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Bestiary Level List

How does the table generate values for things like min/max rank caps? If I edit an individual critters page to update the min/max caps, will it reflect in the table, or do I have to edit the table itself? I can't seem to figure out how to do the latter. If it doesn't auto-update, is there an easy way to make that happen?--Luckysevens 18:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

The Bestiary Level List is automatically populated by data from the individual creature pages. --Isharon 05:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

What Ish said. It draws it's data from each of the individual critter pages. If you edit those, then it will alter the table, though there may be some lag between the two. If you do make an edit and it never seems to pop up, then edit the level list page, make no edits, then save it. That should refresh it. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 05:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha, looks like I was just being impatient. :) Thanks! --Luckysevens 18:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Shard alchemy shop pyramid

So I have an item that is purchased from a shop catalog, and the catalog link is just 'Wayerd pyramid', but when you buy it, you get 'a bone-trimmed wayerd pyramid'. The shop link currently points to a generic 'wayerd pyramid' item page. Want me to go ahead and just make up the correct item and let you worry about the shop link? The shop is Shard's Osut'vie. --Kythryn 06:19, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Shop is fixed. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 06:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Item is made too. I've made a note how you did that in case I come across something else like that again. --Kythryn 06:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Great. Happy to help! -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 06:32, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

alchemy-ish items

Ok, new question before I start in on my next round of adding in new alchemy stuffs. Bottles, jars, jugs. Things like this are useful in alchemy now for consolidating water from a fresh water source, but they don't have any analyze to them because they aren't tools. I'll be making a note of how many parts of liquid each will contain in my sandbox notes, do you want me to add that as a 'free text' note to the e-pedia listings too? And since they are alchemy-ish, I want to make sure you want them tagged with the 'alchemy' property as well (even though they aren't tools).
And, in practice, jugs & bottles are the same thing (containers with 'stoppers'), do you want separate top pages for these if we consider them 'alchemy tools' or do we have just a single top page and mention in the descriptive text there are different types (jugs, bottles, beakers, etc.)?
Also, I was working to bring in-line all the primary alchemy tool pages to match the Wayerd pyramid page and saw that the Unlonchai bucket page had been redirected to unlonchai bucket. Can I go ahead and put it back to the Unlonchai bucket so that it matches the other tool top pages?
Thanks! --Kythryn 05:38, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

If the jugs, bottles, etc. are no longer used for mixing or anything but collecting water, then they're not alchemy tools, they're just odd containers, so go ahead and pull off the alchemy tags. Go ahead and pick a generic term if they all act the same, just note they come in a variety of forms. Go ahead and add container amount, no issues there.

From now on, assume that if it doesn't have an analyze, it's not a tool (for those crafts that are released) unless you can think of a good idea why not. My preference would be to err on the side of labeling too many things, rather than too few, as it would be far harder to dig through "not tools" looking for the "semitools" compared to just skipping over a couple of "semitools" when going through the tool list. However, I'll leave it to your judgement.

For ease of use, if an item is used in one of the old crafts, but not the new ones (for those released) don't label it as a tool for that craft. For example, the tincture jars (at least, I don't think they're used now, ignore if they are). Eventually the supply of old herbs/etc. will be gone and they won't be usable, but by then we'll probably have forgotten.

Also, go ahead with the bucket page, make a top page, as I expect they'll start coming in a variety of forms like the pyramids, eventually. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 13:34, 24 July 2013 (UTC)