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The explanation of charisma's effect on the teaching system is inconsistent with Dart's post [[Post:So_teaching_suppose_to_teach_little_expect_for_teaching%3F_-_12/21/2009_-_20:28:44|here]], or at the very least incomplete. If the teacher's charisma improves the student's learning, then it will also improve the teacher's learning. Similarly, the only way for the student's charisma to improve the teacher's learning is for it to improve the student's learning.--[[User:Antendren|Antendren]] 12:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC) |
The explanation of charisma's effect on the teaching system is inconsistent with Dart's post [[Post:So_teaching_suppose_to_teach_little_expect_for_teaching%3F_-_12/21/2009_-_20:28:44|here]], or at the very least incomplete. If the teacher's charisma improves the student's learning, then it will also improve the teacher's learning. Similarly, the only way for the student's charisma to improve the teacher's learning is for it to improve the student's learning.--[[User:Antendren|Antendren]] 12:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Fir Familiars == |
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Could someone confirm that Charisma no longer impacts a fir familiar's chance to drag their owner when he/she is stunned?--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 19:41, 10 August 2014 (CDT) |
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== Impact on contract trading == |
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Despite the GM post from 2002 (https://elanthipedia.play.net/Post:Trader_Guild_Releases_(Very_Long)_-_11/25/2002_-_11:49:18) which says that Charisma improves contract trading, I don't think that Charisma has ''any'' effect on contract prices (and presumably also Trading EXP). |
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Here's average contract price for Ilithi trading routes, holding Trading ranks constant, with different extreme levels of Charisma. Number of contracts tested are in parentheses. |
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{| class="wikitable" |
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! Trading Route |
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! 12 Charisma |
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! 138 Charisma |
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! Price % Diff |
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| Fayrin's Rest - Darkling Wood |
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| 25,145 (36) |
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| 26,015 (27) |
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| +3% |
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| Steelclaw Clan - Darkling Wood |
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| 22,198 (27) |
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| 22,921 (26) |
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| +3% |
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| Shard - Darkling Wood |
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| 21,041 (49) |
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| 22,808 (35) |
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| +8% |
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| Shard - Fayrin's Rest |
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| 9,426 (37) |
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| 9,276 (29) |
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| -2% |
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| Steelclaw Clan - Shard |
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| 5,821 (53) |
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| 5,375 (42) |
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| -8% |
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| Steelclaw Clan - Fayrin's Rest |
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| 4,627 (44) |
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| 4,672 (30) |
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| +1% |
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| '''AVERAGE:''' |
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| +1% |
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I wanted to test more to eliminate some of the noise, but a Test server resync threw a wrench in that (because Trading ranks definitely do matter). Regardless, I'm pretty sure that if Charisma had an effect, it would've been obvious with 12 vs 138 CHA even with this amount of testing. |
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It's theoretically possible that Charisma has some reasonable impact at lower Trading ranks (this testing done around 1,000 Trading). |
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--[[User:DOORKEEPERSSON|DOORKEEPERSSON]] ([[User talk:DOORKEEPERSSON|talk]]) 17:18, 13 April 2023 (CDT) |
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Latest revision as of 16:18, 13 April 2023
The explanation of charisma's effect on the teaching system is inconsistent with Dart's post here, or at the very least incomplete. If the teacher's charisma improves the student's learning, then it will also improve the teacher's learning. Similarly, the only way for the student's charisma to improve the teacher's learning is for it to improve the student's learning.--Antendren 12:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Fir Familiars
Could someone confirm that Charisma no longer impacts a fir familiar's chance to drag their owner when he/she is stunned?--ABSOLON (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2014 (CDT)
Impact on contract trading
Despite the GM post from 2002 (https://elanthipedia.play.net/Post:Trader_Guild_Releases_(Very_Long)_-_11/25/2002_-_11:49:18) which says that Charisma improves contract trading, I don't think that Charisma has any effect on contract prices (and presumably also Trading EXP).
Here's average contract price for Ilithi trading routes, holding Trading ranks constant, with different extreme levels of Charisma. Number of contracts tested are in parentheses.
| Trading Route | 12 Charisma | 138 Charisma | Price % Diff |
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| Fayrin's Rest - Darkling Wood | 25,145 (36) | 26,015 (27) | +3% |
| Steelclaw Clan - Darkling Wood | 22,198 (27) | 22,921 (26) | +3% |
| Shard - Darkling Wood | 21,041 (49) | 22,808 (35) | +8% |
| Shard - Fayrin's Rest | 9,426 (37) | 9,276 (29) | -2% |
| Steelclaw Clan - Shard | 5,821 (53) | 5,375 (42) | -8% |
| Steelclaw Clan - Fayrin's Rest | 4,627 (44) | 4,672 (30) | +1% |
| AVERAGE: | +1% |
I wanted to test more to eliminate some of the noise, but a Test server resync threw a wrench in that (because Trading ranks definitely do matter). Regardless, I'm pretty sure that if Charisma had an effect, it would've been obvious with 12 vs 138 CHA even with this amount of testing.
It's theoretically possible that Charisma has some reasonable impact at lower Trading ranks (this testing done around 1,000 Trading). --DOORKEEPERSSON (talk) 17:18, 13 April 2023 (CDT)