-friendly term. It's different for every guild, and has different ranges/meanings for each guild, and there's not an easy way to mass-define this clearly for TITLE FIND. For some guilds, a negative resource (behind the scenes) is good, for others positive is good. Soul State, Divine Outrage, Confidence, Elemental Charge, Shock, Devotion, and Ranger Bonus are some (but not all) guild resource examples. This may just have to be a nebulous thing players piece together with trial and error over time. Sorry! -- DR-ZADRAES (talk) 05:52, 16 June 2021 (CDT)
• Barbarian Mage Bane title says they "Must not know Barbarian ability - (#9)."
  • Revised messaging on this one to show **Unknown** before the ability #. Mage Bane points to an old ability, currently. A list of titles with this sort of indication would be handy for Lyneya's review/tweaks. -- DR-ZADRAES (talk) 05:52, 16 June 2021 (CDT)
• Titles that require a specific number of spells in the Air Manipulation book don't display correctly, output is 'Must have at least 1 spells in the Air Manipulati', example would be Elemental Soldier, Elemental Enforcer, etc.
  • This should be fixed, as well as a few other places where 'at least 1 Xs' might pop up. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Paladin Titles 'Chivalrous Shield', 'Chikuraga Ikamaye', 'Stura Arumiz', and 'Haalik Showldh' have the requirement 'self'?
  • This was an issue with how Protects were messaging. Should display properly now. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Title 'Beast Tamer' requires skill in Unknown
  • This was caused by trying to check the old Animal Lore skill, which was largely converted to outdoorsmanship. I recognize the title now has two outdoorsmanship requirements, but this will be something Lyneya tackles with her review. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• More just language feedback, for Wild Archer "At least 350 ranks in Highest Distance Weapon" is such a weird way to say Ranged Weapon.
  • It is weird! But not wrong! DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Own a home. Stuff like Indweller and Lodger shows up on my Premium title list AND I can use it, despite req saying you can't own a home. Checked both in and out of the province where I own it, wondering if it might have worked like Dweller and Denizen (not the case).
  • This should be fixed now. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Typo on line that considers "urbanity" where your home is located: Must have house in an location with urbanity greater than [number].
  • This should hopefully be fixed. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Title 'Greedy' in category 'Trader' 2nd requirement says 'At least 15 ranks per circle in Empathy'. As a trader, I have 0 Empathy but have access to this title
  • This should be fixed. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• All titles in 'Trader' category that require 'Trading' skill, state 'Guild Skill' instead. I assume it's referring to 'Trading' skill.
  • yeah, this is true of all the guilds — MMs have 'Guild Skill' instead of Astrology, empaths have 'Guild Skill' instead of Empathy, and so on. Ditto 'Guild Magic', that's just PM. —ASCADAIHAN (talk) 15:09, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
  • ^This. The same "skill" exists for everyone, you just see a different name in EXP depending on your guild -- Lunar Magic vs Elemental Magic vs Life Magic, etc. Same for guild skills -- Empathy vs Trading vs Summoning etc. Because everyone can look up everyone else's titles now, we can't easily translate the actual requirement vs who is checking TITLE FIND -- it'd be weird for trader titles to show they require 'Empathy' when an Emapth is checking. For clarity, substituting 'Guild Skill' and 'Guild Magic' made the most sense. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Some titles in 'Religion' category, like 'Follower', have a requirement of 'Must have 4 favors in a row'. Not too clear what that means, unless 4 favors in a row for a particular god.
  • Not a bug, and yes -- it means 4 in a row from the same god/goddess. DR-ZADRAES (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2021 (CDT)
• Moon Mage titles 'Scion' and 'Shadebringer' are not attainable by a Heritage House member who meets the skill requirements — apparently Heritage House is not valid for the "must have sect" requirement. This might could be clarified.
  • Never mind — these are Children of Kalestraum titles! Sneaky, sneaky! ASCADAIHAN (talk) 07:18, 21 June 2021 (CDT)

Representing total of combination of stats

Ranger Title Title:Trail_Runner has a combination of stats as a requirement, is there a way to denote that without using the other title req category? --CALLEK (talk) 10:51, 16 June 2021 (CDT)

Not currently based on the documentation or poking at the code itself. --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2021 (CDT)