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Why can unoficial groups be houses but not empires. Please change the header back from family to Empire, or make ALL unofficial houses clans etc. Families. Also my revisions were approved by solomon, you had no reason to make additional changes.

Re:page name change. Please see the main page news feed for a link to this very discussion already in progress. Family based organizations being changed to their family name is a system organizational change that will very likely be occuring, but constructive feedback is welcome.

Re:edits to the page. The edits were all wiki structural edits, and not content edits despite several instances of innuendo remaining. One of which was even edited back in after Solomon's response by the way.

Also as a general note, GMs are not strictly the highest level of moderation, or even moderators at all. See Elanthipedia:Administrators for more explanation. That said, if a GM weighs in with a moderation, particularily one that makes sense, the administrators are likely going to agree with it. I am a bit surprised Solomon even made an appearance to be honest. I'm glad he did, however, since it solved the dilemma I was having over how best to handle the over the top innuendo.--ABSOLON (talk) 09:40, 25 January 2015 (CST)

Crafting material pages

So I thought I was making up the BONE item pages the same as how you'd made up the METAL item pages, but now I see you're starting to do re-directs on them to other page names. First off, sorry! Guess I should have just done one and gotten you to look it over first. So, with that in mind, do you want to go ahead and do the first leather item up (right now, looks like Antelope skin), so I have a template to do the other leather items that way too so that you won't have to go back and fiddle them later? Not trying to make more work for you...:) --Kythryn 14:51, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I'm still testing it, trying to find the way that makes the most sense. Metals and stones are fairly simple, as they always are obvious what they are. Skin and bones isn't always quite so straightforward. I list them in stack form for a couple reasons:

1. So people can easily match what's in their pack to crafting stats.
2. Because some skin/bones we can't actually attribute to a specific creature yet or come from multiple creatures.
3. Because some skin/bones is very oddly named.
4. Because some similarly named items might end up being very different (Snow Goblin bones might end up different than Elven Pixie Forest and Plains Goblin bones) and so having a Goblin Bone page could cause issues.

That being said, this is a wiki and not my personal little fiefdom, so if you think you have a better way to do it, PLEASE give it a shot. I watch all the changes on the site (or at least try), so even if I disagree and change it, some part of your idea may end up being far better. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 19:01, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

You may not claim the title, but we all know: You're king of the Elanthipedia Kingdom...:).

So, on the stack vs. no-stack thing, I see where you're coming from. But, on the flip side of that, if you're looking to match what is in a pack, why not lumium shard or silk cloth or onyx rock? I mean, the only thing you can (currently) pick up from it's name is a prepared healing herb (ie. crushed belradi moss becomes crushed belradi), everything else you see as a "cloth" or an "ingot" or whatever. (not trying to be difficult here, but seems like the other materials already have their "qualifier" stripped off, so why not with Bone & Leather too).

And, we do already have Goblin Bone and Pale Goblin Bone (thanks to Antendren checking a snow goblin question I had) so I do suspect that if the GM's release something from 2 similar creatures, they will give it a separate name. Hopefully. Probably. Maybe.

At the end of the day, I don't really care how we proceed with this, I'm happy to help populate everything. --Kythryn 00:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

And because I'm just itching to do something with this tonight it seems, I have been playing around with Caracal-pelt Leather, including the base pelt and made a test table under the COMMON LEATHER section on the Crafting Materials page. Let me know what you think, make changes, etc. Thanks! --Kythryn 03:32, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Perfect! -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 06:07, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

ugh, sorry I didn't get all those leather crafting supplies finished up yet but I did guilt Anuind into getting me samples of all the remaining common leather skins and have them tanned. So, I am (hoping!) to finish that up this coming weekend. That being said, I'd posted on the forums, and will add this to the "crafting feedback" page too, but since there are currently 2 common skins that turn into "some azure-scale leather", each with different stats, should I go ahead and make "some azure-scale leather (1)" and "some azure-scale leather (2)", and a master "disambig" page like this link for both?

http://www.elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Weapon:Black-bladed_bastard_sword_with_a_silver_gryphon_atop_the_cross-guard

--Kythryn 06:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Works for me. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 12:57, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Ugh, looks like some red-links are still on the crafting materials page from the server transfer. Also, there are some naming things going on when you look at the Crafting Materials#Rare Leather, sometimes it is an item other times it is just a page. I don't think I'll be re-visiting this in the near future, however if you want to let me know the page naming standard you want for things, if it hasn't been done by the time I motivate, I'll be happy to go through and standardize and follow-up on the red-links. --Kythryn 15:33, 25 January 2015 (CST)

Crossing Temple Festival

So, when I was working on the choryu cake page, I found an archived folder on my backup drive that had a bunch of documents I'd made from various festivals over years before sweet, sweet epedia came along (heh). I'll work my way through updating things over the next week from them, but I found one that epedia doesn't have (I don't think anyhow, I couldn't find anything with searches) a category and/or festival page set up for yet. In 2001, the "new" Crossing temple was opened and there were about 15 merchants that set up on the grounds. Did you want to set that category & festival page up? Or create the red-links here and I'll populate them next time I sit down to document? Thanks! --Kythryn 10:52, 13 January 2015 (CST)

Yeah, I think it was too early for Epedia and too late for DFP, or something around there. Just keep 'em redlinked until you put something in there. -CARAAMON (talk) 16:11, 13 January 2015 (CST)

Whew, your TALK page is getting long! Popular fella...:). Going to put a quick note on these sub-topics I've addressed so you can clean your "inbox" up if you want.

Linett got me motivated to finish this, I think she dug up the Sputkin tent or something. So, I guess this is done pending edits: Temple Reopening. --Kythryn 15:14, 25 January 2015 (CST)

Hib Barbarian shop

Heya! I'm updating some of the Hib stuff, and in the Barbarian guild, there is a door that looks like is Barb-only and it looks to be a shop.

>look door

Polished into the brushed bronze of the door are letters that spell out, "Kvaren's".

It is open.

>go doo

A large hand reaches out from behind the curtain and blocks your entrance. A burly guard mutters to you, "Just where, do you think yer goin? This shop is fer members of the Guild only."

I don't know how often you get out of Crossing, but if you're ever out this way, or you know a Barb in the area, might have them pop over and document the stuff? From the street, go boulder, go door, go grey arch, east, SE, east. That puts you in the room to GO DOOR to the shop. --Kythryn 16:06, 31 January 2015 (CST)