Talk:Wood

Elanthia Only Woods

Caraamon, I disagree with you that wood should be limited to only those unique to Elanthia. Everything that was there is found in Elanthia or in items, and could be foraged, used in alterations, or, eventually, used in the crafting system. Presumably the woods used in crafting, just like stone now, are going to have different properties. Additionally, as a resource for planning alterations, this list would show all that's available and would differentiate between real-wood woods that appear in Elanthia and those that do not (birdseye maple, hemlock, balsa, eucalyptus, etc). Finally, purpleheart, lacewood, haon, shaal, ironwood, and silverwillow are all real-world trees, too, while some that you removed are unique to Elanthia (fishtail oak, bricklebranch, taborwood, etc.) I think if you're going to make a distinction, it's going to get way too complicated. - Hrodberacht 03:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

If I deleted those unique to Elanthia, feel free to add them back in. When and if they are added into crafting systems, we can review it. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 09:29, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I still think it's lacking, though. Let's move this over to the Talk:Wood page; I think we need to hear some opinions other than our own. - Hrodberacht 17:11, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Weigh in on Wood

Please share your thoughts! Should this page attempt to list all of the known woods of Elanthia - that may be foraged, used in alterations, or (soon?) used in crafting - or should we attempt to list only woods that do not exist in the Real World? Much like the things that are going on in Stone, Metal, and Special Materials, this will help decide the direction for Materials pages. Where do we draw the line? Do we draw lines at all? - Hrodberacht 17:11, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

I think it would be worth having at least a list of Real World woods that can be used, just so players are aware which Real World woods are also in game and which aren't. TEVESHSZAT 02:56, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Agree with this, that it should be too hard to have a small table of woods, leave the longer descriptioned ones out of the table. MOST of the common woods without "descriptions" are not required for alterations too, so should make things easier. --Ysselt 04:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

As I read this, it strikes me that "pedia" is from the Greek paideia, meaning education, or culture. That being said, I would take that to mean that "Elanthipedia" would be literally, education on Elanthia. To have anything less than a fully comprehensive list, containing all the woods (or whatever we're talking about) found in the world of Elanthia seems to just negate the entire point of the site. After all, it seems that I read something about this in the front page "mission statement". StefynX 04:56, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

We could distinguish between Elanthia exclusive items, just have two different lists, but on the same page. I think that would make it both inclusive and complete, yet have the distinction at a glance. But I am for including all wood types in Elanthia, exclusive or not.--Naeya ^(talk) 05:13, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

My vote is to do what Naeya said, and we can leave the longer descriptions etc for the Elanthia only woods, and have less (or no) description for RL woods. --Hithrael 05:36, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree with the others. I'd like to see both Elanthia-only and real world woods listed, just with descriptions kept short and primarily for woods only found within the game. However, I think either a new type of table or guideline might be in order for materials if so. If they released appraisals for wood similar to metals, to coincide with carving, the page would quickly become just as much an eyesore as the metals page. (Oh! Nevermind. I see you just changed that page tonight. Great work!) --Anna Raven 09:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Very well, it seems most people would like to have other woods included. As a test case, go ahead and include those which are currently possible to find. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 04:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Currently possible to find as in "can be foraged," or currently found in Elanthia, period? The list I had compiled before was the latter of the two. - Hrodberacht 05:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

As in can be acquired in some manner in a raw form. In addition, feel free to add anything that has unique properties associated with it, behaves or is treated differently in Elanthia, or is significant for other reasons. Basically, only add things that have properties not covered by a Wikipedia page on them.-Moderator Caraamon Makdasi^(talk) 10:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Caraamon, but that's not the opinion contributors are expressing here. By and large, the comments above indicate a preference for including both, as Naeya wrote, "exclusive or not." I agree we don't need descriptions or properties for any Real World wood that has no uniquely Elanthian qualities, as most of the comments also say. However, I am going to include them all. I think the best solution for now is to go with two lists, as Naeya suggested. If the release of wood carving, etc, adds more information on all of the "other" woods then I see going somewhere in the direction that metals is, with a separate attribute-table page. - Hrodberacht 18:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)