Talk:Perceive health
Anyone know if what you detect is based off empathy or power perception?
- Both. It's a simple average of the two skills, probably forming a base effective rank upon which all the other modifiers are applied. 50 PP and 0 Empathy is functionally the same as 39 PP and 11 Empathy, which is to say you're probably lucky to see even one non-hidden empath in 2000 attempts.--Symphaena 22:40, 10 April 2008 (CDT)
I'm playing an Empath character for the first time in a while, and came to this page to find how how much skill is needed for various success levels with perceive health. For instance, it first started working sporradically for my Empath at 25 empathy and 25 power perceive, and I'm wondering when the character will be able to perceive NPC's, non-empaths, et cetera. If this information is available, and if anyone else sees the need, it would be awesome to have it added to this article. Prime-Lorzelophia 18:24, 12 April 2008 (CDT)
Not sure when I started to notice creatures. I am at the point now that I am noticing empaths in adjacent rooms. I have 93 empathy, 160 power perceive. --Khazera 18:41, 12 April 2008 (CDT)
| PP/Emp Average | Ability |
|---|---|
| 25 | empath, same room |
| 50 | non-empath, same room |
| 75 | critter, same room |
| 100 | details (disease, vitality, etc), same room |
| 125 | empath, +1 room away |
| 150 | non-empath, +1 room away |
| 175 | critter, +1 room away |
| 200 | details (disease, vitality, etc), +1 room away |
- I am very sure of the first item in that table (empaths same room = 25 rank average).
- With 163 Emp and 120 PP (141 rank average), as far as I know Symphaena in prime can still only see empaths 1 room away, which follows the table still. Another 19 ranks should prove this.
Obviously we need more data points, but from my perspective it doesn't look like the progression varies any. Basically, every 200 ranks you should be able to gain 1 more room out. --Symphaena 23:06, 12 April 2008 (CDT)
Ya, 125 sounds just right for when I started to see empaths in the next room. Great work Symphaena!
Holy crap, you guys are amazingly speedy. I know I could've just asked on the Simu forums but maybe eventually having it in the article will help some other future empath newb. Thanks for satisfying my curiousity! Prime-Lorzelophia 02:06, 13 April 2008 (CDT)