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The '''Alchemy craft''' is the overarching [[crafting]] system that covers the [[Remedies discipline|Remedies]], [[Reactants discipline|Reactants]], and [[Cooking discipline|Cooking]] disciplines.
Currently being '''beta''' tested in [[Platinum]]. [[Alchemy_(old)|'''Visit here''']] For information about the alchemy system currently live [[Prime]].<br>

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The '''Alchemy craft''' is the overarching [[crafting]] system that covers the [[Remedies discipline|Remedies]], [[Poisons discipline|Poisons]], and [[Cooking discipline]]s.<br>
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All crafts within it utilize the [[Alchemy skill]].
All crafts within it utilize the [[Alchemy skill]].


[[Healing herbs]] are obtained through [[foraging]]. Catalysts are obtained through both [[foraging]] and [[mining]]. There will be more options in the future that include bone.
==Tools==

==Alchemy Quirks==

- 100 wisdom appears to reduce crafting times by ~10% for a single product with top-end tools, when compared to 10 wisdom.
- Agility and strength may have a lesser effect.


==Tools==
Alchemy currently uses hand-held [[Crafting Tools|tools]] to practice, such as a mortar and an pestle, mixing stick and cooking pot, and wayerd pyramid. Also included in the society halls are stationary tools to speed up the herb preparation processes, including dry presses and herb grinders.<br />
See [[Crafting Tools]] for more details.
See [[Crafting Tools]] for more details.


===Bugs Chart===
==Locations==
To pick up [[Work Orders]], buy [[Crafting_Tools#Alchemy|alchemy tools]] and make use of dry presses and herb grinders, the following locations are available:
* [[Alchemy Society (Crossing)|Crossing Alchemy Society]]
* [[Alchemy Society (Muspar'i)|Muspar'i Alchemy Society]]
* [[Alchemy Society (Riverhaven)|Riverhaven Alchemy Society]]
* [[Alchemy Society (Ratha)|Rathan Alchemy Society]]
* [[Alchemy Society (Shard)|Shard Alchemy Society]]


====Society Bugs====
==Bugs Chart==

===Society Bugs===
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!Bug!!Details!!Result
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|When asked about Restoration Acumen, Carmifex talks about the "Restorative Acument Technique".|| ||
|Alchemy Society Master's responses lack quotation marks and random letters when asked about crafts in other societies||"X sighs and says, lease, ask one of the other Society Masters about that."||
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|Riverhaven sells "grenich". That should be "genich".|| ||
|Alchemy Society Master's responses lack quotation marks and random letters when asked about techniques||"X sighs and asks, lease don't waste my time. Tell me the name of the [cuts off here]"||Fixed.
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|Shard sells "grenich". That should be "genich".|| ||
|No work orders available for very low levels of alchemy (due to lack of very easy crafts?).|| ||Seems to be working now!
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|When you first ask Lanshado for work and he has none for you, he says "I am sorry, but we have no work for you today. Please try again later.", when you ask him a second time he says "I am sorry, but you just received a work order. Try again a little later perhaps.".|| ||Fixed
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|No options for easy/challenging workorders at even 60 ranks, given the quality of tools, ingredients, and lack of techs make workorders unfinishable yet.|| ||Fixed
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|Salt sold in alchemist society cannot clean pyramids.|| ||Wire brushes repair pyramids, not salt. Not a bug.
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|Trainer doesn't respond to technique questions well due to lack of techs, weird wording there.|| ||Has proper responses
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|Trainer doesn't respond about specific techs.|| ||Now gives tech details
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|Red flowers removed from shop after last store update|| ||
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|Crossing society work orders pay out in Lirum|| ||
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====Crafting Bugs====
===Crafting Bugs===
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|All known bugs currently resolved.|| ||
|Typo in clearing mortar||[Do you really want to destroy the mortar's contents? Tilt it one more time to empty out them out.] - Extra 'out'||
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|{{com|POUR}}ing water does not work. You need to {{com|PUT}} it in the mortar|| ||
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|{{com|PUT}}ting water in the mortar uses all doses instead of one|| ||Fixed.
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|Extra space before water when trying to use water when you shouldn't||"You realize the[space][space]water is not required to continue crafting the X, so you stop"||
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|When you {{com|FILL}} your mortar with water, it won't add to the salve, but you can take it out of the mortar and put it back in to have it work.|| ||
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|Can't seem to {{com|BREAK}} apart ingredients. Using more than the required amount also doesn't make 'additional' remedy. You always make the amount you should make with the formula.|| ||You can currently {{com|MARK}} materials and then {{com|CUT}} them with scissors.
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|Terribly made remedies don't have any adjectives like terribly made forged goods (aka: no shattered, etc).|| ||
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|Messaging exists for smelling remedy, corresponding action can't be taken|| ||
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|Messaging exists for prompting to use a sieve, but tool not released|| ||Sieves Released
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|Pushing remedy with sieve doesn't work|| ||
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|Analyze doesn't yield reliable information for quality of output (may be due to low alchemy ranks) or what steps to do next when messaging occurs.|| ||[[Kodius]] said this was typical for all crafting at lower skill ranges.
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|Herbs (before and after crushing/drying) aren't recognized as materials when rummaging for materials.|| ||
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|Water obtained by filling a container stopped working|| ||Fixed
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|Adding second ingredient seems to not properly register in creation process.|| ||Now registers and you can continue creation process.
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|Amount of second ingredient added is not proportional to amount needed compared to first ingredient. You'll always add all of your second ingredient no matter how much is actually needed.|| ||
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|Final products named after primary ingredient used, not product made||Might not be a bug||Some crafts now reflect what it does, while others are named after what is used in the product.
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|Can't use maker's marks on remedies|| ||Can't be done due to system limitation.
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|Can't combine water|| ||
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|Camb Pyramids, used indoors, will function, but not award alchemy xp. ||May not be an indoor/outdoor issue but rather a material to be dried issue. The item used that was not awarding alchemy exp was blue flowers. Have not been able to test Camb Pyramids, indoors, with an herb that is confirmed to award xp outdoors. ||
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|Items don't seem to always indicate they're dried||Red flowers (and possibly other herbs?) drying in a pyramid didn't show they were dried until they were removed, combined, and cut into new portions||
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====Other Bugs====
===Other Bugs===
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|Wrong information in A Foreword on Remedy crafting from the alchemy society crafting book. || Says when its time to craft the remedy to put water in first, which is wrong. ||
|Instructions say remedies can be prepared using a cooking pot and stirring rod to mix. Stirring rods from the forging shop message that they can only be used to mix a crucible, and no other types of stirring rods are available from the alchemists society. Mixing sticks sold as part of "alchemist kits or from the general alchemy shops do not work and cooking pots are not sold by the crafting society.|| ||Crucible rods and alchemy rods may not be the same tool. Mixing sticks and cooking pots don't work yet because that portion of alchemy isn't rolled out yet.
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|crushed blocil is turning into crushed muljin || ||
|Instructions on how to dry materials don't give instructions under STUDY and instead attempt to have you memorize the design as if it was a regular item being created. Should work more like how study works for making ingots, refining metal, etc.|| ||Fixed.
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|You are certain that the dried cebi is known to heal external scars .| (dried cebi root isn't registering as healing anything) || ||
|There is a lack of consistency in noun usage between remedy and remedies||Book is remedy (sometimes!), but that doesn't work in other areas like asking about techs, etc...||
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|Remedy book typos||Foreword - paragraph 1(P1) sentence 6(S6) word 18(W18) "beggins" should be "begging". P4 S1 W9 "waeryd" should be "wayerd". P5 S1 W1 "soluabiliity" should be "solubility". P6 S7 W1 "you" should be "You".<br><br>Chapter 1, page 1 - P2 S2 W11 "seive" should be "sieve"<br><br>"sieve" appears to be spelled "seive" throughout the book||
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|Deeded materials could be more specific.||Blocil pulp becomes a "pulp deed" instead of a "blocil deed", for example. The tap shows it as "a deed for some blocil pulp" but still harder to grab out of a container than necessary.||
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|Deeded materials only show quality and nothing else (no quantity or workability).|| ||
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|Deeded catalysts don't give catalyst-related information yet (so no extra details on a deeded coal, etc)|| ||
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|Herbs (before and after crushing/drying) aren't recognized as materials when rummaging for materials.|| ||
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|Water obtained by filling a container stopped working|| ||Fixed
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|Adding second ingredient seems to not properly register in creation process.|| ||Now registers and you can continue creation process.
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|Amount of second ingredient added is not proportional to amount needed compared to first ingredient. You'll always add all of your second ingredient no matter how much is actually needed.|| ||
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|Final products named after primary ingredient used, not product made||Might not be a bug||
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|When you combine two salves together they literally disappear|| ||Fixed
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|Can't apply itch salve||Says to drink. When you try to drink, says to apply. etc.||
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===Item Conversions Needed===
===Item Conversions Needed===
Please place any items that you believe:
Please place any items that you believe (1) should have been converted to a different quality ('''NOTE:''' Most older alchemy tools from festivals, regular stores, and events ''should'' become store quality, but cambrinth pyramids (for example) should all be masterful auction quality. If you have an item that is not a cambrith pyramid but you believe is still meant to be rare/special/auction/etc, list it below.) or (2) are related to herbs/alchemy that need to be converted to properly work within the system.<br/>
# Should have been converted to a different quality ('''NOTE:''' Most older alchemy tools from festivals, regular stores, and events ''should'' become store quality, but cambrinth pyramids (for example) should all be rare-metal quality. If you have an item that is not a cambrith pyramid but you believe is still meant to be better, list it below.) or
# are related to herbs/alchemy that need to be converted to properly work within the system.<br/>
'''NOTE:''' Items are sometimes not converted until they are used - you might not initially see crafting tool stats on a previously vaulted item. Once it is used, it should convert.
'''NOTE:''' Items are sometimes not converted until they are used - you might not initially see crafting tool stats on a previously vaulted item. Once it is used, it should convert.
* {{ilink|i|green linen sack embroidered with a horn-of-plenty}}: currently produces pre-Alchemy herbs and potions.
* {{ilink|i|green linen sack embroidered with a horn-of-plenty}}: currently produces pre-Alchemy herbs and potions.
* {{ilink|i|small powder-blue sack}}: Sack from [[Fenwyrthie's Curio Shop]] that contains cebi root and hisan salve.
* {{ilink|i|small powder-blue sack}}: Sack from [[Fenwyrthie's Curio Shop]] that contains cebi root and hisan salve.
* <s>{{ilink|i|Alchemist's glass beaker}}</s>: Festival sold container (7/24/13: This converted ok, just needed to stir with a current mixing stick)

* <s>{{ilink|i|glass mixing stick}}</s>: Festival sold mixing stick (7/24/13: This converted ok, just needed to stir a current alchemy bowl/cauldron/etc.)
{{Cat|Creation Systems,GM Assistance Articles}}
* {{ilink|i|polished steel herb clippers}}: Festival item that seems like it should be scissors.
* {{ilink|i|pine alchemist's tool crate}}: Sold in the Grey Raven Commissary. Converted to standard quality (should probably be higher)
* {{ilink|i|glass rod}}: not wanting to convert to a mixing stick when used
* {{ilink|i|carved bamboo mixing stick}}: not wanting to convert to a mixing stick when used. (Tasidon Safari item?)
* {{ilink|i|bamboo-edged wayerd pyramid}} - soulbound from Tasidon Island gift, currently is well-crafted, was a special item, suggest that it would have converted to a higher quality
{{RefAl}}
{{Cat|Creation systems,GM assistance articles}}

Latest revision as of 10:47, 30 October 2023


The Alchemy craft is the overarching crafting system that covers the Remedies, Reactants, and Cooking disciplines.

All crafts within it utilize the Alchemy skill.

Healing herbs are obtained through foraging. Catalysts are obtained through both foraging and mining. There will be more options in the future that include bone.

Alchemy Quirks

- 100 wisdom appears to reduce crafting times by ~10% for a single product with top-end tools, when compared to 10 wisdom. - Agility and strength may have a lesser effect.

Tools

Alchemy currently uses hand-held tools to practice, such as a mortar and an pestle, mixing stick and cooking pot, and wayerd pyramid. Also included in the society halls are stationary tools to speed up the herb preparation processes, including dry presses and herb grinders.
See Crafting Tools for more details.

Locations

To pick up Work Orders, buy alchemy tools and make use of dry presses and herb grinders, the following locations are available:

Bugs Chart

Society Bugs

Bug Details Result
When asked about Restoration Acumen, Carmifex talks about the "Restorative Acument Technique".
Riverhaven sells "grenich". That should be "genich".
Shard sells "grenich". That should be "genich".

Crafting Bugs

Bug Details Result
All known bugs currently resolved.

Other Bugs

Bug Details Result
Wrong information in A Foreword on Remedy crafting from the alchemy society crafting book. Says when its time to craft the remedy to put water in first, which is wrong.
crushed blocil is turning into crushed muljin
(dried cebi root isn't registering as healing anything)

Item Conversions Needed

Please place any items that you believe:

  1. Should have been converted to a different quality (NOTE: Most older alchemy tools from festivals, regular stores, and events should become store quality, but cambrinth pyramids (for example) should all be rare-metal quality. If you have an item that is not a cambrith pyramid but you believe is still meant to be better, list it below.) or
  2. are related to herbs/alchemy that need to be converted to properly work within the system.

NOTE: Items are sometimes not converted until they are used - you might not initially see crafting tool stats on a previously vaulted item. Once it is used, it should convert.

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