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The '''Alchemy craft''' is the overarching [[crafting]] system that covers the [[Remedies discipline|Remedies]], [[Reactants discipline|Reactants]], and [[Cooking discipline|Cooking]] disciplines.
: '''Note: The alchemy system is being updated to a brand new system. While this is occurring, this page may be out of date or contradictory.'''


All crafts within it utilize the [[Alchemy skill]].
The general term in [[DragonRealms]] for improving the quality of a substance, or changing one substance into another. The most commonly known process makes [[Healing herbs|herbs]] more potent or changes them into potions, salves, tea, or other forms. Other processes also exist to create non-herbal substances such as [[poisons]] or [[Brewing Tea|tea]].


[[Healing herbs]] are obtained through [[foraging]]. Catalysts are obtained through both [[foraging]] and [[mining]]. There will be more options in the future that include bone.
==Herbal Alchemy==
There are three basic steps to creating herbal potions.


==Alchemy Quirks==
# Gather ingredients
# Prepare ingredients
# Mix ingredients


- 100 wisdom appears to reduce crafting times by ~10% for a single product with top-end tools, when compared to 10 wisdom.
===Ingredients===
- Agility and strength may have a lesser effect.
Basic herbal alchemy requires three ingredients: an herb, a [[catalyst]], and water. The basic mix is done in a 1:1:1 ratio, or equal parts of each. Adding more catalyst is ok, since the unused portion will be left as a remainder. Potions can be successfully mixed at other ratios of herb to water but at present there is no benefit to doing so.


==Tools==
For water locations, visit [http://kythsjournal.com/water.htm Kythryn's Journal].
Alchemy currently uses hand-held [[Crafting Tools|tools]] to practice, such as a mortar and an pestle, mixing stick and cooking pot, and wayerd pyramid. Also included in the society halls are stationary tools to speed up the herb preparation processes, including dry presses and herb grinders.<br />
See [[Crafting Tools]] for more details.


==Locations==
====Pieces vs. Parts====
To pick up [[Work Orders]], buy [[Crafting_Tools#Alchemy|alchemy tools]] and make use of dry presses and herb grinders, the following locations are available:
A '''piece''' of a substance is an individual inventory item, listed separately when you look into your container.
* [[Alchemy Society (Crossing)|Crossing Alchemy Society]]
<pre>In the dark gem pouch you see some georin grass, some georin grass, and some georin grass.</pre>
* [[Alchemy Society (Muspar'i)|Muspar'i Alchemy Society]]
In the above example, there are three '''pieces''' of georin grass in the pouch.
* [[Alchemy Society (Riverhaven)|Riverhaven Alchemy Society]]
* [[Alchemy Society (Ratha)|Rathan Alchemy Society]]
* [[Alchemy Society (Shard)|Shard Alchemy Society]]


==Bugs Chart==
'''Parts''' measure the quantity inside a single piece, and this is what is important for alchemy. Use the [[Count command|{{tt|COUNT}} command]] to tell how many parts are in a given piece of something:
<pre>>count geor grass in my dar pouch
There's five parts left of the georin grass.</pre>


===Society Bugs===
Many basic alchemy ingredients are foraged in small pieces with only one or two parts. And very frequently it is necessary to change the size of your herb and catalyst pieces so they are the same. You can [[Combine command|{{tt|COMBINE}}]] two smaller pieces of a solid substance into a larger one, and [[Break command|{{tt|BREAK}}]] them to make them smaller. Liquids such as water are combined and broken via the [[Pour command|{{tt|POUR}}]] verb.

===Preparation===
The more [[Foraging skill]] you know, the more potent your herbs will be. Potency is also improved if the herb was foraged carefully or precisely. For the most potent herbs, you need a skilled forager to gather them precisely.

Most experienced alchemists agree that all herbs are made even more potent by drying them. This can be done either by using a {{ilink|i|Wayerd pyramid}} or by having a [[Ranger]] perform the proper [[Beseech the Sun to Dry|Beseech]]. So the second step to making a good potion is to dry your herbs, although it is not required. In many cases, the simple dried herb is more potent than the herb will be in potion form, so you can stop right there. The herbs that are improved by making into potion are [[georin]], [[eghmok]], [[nilos]], [[blocil]], and [[hulnik]].[http://www.kythsjournal.com/herblist.htm] Catalysts are also generally improved by drying, although the effect of this is more subtle.

The next step if you are going to continue and make the potion is to crush the herb using a [[item:Mortar|mortar]] and [[item:Pestle|pestle]] so it is in a mixable form. Undried herbs will yield a pulp when crushed, and dried herbs a powder or paste. You must also crush your catalyst for the same reason.

Next gather some [[item:water|water]] from a convenient spot, and you're ready to mix.

===Mixing===
Count out your ingredients carefully into equal-sized pieces, and place them all together in your {{ilink|i|mixing bowl|mixing vessel}}. There is no size limit on potions, larger potions require more skill to mix together, Rangers are better than all other classes at mixing. Your potion will not combine if there are any extra or foreign ingredients in the vessel. Note that a wax label counts as an item inside a container so your mixing vessel won't work if it has a label on it. The only thing inside your vessel should be one piece of the crushed herb, one piece of the crushed catalyst, and one piece of water <small>(see [[Alchemy#Pieces vs. Parts|Pieces vs. Parts]] above)</small>.
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The size of your completed potion will be the same as the part count of the individual ingredients. If your ingredients have five parts each, your finished potion will have five parts. As noted above, if you start with a larger chunk of catalyst than your water and herb, only the required amount will be used with the rest left over.
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Many different containers can be used as a mixing vessel if you don't have a proper mixing bowl. Empty gem pouches and treasure boxes are popular choices. Just {{com|mix}} container WITH [[item:mixing stick|mixing stick]] or close the container and {{com|Shake}}.


Injuries to the hands, arms, eyes, and head can interfere with Alchemy so heal up if you are having trouble.

===Tinctures===
{{ilink|i|Tincture jar}}s are a way to make dried herbs even more potent, precise dried herbs are best. A single dose lasts 5 minutes.

You need one part of herb to four parts [[item:Grain_alcohol|alcohol]], which currently is obtainable by purchase from some alchemy shops.

The process take an [[Elanthian Time|anlas]], and involves shaking the jar once every ten [[Elanthian Time|roisaen]]. Tinctures are intended for external use only, and are poisonous when ingested although that method of use has the most healing power.

===Known Alchemy Recipes===
*[[Aloe|Aloe Balm]]
*[[Catalyst|Dracon crystals/oil]]
*[[Lujeakave|Lujeakave Elixir]]
*[[Aevaes|Aevaes Solution]]
*{{sloot|i|Jalbreth balm}}

==Useful Commands==
*{{com|Break}}
*{{com|Crush}}
*{{com|Combine}}
*{{com|Count}}
*{{com|Mix}}
*{{com|Pour}}
*{{com|Shake}}

==Tools==
* {{ilink|i|Wayerd pyramid}}
* {{ilink|i|Unlonchai bucket}}
* {{ilink|i|Stove}}
* {{ilink|i|Mortar}} and {{ilink|i|pestle}}
* {{ilink|i|Mixing bowl}} and [[item:Mixing_stick|mixing stick]], or other vessel (pouch, box, etc)
* [[item:Silver_vial|Vial]] or Jar to hold water
* {{ilink|i|Tincture jar}}
[[Category:Creation Systems]]

==New Alchemy==
Currently being '''beta''' tested in [[Platinum]].

===Bugs Chart===
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!Bug!!Details!!Result
!Bug!!Details!!Result
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|When asked about Restoration Acumen, Carmifex talks about the "Restorative Acument Technique".|| ||
|Alchemy Society Master's responses lack quotation marks and random letters when asked about crafts in other societies||"X sighs and says, lease, ask one of the other Society Masters about that."||
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|Riverhaven sells "grenich". That should be "genich".|| ||
|Alchemy Society Master's responses lack quotation marks and random letters when asked about techniques||"X sighs and asks, lease don't waste my time. Tell me the name of the [cuts off here]"||Fixed.
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|Shard sells "grenich". That should be "genich".|| ||
|Typo in clearing mortar||[Do you really want to destroy the mortar's contents? Tilt it one more time to empty out them out.] - Extra 'out'||
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===Crafting Bugs===
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!Bug!!Details!!Result
|Need 'very easy' difficulty items|| ||Fixed.
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|All known bugs currently resolved.|| ||
|Collected herbs all have the same quality||May be a feature, not bug||
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===Other Bugs===
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!Bug!!Details!!Result
|{{com|POUR}}ing water does not work. You need to {{com|PUT}} it in the mortar|| ||
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|{{com|PUT}}ting water in the mortar uses all doses instead of one|| ||Fixed.
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|No work orders available for very low levels of alchemy (due to lack of very easy crafts?).|| ||
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|When you first ask Lanshado for work and he has none for you, he says "I am sorry, but we have no work for you today. Please try again later.", when you ask him a second time he says "I am sorry, but you just received a work order. Try again a little later perhaps.".|| ||Fixed
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|Extra space before water when trying to use water when you shouldn't||"You realize the[space][space]water is not required to continue crafting the X, so you stop"||
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|When you {{com|FILL}} your mortar with water, it won't add to the salve, but you can take it out of the mortar and put it back in to have it work.|| ||
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|Can't seem to {{com|BREAK}} apart ingredients. Using more than the required amount also doesn't make 'additional' remedy. You always make the amount you should make with the formula.|| ||You can currently {{com|MARK}} materials and then {{com|CUT}} them with scissors.
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|Instructions say remedies can be prepared using a cooking pot and stirring rod to mix. Stirring rods from the forging shop message that they can only be used to mix a crucible, and no other types of stirring rods are available from the alchemists society. Mixing sticks sold as part of "alchemist kits or from the general alchemy shops do not work and cooking pots are not sold by the crafting society.|| ||Crucible rods and alchemy rods may not be the same tool. Mixing sticks and cooking pots don't work yet because that portion of alchemy isn't rolled out yet.
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|Instructions on how to dry materials don't give instructions under STUDY and instead attempt to have you memorize the design as if it was a regular item being created. Should work more like how study works for making ingots, refining metal, etc.|| ||Fixed.
|-
|Salt sold in alchemist society cannot clean pyramids.|| ||Wire brushes repair pyramids, not salt. Not a bug.
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|Terribly made remedies don't have any adjectives like terribly made forged goods (aka: no shattered, etc).|| ||
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|No options for easy/challenging workorders at even 60 ranks, given the quality of tools, ingredients, and lack of techs make workorders unfinishable yet.|| ||
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|While crushing, the messaging exists for use of a sieve and smelling, but there aren't corresponding actions that can be taken (nor tools available).|| ||
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|There is a lack of consistency in noun usage between remedy and remedies||Book is remedy (sometimes!), but that doesn't work in other areas like asking about techs, etc...||
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|Analyze doesn't yield reliable information for quality of output (may be due to low alchemy ranks) or what steps to do next when messaging occurs.|| ||[[Kodius]] said this was typical for all crafting at lower skill ranges.
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|Trainer doesn't respond to technique questions well due to lack of techs, weird wording there.|| ||Has proper responses
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|Trainer doesn't respond about specific techs.|| ||Now gives tech details
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|Remedy book typos||Foreword - paragraph 1(P1) sentence 6(S6) word 18(W18) "beggins" should be "begging". P4 S1 W9 "waeryd" should be "wayerd". P5 S1 W1 "soluabiliity" should be "solubility". P6 S7 W1 "you" should be "You".<br><br>Chapter 1, page 1 - P2 S2 W11 "seive" should be "sieve"<br><br>"sieve" appears to be spelled "seive" throughout the book||
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|Deeded materials could be more specific.||Blocil pulp becomes a "pulp deed" instead of a "blocil deed", for example. The tap shows it as "a deed for some blocil pulp" but still harder to grab out of a container than necessary.||
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|Deeded materials only show quality and nothing else (no quantity or workability).|| ||
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|Herbs (before and after crushing/drying) aren't recognized as materials when rummaging for materials.|| ||
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|Water obtained by filling a container stopped working|| ||
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|Adding second ingredient seems to not properly register in creation process.|| ||Now registers and you can continue creation process.
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|Wrong information in A Foreword on Remedy crafting from the alchemy society crafting book. || Says when its time to craft the remedy to put water in first, which is wrong. ||
|Amount of second ingredient added is not proportional to amount needed compared to first ingredient. You'll always add all of your second ingredient no matter how much is actually needed.|| ||
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|crushed blocil is turning into crushed muljin || ||
|Final products named after primary ingredient used, not product made||Might not be a bug||
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|You are certain that the dried cebi is known to heal external scars .| (dried cebi root isn't registering as healing anything) || ||
|When you combine two salves together they literally disappear|| ||
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|}


===Item Conversions Needed===
===Item Conversions Needed===
Please place any items that you believe:
Please place any items that you believe (1) should have been converted to a different quality ('''NOTE:''' Most older alchemy tools from festivals, regular stores, and events ''should'' become store quality, but cambrinth pyramids (for example) should all be masterful auction quality. If you have an item that is not a cambrith pyramid but you believe is still meant to be rare/special/auction/etc, list it below.) or (2) are related to herbs/alchemy that need to be converted to properly work within the system.<br/>
# Should have been converted to a different quality ('''NOTE:''' Most older alchemy tools from festivals, regular stores, and events ''should'' become store quality, but cambrinth pyramids (for example) should all be rare-metal quality. If you have an item that is not a cambrith pyramid but you believe is still meant to be better, list it below.) or
# are related to herbs/alchemy that need to be converted to properly work within the system.<br/>
'''NOTE:''' Items are sometimes not converted until they are used - you might not initially see crafting tool stats on a previously vaulted item. Once it is used, it should convert.
'''NOTE:''' Items are sometimes not converted until they are used - you might not initially see crafting tool stats on a previously vaulted item. Once it is used, it should convert.
* {{ilink|i|green linen sack embroidered with a horn-of-plenty}}: currently produces pre-Alchemy herbs and potions.
* {{ilink|i|green linen sack embroidered with a horn-of-plenty}}: currently produces pre-Alchemy herbs and potions.
* {{ilink|i|small powder-blue sack}}: Sack from [[Fenwyrthie's Curio Shop]] that contains cebi root and hisan salve.
* <s>{{ilink|i|Alchemist's glass beaker}}</s>: Festival sold container (7/24/13: This converted ok, just needed to stir with a current mixing stick)
* <s>{{ilink|i|glass mixing stick}}</s>: Festival sold mixing stick (7/24/13: This converted ok, just needed to stir a current alchemy bowl/cauldron/etc.)
* {{ilink|i|polished steel herb clippers}}: Festival item that seems like it should be scissors.
* {{ilink|i|pine alchemist's tool crate}}: Sold in the Grey Raven Commissary. Converted to standard quality (should probably be higher)
* {{ilink|i|glass rod}}: not wanting to convert to a mixing stick when used
* {{ilink|i|carved bamboo mixing stick}}: not wanting to convert to a mixing stick when used. (Tasidon Safari item?)
* {{ilink|i|bamboo-edged wayerd pyramid}} - soulbound from Tasidon Island gift, currently is well-crafted, was a special item, suggest that it would have converted to a higher quality
{{RefAl}}
{{Cat|Creation systems,GM assistance articles}}

Latest revision as of 09:47, 30 October 2023


The Alchemy craft is the overarching crafting system that covers the Remedies, Reactants, and Cooking disciplines.

All crafts within it utilize the Alchemy skill.

Healing herbs are obtained through foraging. Catalysts are obtained through both foraging and mining. There will be more options in the future that include bone.

Alchemy Quirks

- 100 wisdom appears to reduce crafting times by ~10% for a single product with top-end tools, when compared to 10 wisdom. - Agility and strength may have a lesser effect.

Tools

Alchemy currently uses hand-held tools to practice, such as a mortar and an pestle, mixing stick and cooking pot, and wayerd pyramid. Also included in the society halls are stationary tools to speed up the herb preparation processes, including dry presses and herb grinders.
See Crafting Tools for more details.

Locations

To pick up Work Orders, buy alchemy tools and make use of dry presses and herb grinders, the following locations are available:

Bugs Chart

Society Bugs

Bug Details Result
When asked about Restoration Acumen, Carmifex talks about the "Restorative Acument Technique".
Riverhaven sells "grenich". That should be "genich".
Shard sells "grenich". That should be "genich".

Crafting Bugs

Bug Details Result
All known bugs currently resolved.

Other Bugs

Bug Details Result
Wrong information in A Foreword on Remedy crafting from the alchemy society crafting book. Says when its time to craft the remedy to put water in first, which is wrong.
crushed blocil is turning into crushed muljin
(dried cebi root isn't registering as healing anything)

Item Conversions Needed

Please place any items that you believe:

  1. Should have been converted to a different quality (NOTE: Most older alchemy tools from festivals, regular stores, and events should become store quality, but cambrinth pyramids (for example) should all be rare-metal quality. If you have an item that is not a cambrith pyramid but you believe is still meant to be better, list it below.) or
  2. are related to herbs/alchemy that need to be converted to properly work within the system.

NOTE: Items are sometimes not converted until they are used - you might not initially see crafting tool stats on a previously vaulted item. Once it is used, it should convert.

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