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Spawning from [https://discord.com/channels/619301383451181075/619364324233838593/1010010554892558376 This post by GM Zadraes on the official Discord] Binu and I (Mahtra) collated the suggestions that players made in that thread, we cleaned them up, re-worded and merged them. The Impact Rating field is entirely subjective, based on our opinion at the time this page is created. Where possible, names of those who suggested were kept, unless multiple people suggested the same/similar things.
Spawning from [https://discord.com/channels/619301383451181075/619364324233838593/1010010554892558376 This post by GM Zadraes on the official Discord] Binu and I (Mahtra) collated the suggestions that players made in that thread, we cleaned them up, re-worded and merged them. The Impact Rating field is entirely subjective, based on our opinion at the time this page is created. Where possible, names of those who suggested were kept, unless multiple people suggested the same/similar things.
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==Alchemy==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
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| Multiple people || Add herbs to societies: Blue Flowers, Hulij Leaves, Dioica Sap, Belradi Moss, qun pollen (also normalize blue/red flowers across all societies) || high - allows progression of training || Remedies ||
| Nideya || Increase access to, and availability of rare materials || low - "would be nice if" || all ||
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| Binu/CU || Allow crafting of Mortars, bellows, clamps, bowls, and any tool a player may need for crafting || High - some items can be hard to find, raising the barrier of entry into these professions || Remedies, forging ||
| Vlachodimos || Add at least one Tier 12 recipe to artificing. There's currently none and it makes learning in the 1500+ range much slower and impossible to get hard work orders at that point too || high - allows progression of training || Enchanting ||
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| Multiple people || Herb to cure disease. <s> Combo herbs for wounds the way we have cebi and hisan for scars." </s>|| <s>high - Help necros out here</s > low || Remedies || marram, flamestalk, dioica, and belradi released and cover all wounds and scars. Two MT options that cover all wounds/scars as well.<br/ >Necromancer spell [[Resection]] released which gives necromancer a way to self-cure disease, reducing the priority for a herb option.
| Mahtra || Enchanting could do with a speed brazier template. Enchanting could do with not requiring sigil farming (which is extremely painful at the top tiers) The sigil minigame is neat and all, but punishing too. || low - brings braziers in line with other tools that have speed and quality templates || Enchanting ||
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| Hanryu || Allow foraging in all rooms with presses/grinders for herbs. || medium - If I had to choose, I'd rather have the herbs available in societies, but this is an either/or to that in a way. || Remedies ||
| Multiple people || RT reductions (with commensurate rewards reductions?) || low - this would just be nice to have at this stage || all ||
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| Kythryn || Release uncommon, rare and very rare base herbs to increase the potency & efficacy of current Remedy patterns. || low - not needed for training however the discipline doesn't have much variation in results except based off skill & catalysts. || Remedies ||
| Scrounger || Custom recipe books so we can scribe commonly used patterns and not need to carry all books around all the time. || low - This could be an awesome MT item... || all ||
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| Kythryn || Offer a technique that allows freshly foraged herbs to offer a small amount of healing (ala. the old foraging system) || low - not needed for training however in the past, being able to forage and eat your own herbs immediately was a "gateway", promoting an interest into Alchemy. || Remedies ||
| Multiple people || Carving lockpicks brought into Engineering || medium - Thief lockpick carving is a wasted "class" thing at the moment. || Engineering ||
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| Nawain || Add toggle to display remedies as <herb> <remedy type> or <body location> <remedy type> || low - not necessary, but many people have substitutions to show, as an example, nemoih unguent instead of head unguent || Remedies ||
| Malkien || Carreer/Hobby reset option || medium - QoL for incomplete systems || all ||
|}

==Blacksmithing==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
|<s> Multiple people </s>||<s> Add secondary sigils to enchanting societies </s>||<s> high - allows progression of training </s>||<s> Enchanting || Done in TT131
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| Sekmeht || Mining versions of the Techniques for Lumberjacking in [[Shaping_techniques]]. Basic Mining, Improved Mining, and Mineral Enlightenment. These would help improve yields, decrease the chance of disasters striking, yield higher-quality ore, and make rare ore more readily identifiable during mining. || Medium || Blacksmithing ||
| Multiple people || Add herbs to societies: Blue Flowers, Hulij Leaves, Dioica Sap, Belradi Moss, qun pollen (also normalize blue/red flowers across all societies) || high - allows progression of training || Remedies ||
|}

==Enchanting==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
| Inneth || Perceiving sigils whilst remaining invisible please || low - Can have Social Outrage implications || enchanting || TT131 allows harvesting whilst invisible, which is immensely appreciated. This ask is to bring `perc sigil` in line with `perc mana` which can be done wholly whilst invisible.
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| Vlachodimos || Add at least one Tier 12 recipe to artificing. There's currently none and it makes learning in the 1500+ range much slower and impossible to get hard work orders at that point too || high - allows progression of training || Enchanting ||TT216 adds a T12 recipe, but doesn't address the core of this request, since braziers can't really be used in workorders.
| Binu/CU || Craftable consumables (pins, oil, lotion, stain, hilts, etc). These not being master crafted causes problems with the higher tier templates combined with low workability materials. || high - high tier recipes are impossible without || multiple crafts ||
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| <s>Mahtra</s>|| <s>Enchanting could do with a speed brazier template. Enchanting could do with not requiring sigil farming (which is extremely painful at the top tiers) The sigil minigame is neat and all, but punishing too.</s>|| <s>low - brings braziers in line with other tools that have speed and quality templates</s>|| <s>Enchanting</s>||Done in TT216
| Binu/CU || Separate registers (or sections in the main register) for leather, cloth, bone, stone, wood, and metal. || medium - Akin to other games having crafting dedicated containers || multiple crafts ||
|-
|-
|<s> Multiple people </s>||<s> Add secondary sigils to enchanting societies </s>||<s> high - allows progression of training </s>||<s> Enchanting </s>|| Done in TT131
| Binu/CU || Allow crafting of Mortars, bellows, clamps, bowls, and any tool a player may need for crafting || High - some items can be hard to find, raising the barrier of entry into these professions || Remedies, forging ||
|-
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| Inneth || Perceiving sigils whilst remaining invisible please || low - Can have Social Outrage implications || enchanting || TT131 allows harvesting whilst invisible, which is immensely appreciated. This ask is to bring `perc sigil` in line with `perc mana` which can be done wholly whilst invisible.
| Multiple people || Herb to cure disease. Combo herbs for wounds the way we have cebi and hisan for scars." || High - Help necros out here || Remedies ||
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| Kali||Make Shard supply room crate items match Crossing - specifically the wand.|| Low - QOL increase but not system-breaking || Enchanting ||
| Multiple people || Do something with advanced marks. Maybe an automated system for people to choose "custom" marks like 2021 HE's gift? || low - This might be a neat TT by itself, but in terms of things broken in crafting... this is low priority || Forging ||
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| Zorthuric||Bring back astral guide creation|| Low - Cool Factor || Enchanting ||
|}


==Engineering==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
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| Multiple people || Carving lockpicks brought into Engineering || medium - Thief lockpick carving is a wasted "class" thing at the moment. || Engineering ||
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| Multiple people || Allow reclamation of crafted materials, such as Stone, bone, leather, cloth || Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. || Carving/Tailoring ||
| Multiple people || Allow reclamation of crafted materials, such as Stone, bone, leather, cloth || Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. || Carving/Tailoring ||
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| Multiple people || Allow combining of Stone pieces || Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. || Carving/Tailoring ||
| Multiple people || Allow combining of Stone pieces || Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. || Carving/Tailoring ||
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| Scrounger || bone and stone tools || low - Carving knives specifically are just terrible in both bone/stone. Lots of options here for tools templates, plenty of unused and unusable bone/stone || all ||
| Hanryu || Allow foraging in all rooms with presses/grinders for herbs. || medium - If I had to choose, I'd rather have the herbs available in societies, but this is an either/or to that in a way. || Remedies ||
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| Kythryn || <s> Engineering wand </s> || <s> low - a [[forge wand]] but with a table saw & gear press instead. Alternately, update new forge wands so you can TURN them to choose which set of tools you want (forge, engineering, outfitting or alchemy) that mirror the stationary ones at the crafting halls. </s> || <s> Engineering </s> || Released as MT item.
| Hanryu ||Renta-forge (instanced forges) in all locations|| medium || Forging ||
|}

==Forging==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
| Kali||Make Shard supply room crate items match Crossing - specifically the wand.|| Low - QOL increase but not system-breaking || Enchanting ||
|-
| Binu/CU || Allow crafting of Mortars, bellows, clamps, bowls, and any tool a player may need for crafting || High - some items can be hard to find, raising the barrier of entry into these professions || Remedies, forging ||
|-
| Multiple people || Do something with advanced marks. Maybe an automated system for people to choose "custom" marks like 2021 HE's gift? || low - This might be a neat TT by itself, but in terms of things broken in crafting... this is low priority || Forging ||
|-
| <s>Hanryu</s> ||<s>Renta-forge (instanced forges) in all locations</s>|| <s>medium</s> || <s>Forging</s> || Looks to have been done across multiple TTs. Tracked at [[Crafting_halls]]
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| Kythryn ||Different renta-forge (instanced forges) portals from free access|| medium || Forging ||At least in the case of the Shard forge, the rent-forge portals are "doors" and the standard free portals are also a "door". So if you are not paying attention and just "go door", instead of say "go hickory door" and you have the coin on you, you just pop into the rentable one. I'd like to see either the rent ones turned into some other portal type (ie. arch, gap, alcove, etc.) or have a short confirmation RT placed on entering so you need to do a confirm "go door" if you want the rent space instead of the free one.
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| <s>Hanryu</s> ||<s>T12 armorsmithing products at 100 vols or less</s> || <s>high</s> || <s>Forging</s> || Done in TT190
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| Zorthuric||Bring back astral guide creation|| Low - Cool Factor || Enchanting ||
|}
|}


==Outfitting==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
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| Multiple people || Allow reclamation of crafted materials, such as Stone, bone, leather, cloth || Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. || Carving/Tailoring ||
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|Binu
|Add autoloot container instructions to the tailoring book that cap out at smaller sizes than the MT/rare ones. Maybe the craftable range could be somewhere around 25-50 items.
|Medium
|Tailoring (leather and cloth)
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==All & Multiple Disciplines==
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! From !! suggestion !! impact rating !! related craft !! Notes
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| Nideya || Increase access to, and availability of rare materials || low - "would be nice if" || all ||
|-
| Multiple people || RT reductions (with commensurate rewards reductions?) || low - this would just be nice to have at this stage || all ||
|-
| Scrounger || Custom recipe books so we can scribe commonly used patterns and not need to carry all books around all the time. || low - This could be an awesome MT item... || all ||
|-
|<s> Malkien </s> || <s> Carreer/Hobby reset option </s>||<s> medium - QoL for incomplete systems </s>||<s> all </s>|| Done in TT140
|-
| Binu/CU || Craftable consumables (pins, oil, lotion, stain, hilts, etc). These not being master crafted causes problems with the higher tier templates combined with low workability materials. || high - high tier recipes are impossible without || multiple crafts || New HE447 shop [[More Tool You]] provides some access to better consumables. No crafted option yet as of HE447
|-
| Binu/CU || Separate registers (or sections in the main register) for leather, cloth, bone, stone, wood, and metal. || medium - Akin to other games having crafting dedicated containers || multiple crafts ||
|-
| Hanryu || Crafting buffs should operate like all other buffs. ie: fix the bug where they _show_ 20% in exp mods, but are actually only 1/2 strength || high || multiple crafts ||
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| Sekmeht || NMU's (Barbarian/Thief) need an ability to at least obtain a 20% buff natively. The 11% boost from PHOK wands produces a big disadvantage at cap. || high || multiple crafts ||
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| Sekmeht || Balancing of T12 templates with materials. It's pretty silly to not be able to complete some items fully capped out with techniques (1750 ranks) in a craft but not be able to complete the "hardest" combinations of instructions and materials || high || multiple crafts ||
|}
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Latest revision as of 23:06, 18 November 2024

Spawning from This post by GM Zadraes on the official Discord Binu and I (Mahtra) collated the suggestions that players made in that thread, we cleaned them up, re-worded and merged them. The Impact Rating field is entirely subjective, based on our opinion at the time this page is created. Where possible, names of those who suggested were kept, unless multiple people suggested the same/similar things.

Alchemy

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Multiple people Add herbs to societies: Blue Flowers, Hulij Leaves, Dioica Sap, Belradi Moss, qun pollen (also normalize blue/red flowers across all societies) high - allows progression of training Remedies
Binu/CU Allow crafting of Mortars, bellows, clamps, bowls, and any tool a player may need for crafting High - some items can be hard to find, raising the barrier of entry into these professions Remedies, forging
Multiple people Herb to cure disease. Combo herbs for wounds the way we have cebi and hisan for scars." high - Help necros out here low Remedies marram, flamestalk, dioica, and belradi released and cover all wounds and scars. Two MT options that cover all wounds/scars as well.
Necromancer spell Resection released which gives necromancer a way to self-cure disease, reducing the priority for a herb option.
Hanryu Allow foraging in all rooms with presses/grinders for herbs. medium - If I had to choose, I'd rather have the herbs available in societies, but this is an either/or to that in a way. Remedies
Kythryn Release uncommon, rare and very rare base herbs to increase the potency & efficacy of current Remedy patterns. low - not needed for training however the discipline doesn't have much variation in results except based off skill & catalysts. Remedies
Kythryn Offer a technique that allows freshly foraged herbs to offer a small amount of healing (ala. the old foraging system) low - not needed for training however in the past, being able to forage and eat your own herbs immediately was a "gateway", promoting an interest into Alchemy. Remedies
Nawain Add toggle to display remedies as <herb> <remedy type> or <body location> <remedy type> low - not necessary, but many people have substitutions to show, as an example, nemoih unguent instead of head unguent Remedies

Blacksmithing

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Sekmeht Mining versions of the Techniques for Lumberjacking in Shaping_techniques. Basic Mining, Improved Mining, and Mineral Enlightenment. These would help improve yields, decrease the chance of disasters striking, yield higher-quality ore, and make rare ore more readily identifiable during mining. Medium Blacksmithing

Enchanting

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Vlachodimos Add at least one Tier 12 recipe to artificing. There's currently none and it makes learning in the 1500+ range much slower and impossible to get hard work orders at that point too high - allows progression of training Enchanting TT216 adds a T12 recipe, but doesn't address the core of this request, since braziers can't really be used in workorders.
Mahtra Enchanting could do with a speed brazier template. Enchanting could do with not requiring sigil farming (which is extremely painful at the top tiers) The sigil minigame is neat and all, but punishing too. low - brings braziers in line with other tools that have speed and quality templates Enchanting Done in TT216
Multiple people Add secondary sigils to enchanting societies high - allows progression of training Enchanting Done in TT131
Inneth Perceiving sigils whilst remaining invisible please low - Can have Social Outrage implications enchanting TT131 allows harvesting whilst invisible, which is immensely appreciated. This ask is to bring `perc sigil` in line with `perc mana` which can be done wholly whilst invisible.
Kali Make Shard supply room crate items match Crossing - specifically the wand. Low - QOL increase but not system-breaking Enchanting
Zorthuric Bring back astral guide creation Low - Cool Factor Enchanting


Engineering

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Multiple people Carving lockpicks brought into Engineering medium - Thief lockpick carving is a wasted "class" thing at the moment. Engineering
Multiple people Allow reclamation of crafted materials, such as Stone, bone, leather, cloth Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. Carving/Tailoring
Multiple people Allow combining of Stone pieces Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. Carving/Tailoring
Scrounger bone and stone tools low - Carving knives specifically are just terrible in both bone/stone. Lots of options here for tools templates, plenty of unused and unusable bone/stone all
Kythryn Engineering wand low - a forge wand but with a table saw & gear press instead. Alternately, update new forge wands so you can TURN them to choose which set of tools you want (forge, engineering, outfitting or alchemy) that mirror the stationary ones at the crafting halls. Engineering Released as MT item.

Forging

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Binu/CU Allow crafting of Mortars, bellows, clamps, bowls, and any tool a player may need for crafting High - some items can be hard to find, raising the barrier of entry into these professions Remedies, forging
Multiple people Do something with advanced marks. Maybe an automated system for people to choose "custom" marks like 2021 HE's gift? low - This might be a neat TT by itself, but in terms of things broken in crafting... this is low priority Forging
Hanryu Renta-forge (instanced forges) in all locations medium Forging Looks to have been done across multiple TTs. Tracked at Crafting_halls
Kythryn Different renta-forge (instanced forges) portals from free access medium Forging At least in the case of the Shard forge, the rent-forge portals are "doors" and the standard free portals are also a "door". So if you are not paying attention and just "go door", instead of say "go hickory door" and you have the coin on you, you just pop into the rentable one. I'd like to see either the rent ones turned into some other portal type (ie. arch, gap, alcove, etc.) or have a short confirmation RT placed on entering so you need to do a confirm "go door" if you want the rent space instead of the free one.
Hanryu T12 armorsmithing products at 100 vols or less high Forging Done in TT190

Outfitting

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Multiple people Allow reclamation of crafted materials, such as Stone, bone, leather, cloth Medium - This is extremely frustrating, especially for rarer materials. So much wastage. Carving/Tailoring
Binu Add autoloot container instructions to the tailoring book that cap out at smaller sizes than the MT/rare ones. Maybe the craftable range could be somewhere around 25-50 items. Medium Tailoring (leather and cloth)

All & Multiple Disciplines

Player Suggestions for Crafting
From suggestion impact rating related craft Notes
Nideya Increase access to, and availability of rare materials low - "would be nice if" all
Multiple people RT reductions (with commensurate rewards reductions?) low - this would just be nice to have at this stage all
Scrounger Custom recipe books so we can scribe commonly used patterns and not need to carry all books around all the time. low - This could be an awesome MT item... all
Malkien Carreer/Hobby reset option medium - QoL for incomplete systems all Done in TT140
Binu/CU Craftable consumables (pins, oil, lotion, stain, hilts, etc). These not being master crafted causes problems with the higher tier templates combined with low workability materials. high - high tier recipes are impossible without multiple crafts New HE447 shop More Tool You provides some access to better consumables. No crafted option yet as of HE447
Binu/CU Separate registers (or sections in the main register) for leather, cloth, bone, stone, wood, and metal. medium - Akin to other games having crafting dedicated containers multiple crafts
Hanryu Crafting buffs should operate like all other buffs. ie: fix the bug where they _show_ 20% in exp mods, but are actually only 1/2 strength high multiple crafts
Sekmeht NMU's (Barbarian/Thief) need an ability to at least obtain a 20% buff natively. The 11% boost from PHOK wands produces a big disadvantage at cap. high multiple crafts
Sekmeht Balancing of T12 templates with materials. It's pretty silly to not be able to complete some items fully capped out with techniques (1750 ranks) in a craft but not be able to complete the "hardest" combinations of instructions and materials high multiple crafts
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