Talk:Gwethdesuan (obsolete)
Question: I rolled an empath a little while back and noticed that while he had access to use a Jadeite Gwethdesuan as soon as I could get him one, he couldn't use either a Kyanite Gwethdesuan or an Albredine Crystal Ring. (Receiving message "Nothing seems to happen.") Does anyone know the requirements for, at the least, the use of a Kyanite Gwethdesuan? It would be useful information to edit into the main article. --Bedan 21:16, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
- Were you able to receive messages? I've never heard of a requirement to just listen.
-Glimmereyes 22:25, 13 March 2008 (CDT) - Nope. No reception at all. I wish I could provide more information, but this will have to do to start. Since I'm Premium, I have a good number of really low level characters to test with. The two factors I focused on as being the solution were MD and Discipline, with Concentration also playing a role. I'm thinking it's a combination of both. I have two characters that get that message. On one character I have 2 MD, 22 Discipline, and 94 concentration. The second character has 39 MD, 11 Discipline, and 66 Concentration. It does not work on either of them. I also have a character with 17 Discipline, 104 Concentration, and 69 MD, and it works for him. My trader, Bedan, also uses both devices. His discipline is also in the 20s, but he only has 25 MD. I'm hoping this might help.
--Bedan 14:13, 14 March 2008 (CDT)- MD can't play a part since Barbs are able to use Gweths and any points in MD would mess them up. I thought Commoners could use them aswell which would rule out a Circle req, but can't say that I've ever tried myself. I vaugly remember Riddler was a Commoner and he held contests over the gweth, but that was ages ago and they may have added a Circle req.
-Glimmereyes 19:13, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
- MD can't play a part since Barbs are able to use Gweths and any points in MD would mess them up. I thought Commoners could use them aswell which would rule out a Circle req, but can't say that I've ever tried myself. I vaugly remember Riddler was a Commoner and he held contests over the gweth, but that was ages ago and they may have added a Circle req.
- Back before the conc changes, it was mentioned on the play.net forums that k gweths had a circle req. I assume that was a de facto sort of thing, since at the time stats alone did very little for your concentration. I know I was using them with less than 80ish concentration, though I didn't get my first ones until like 20th circle or so. Got enough TDPs to raise Character #2's discipline by 3 points? That should put you at 75, which is a likely cutoff point.--Symphaena 18:38, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
Regarding the "just wore a Kyanite" sentence, it is my opinion that this is only an opinion and should not be included within this page. We may continue to state such beliefs as this within the game proper, but until such time as the majority of characters only wear a Kyanite and not a Jadeite gweth, such minority opinions should either be completely eliminated from the page or given a separate section labeled "Opinions regarding the use of gweths." --Amagaim 16:37, 14 July, 2009 (CDT)