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== "What to climb" tables ==
== "What to climb" tables ==


I made a few adjustments to the {{tlink|ClimbTable}} and {{tlink|ClimbItem}} templates, to make the tables sortable and clean up excess line breaks. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 12:54, 4 November 2007 (CST)
I made a few adjustments to the ClimbTable and ClimbItem templates, to make the tables sortable and clean up excess line breaks. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 12:54, 4 November 2007 (CST)

:Hey! Nice work! I was driving myself crazy trying to get rid of that extra line break on the last column of the tables. --[[User:Kraelyst|Kraelyst]] 17:37, 4 November 2007 (CST)

Yeah, it was the difference between this:
<pre></noinclude>
<includeonly></pre>
and this:
<pre></noinclude><includeonly></pre>
in the code for ClimbItem and ClimbTable. At first I thought it was a bug, but after thinking about it, it makes perfect sense. Anything '''not''' enclosed in <nowiki><noinclude> tags will be part of the code, so that line break after </noinclude></nowiki> was part of the template. Wikicode can be damned maddening at times :P --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 22:55, 4 November 2007 (CST)
:ClimbItem and ClimbTable templates have been combined into the {{tlink|ListHeader}} and {{tlink|ListItem}} templates. These work identically to the old climbing/swimming templates, except that they also work equally well for Swimming and Escaping (once we set up a list for that skill, that is.) Also got rid of that annoying newline bug once and for all, which was caused by the noinclude/includeonly tags between the two templates.--[[User:Symphaena|Symphaena]] 22:45, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

== New system ==

Any idea yet how the Top Cap values apply to the new Practice system? The boulder in Haven west wilds (assuming the one near the gap to the tunnels) is apparently too simple for me to practice on, and I've only 66 ranks. Though climb and move on still nets me some decent learning on the steps, ladders, and mound inside Haven. [[User:FuIru|FuIru]] 21:48, 29 October 2008 (CDT)

== Map Links ==

Added a few links to Ranik's Maps. Originally I was going to match the map links to the location column as was already in place in the Ratha section, but then I noticed the Swimming skill article had the links on the far left column. In the interests of aesthetics and internal consistency, I decided to mimic that article's layout. Not sure of some of the locations and which map to use, walls/embrasures/crenellations in particular. Also I know little about the Qi and Forfedhdar so I'm not inclined to hunt for the map links on those climbables (many of which seem to missing from the list in this article anyway). [[User:Valtur|Valtur]] 22:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== {{com|climb|climb practice}} as Limit for Items ==

What do you folks think about using the "Too easy"/"Too hard" messaging in {{tt|Climb Practice}} to rank climbing items. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 11:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== {{com|climb|{{tt|climb practice}}}} as Limit for Items ==

What do you folks think about using the "Too easy"/"Too hard" messaging in {{tt|Climb Practice}} to rank climbing items. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 11:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

== {{com|climb|{{tt|climb practice}}}} for climb difficulty listing on the main Climbing Page ==

I tend to use climb practice for training, and have done so almost exclusively since it's release. One thing that I think would be nice would be columns showing the information on the same areas to climb. I don't want to mess with the formatting here to start one, since it would literally double the data columns. Anyways, would be nice for a central listing for items based on the range of ranks that are trainable using climb practice on each object. --[[User:Aristrondr|Aristrondr]] 03:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
<br /><br />I just started a table in my user space [[User:Aristrondr]]. All I'm doing is looking for data on climb practice. Since it's a ternary switch (too trivial - no train!, too hard - no train!, woo - train!), progression is a bit harder to just sort of find, so I started a table there that uses the same format here. Bottom cap is the lowest skill it will let you start training, Top Cap is the highest skill before it stops letting you climb practice on it. Haven't read/tried anything with weapons yet, but that's there too.--[[User:Aristrondr|Aristrondr]] 16:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


== Climbing with weapons ==

I just found a post from Dartenian, from 2008 that states that climbing with items in your hands does not impact learning. In my testing, I have also found this to be the case. Is there some other source of information that contradicts this? I'm not sure why the table has a separate column for this. Also, I don't know how to link a forum post to epedia? Thanks! --[[User:Luckysevens|Luckysevens]] 18:43, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

This should hopefully link to the page I was referring to: Dart's second post on that page.
: Just past a link straight onto the page. I'll transfer the post to epedia when you do. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

:http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Abilities,%20Skills%20and%20Magic/Survival%20Skills%20-%20Getting%20There/view?beginning_post_id=1&ending_post_id=1231&page=1 --[[User:Luckysevens|Luckysevens]] 06:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:: That shows me a large range of posts. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 07:13, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:: Sorry, this is the post: http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Abilities,%20Skills%20and%20Magic/Survival%20Skills%20-%20Getting%20There/view/95 --[[User:Luckysevens|Luckysevens]] 21:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


== Merging with new Athletics page ==

Is it okay if I just copy/paste and edit the information from this page into the new Athletics page? Is there any reason we couldn't do this with the other combined skills, such as Locksmithing or Stealth? Thanks! --[[User:Luckysevens|Luckysevens]] 21:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:08, 13 August 2013

"What to climb" tables

I made a few adjustments to the ClimbTable and ClimbItem templates, to make the tables sortable and clean up excess line breaks. --Farman 12:54, 4 November 2007 (CST)

Hey! Nice work! I was driving myself crazy trying to get rid of that extra line break on the last column of the tables. --Kraelyst 17:37, 4 November 2007 (CST)

Yeah, it was the difference between this:

</noinclude>
<includeonly>

and this:

</noinclude><includeonly>

in the code for ClimbItem and ClimbTable. At first I thought it was a bug, but after thinking about it, it makes perfect sense. Anything not enclosed in <noinclude> tags will be part of the code, so that line break after </noinclude> was part of the template. Wikicode can be damned maddening at times :P --Farman 22:55, 4 November 2007 (CST)

ClimbItem and ClimbTable templates have been combined into the {{ListHeader}} and {{ListItem}} templates. These work identically to the old climbing/swimming templates, except that they also work equally well for Swimming and Escaping (once we set up a list for that skill, that is.) Also got rid of that annoying newline bug once and for all, which was caused by the noinclude/includeonly tags between the two templates.--Symphaena 22:45, 19 April 2008 (CDT)

New system

Any idea yet how the Top Cap values apply to the new Practice system? The boulder in Haven west wilds (assuming the one near the gap to the tunnels) is apparently too simple for me to practice on, and I've only 66 ranks. Though climb and move on still nets me some decent learning on the steps, ladders, and mound inside Haven. FuIru 21:48, 29 October 2008 (CDT)

Map Links

Added a few links to Ranik's Maps. Originally I was going to match the map links to the location column as was already in place in the Ratha section, but then I noticed the Swimming skill article had the links on the far left column. In the interests of aesthetics and internal consistency, I decided to mimic that article's layout. Not sure of some of the locations and which map to use, walls/embrasures/crenellations in particular. Also I know little about the Qi and Forfedhdar so I'm not inclined to hunt for the map links on those climbables (many of which seem to missing from the list in this article anyway). Valtur 22:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

CLIMB PRACTICE as Limit for Items

What do you folks think about using the "Too easy"/"Too hard" messaging in CLIMB PRACTICE to rank climbing items. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 11:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

CLIMB PRACTICE as Limit for Items

What do you folks think about using the "Too easy"/"Too hard" messaging in CLIMB PRACTICE to rank climbing items. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 11:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

CLIMB PRACTICE for climb difficulty listing on the main Climbing Page

I tend to use climb practice for training, and have done so almost exclusively since it's release. One thing that I think would be nice would be columns showing the information on the same areas to climb. I don't want to mess with the formatting here to start one, since it would literally double the data columns. Anyways, would be nice for a central listing for items based on the range of ranks that are trainable using climb practice on each object. --Aristrondr 03:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I just started a table in my user space User:Aristrondr. All I'm doing is looking for data on climb practice. Since it's a ternary switch (too trivial - no train!, too hard - no train!, woo - train!), progression is a bit harder to just sort of find, so I started a table there that uses the same format here. Bottom cap is the lowest skill it will let you start training, Top Cap is the highest skill before it stops letting you climb practice on it. Haven't read/tried anything with weapons yet, but that's there too.--Aristrondr 16:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


Climbing with weapons

I just found a post from Dartenian, from 2008 that states that climbing with items in your hands does not impact learning. In my testing, I have also found this to be the case. Is there some other source of information that contradicts this? I'm not sure why the table has a separate column for this. Also, I don't know how to link a forum post to epedia? Thanks! --Luckysevens 18:43, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

This should hopefully link to the page I was referring to: Dart's second post on that page.

Just past a link straight onto the page. I'll transfer the post to epedia when you do. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 18:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Abilities,%20Skills%20and%20Magic/Survival%20Skills%20-%20Getting%20There/view?beginning_post_id=1&ending_post_id=1231&page=1 --Luckysevens 06:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
That shows me a large range of posts. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 07:13, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, this is the post: http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Abilities,%20Skills%20and%20Magic/Survival%20Skills%20-%20Getting%20There/view/95 --Luckysevens 21:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


Merging with new Athletics page

Is it okay if I just copy/paste and edit the information from this page into the new Athletics page? Is there any reason we couldn't do this with the other combined skills, such as Locksmithing or Stealth? Thanks! --Luckysevens 21:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)