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== Titles....ew ==

I'm going to TRY and adapt the titles to semanticwiki's dynamic form generation so as to make some of the category pages a little easier to maintain... but I have no idea if it'll work. Check the {{skill|Perception}} page, down at the bottom with the juggling items to see what I'm trying to do. Lemmie know what you think. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 01:26, 15 August 2008 (CDT)
: Ok, that's a great idea, because the load time on the pages currently with all the includes are horrible. LOL After this, I'd like to hit the Bestiary *groans* It needs to be done. Semantic Wiki will help LOADS with that, and if we add caps to the individual pages, the Bestiary level list can be made just like that juggling items, aye?--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 09:57, 15 August 2008 (CDT)
:: In theory..... we'll just have to see how messy it is in actual practice. Here's hoping. I'll work out the bugs with the simpler titles, then try bestiary once I've nailed it down. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 15:33, 15 August 2008 (CDT)
:::In regards to the bestiary stuff, take a look at the notes I made [[Category_talk:Bestiary#Bestiary_Semantics|here]] --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:38, 15 August 2008 (CDT)
::::Okay, go [[Title_test_page|here]] and tell me if this is what you envisioned, ignoring for now the formatting. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:02, 15 August 2008 (CDT)
:::::Hey, that's pretty swift. Make it happen! :D Oh and let me know if you need any help.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 21:57, 15 August 2008 (CDT)
:: I've been changing some of the titles over to use the TitleReq template instead of the extra pipes in the Title template. Should I undo what I've done, so that other pages can be changed to match [[Barbarian Titles]]? [[User:FuIru|FuIru]] 19:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:::That's more of a question for [[User talk:Caraamon|Caraamon]].--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::Speaking of load times, it looks like the Empath Titles page is timing out now, thanks to my conversions of the individual titles. Also times out trying to edit it to use the Ask. I apparently should have switched over to Ask on the titles page first... There an easy fix? [[User:FuIru|FuIru]] 02:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Fixed.Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 04:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==Redlink Directing==
Check [[Template_talk:ShopItem|here]] and lemmie know, please. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 01:30, 20 August 2008 (CDT)
:Okay, I have to put in a few more minor things, but after that it should work for MOST things. If you see something that isn't, poke me on my user page and I'll look into it. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:00, 20 August 2008 (CDT)

== Outcast ==

can we get a new catagory added to the npc's and pc's that will allow me to identify them as members of the outcast tribes?[[User:Alexii|Alexii]] 13:26, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
:For NPCs, you can enter that as one of the Types and throw in <nowiki>[[Category:Outcast]]</nowiki> at the bottom. PCs you can still use the Category link, but an addition to the Template for Order/Clan type info might be handy.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 15:44, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
::Done. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:59, 17 September 2008 (CDT)
Awesome[[User:Alexii|Alexii]] 14:35, 17 September 2008 (CDT)

== Titles ==

I have to admit, they're starting to tick me off. What do you think about moving them to their own namespace? I'm tired of having to filter them out of searches manually. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:24, 12 October 2008 (CDT)
:That would be a huge and tedious project. I guess we can do that. --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:48, 12 October 2008 (CDT)
::It would be, but no worse than the item conversion was. And the sooner we do it (if we do it) the easier it will be. I dunno, it's up to you as the owner whether that's the style you want. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:45, 12 October 2008 (CDT)
:::Do you still want a Title namespace, while I'm digging through this stuff? --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:05, 31 October 2008 (CDT)

== Versions ==

Seems we're behind on both the new versions of Semantic Forms and Semantic MediWiki. If you have a spare moment, could you upgrade? I think it might fix some problems I'm having with some of the forms. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 15:39, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
:Sure I'll do some upgrades across the board.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:06, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
::Ok those major extensions are updated.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:14, 31 October 2008 (CDT)

I haven't been keeping up with the MediaWiki releases. Do you think it would behoove us to upgrade to 1.13?--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:16, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
:As long as it doesn't cause something to explode, catch on fire, or require tech support, probably.-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 16:42, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
::The update seems to have broken some stuff. I'll fix it asap.-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 17:05, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
:::Let me know if there's anything I need to do on my end.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 17:10, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
::::Looks like the factboxes have been disabled, could you look into that? -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:04, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
::::I could...not sure where to begin looking. I haven't dug into this stuff in months. All I did on the upgrade was overwrite the files with the new ones and reinitialize SMW (as was instructed). Hmm..--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 18:05, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
::::OK found it. In the newest version of SMW, the Factbox is off by default. I turned it back on.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:04, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
::Oh crappola. I overwrote the old SMW_Settings.php... I'll need to fix it again for Namespaces.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:08, 31 October 2008 (CDT)
:::Welp, unless you do decide to update MediaWiki, I need you to redo this:[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms#The_.27edit_with_form.27_tab] -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 10:20, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::::The edit was still in place in Linker.php (oddly). I do plan on upgrading to 1.13 but I was going to wait til after the rush of edits from the fest.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 10:23, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::::Okay, edit with form is working again, but the item/weapon/armor/etc namespaces still aren't using factboxes or properties. Hope you enjoy this sort of thing, cause I'm about ready to strangle a goblin. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 12:13, 1 November 2008 (CDT)

:I re-added the namespaces to the SMW settings, I might have had it wrong before, it's been a LONG time since I last edited that file... umm did I screw it up to make "Osgeth's" factbox appear at the top of every page?--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 13:51, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::Seems to be fine now... I think. Thanks. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 14:02, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::Okay, still can't get the redlink to default to the correct forms. Can you check the linker once more? -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 14:14, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::::I double checked. The code is in place. This will have to wait until I upgrade the entire wiki. I'll probably do that before the end of the weekend, if I can find a lull in the activity.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 15:00, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::::I think I may have found a problem. Can you check and make sure the namespaces exist? Take a look at [[Item:Branded_leather_wristwrap_with_braided_straps]]. There's a wierd reference to "concept" at the bottom that I don't get. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 15:46, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::::They exists... check out [[Special:Search]]. However.. I think that the new version of SMF includes "Concepts" and it might have overwritten the namespace 108 (Item). Let me take a look. --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 15:49, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::::Yup, that's exactly what happened. Give me a few to sort it out. I don't want to have to move them all from Concept: to Item. --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 15:52, 1 November 2008 (CDT)

I've checked and double checked the includes and such. I have no idea why the factbox isn't working.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:26, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:Oh boy. All the items have been moved to the Concept namespace. That's gonna take a bit to fix. As for the fact box, um. As I recall, last time this happened it was because of the numbers that were assigned. Maybe? -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 16:32, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::I'm running some Semantic repairs if you notice the site sluggish. --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:42, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
I'm probably going to run the update on MediaWiki (to 1.13.2) VERY soon. I just don't want to do it in the middle of the day on a weekend while people are using it for the fest.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 16:58, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::Lemmie know if and what I can do to help.-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 17:39, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:I'm still not sure if I have the namespaces setup correctly in the SMW_Settings.php and I can't find anything that just doesn't say "add to the array". Meh I'm mad at myself for overwriting it. It's been so long, I forgot all the files I had customized.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 17:44, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::Hate to be a killjoy, but the factboxes for the namespaces are still gone. :P -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:22, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::How come this one shows? [[Weapon:Acid-etched_steel_horseshoe_stamped_with_the_crest_of_the_paladins%27_guild]]
::::WHOOO!!! Now one last problem and it'll be a good day. I can't make redlinks edit by form. Any clue?-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 18:32, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::::That I have no clue. If anything it will be fixed when I upgrade to 1.13.2 on Monday.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 18:39, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:::::Well this is interesting, the Item namespace has its redlinks connected correctly, but it seems weapons, shield and armor don't. -[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:01, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
::::::I have a feeling the update to SMW screwed us. I didn't think they added any new namespaces. *le sigh* I'm going to test with Shield as I don't think it's as big as the other two.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:07, 1 November 2008 (CDT)
:Well, either you or someone else fixed it. Congrats and thanks.-[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:27, 2 November 2008 (CDT)

== New Articles ==

Ah! I'm new to the Wiki scene, so still figuring out how to navigate this "talk" concept. No, those articles I'm posting aren't my own works; they were written by GameMaster Armifer, and are referenced on his GM page in Elanthipedia. I'm actually in the process of uploading all his works that I can find, so I haven't properly attributed them on the pages I'm posting yet... but I will. ;-)
:Ok. Just a note - it's customary to continue talk conversations on the page they were started. And make sure to sign your talk posts (the signature button in the edit button window). Thanks! --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 21:13, 1 November 2008 (CDT)

== Search Functionality ==

With the segreating of items, weapons, armor, etc. into their own categories away from the Main section, do you think it would be possible to include those categories in the default search settings? It drastically reduces the search functionality for the casual user if a cursory search doesn't turn up what they're looking for. --[[User:Thilan|Thilan]] 05:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:I've set the default search namespaces to include all the new ones we've added. However, the maintenance script I tried to run to fix all existing users has failed several times to work, and I'm not sure what the problem is. All my other scripts have worked. Until I get the patch on user options to work, I will put up a big SEARCH HOWTO that tells people to change their Search preferences in their preferences area to include the other namespaces.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 15:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

== re: GoogleSearch ==

Just to forewarn you (if you haven't already heard stuff like this), you might get mixed results from this. GoogleSearch seems to be based on your site score or somesuch, so if you get too popular more and more "unrelated junk" will appear (ie, references to Elanthipedia from, say, play.net posts).

Zuggsoft.com tried to use GoogleSearch for an easy and powerful way to scan through their website/forums, but the results returned proved to be largely unuseful to the point that few people used it at all (luckily, the forums had a search feature of its own).--[[User:Symphaena|Symphaena]] 23:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. Like I said, tis an experiment :)--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 23:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

::Is it possible to put the google search below the elanthipedia search? I keep trying to search elanthipedia with it. --[[User:Ysselt|Ysselt]] 19:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:::That's the point, but sure I'll move it.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 20:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Is there a way to default it to submit the search with "site:www.elanthipedia.com" appended to each search? then it will only search for whatever is being searched within the elanthipedia domain. --[[User:Bromus|Bromus]] 08:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::It should be already defaulted to that. It was when I set it up.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 15:11, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Fest auction ==

Just wanted to let ya know that it was warchyld that won the toy box from the second day auction at the fest....Scott
:Ok? Why you telling me? You can change it/update it/whatever yourself :)--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 13:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== Shop Prices ==

I'm trying to learn to edit and I'm confining myself to the Crossing Trader Shop. I can't seem to figure out how to get prices to display for the items in the store. Any advice?
--[[User:Dinran|Dinran]] 23:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:No worries. For future reference, you can use the signature button in the editing buttons toolbar ([[Image:Button_sig.jpg]]) or just type 4 tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.

:To answer your question, Edit the shop page, go to the ShopItem line for the item you want to add the price to, and add the numerical value for the price after the last <nowiki>|</nowiki>

:;Example:

<pre>{{ShopItem|t=s|enameled tower shield painted with the Therengian royal crest|5000}}</pre>
:--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 14:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::And if you mean on individual item pages, as I see you made an edit to [[Item:Jade turtles]], just add the number and the currency (as the form asks). So like 2000 Kronars.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 14:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

::Not all the shop pages end their entries with " <nowiki>|}}</nowiki> ", some just have the closing brakets right after the name, but that just means you need to add the " <nowiki>|</nowiki> " right before the price yourself. It's quite straight forward once you know what all the parts are for, but that first look at the wall of text can be quite intimidating<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 14:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Good point, thanks for clarifying for him, Glimmereyes.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 14:19, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
So to clarify there is no way to link the table to the Item's stored sale amount?--[[User:Dinran|Dinran]] 23:02, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
: Not currently. It has to be entered in both places.
: Nope. Because an item may be sold in multiple places for more than one price. It's theoretically possible, but it would be messy and I'm not really sure how reliable it would be. Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 05:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::There is a reference in the item for each store it's sold in, I don't know enough about it to know if it's possible within the limitations of the wiki's code but in theory you could have the shop page reference the price based upon the shop listed in the item page.--[[User:Dinran|Dinran]] 20:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Probably would be rough on the System for pulling items like [[Item:Flint]], since it would need to look through each of the shop entries to match up the store names. And I'm not even going to contemplate how to handle items like [[Item:Finespun silk cloak]].<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 01:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Titles, Redux ==
Okay, now that I've started moving titles, I've run into a strange issue. The fact boxes show up for the articles in the Title namespace... but things like #ask don't see them. Any idea? Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not sure. I ran the maintenance scripts after I setup the new namespace, so it's a viable content namespace. Hmm... does #ask work on the other namespaces?--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 21:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::Hmm, I've found a way to force it to specifically look in another namespace, but otherwise it only seems to check the main one. This is despite the documentation which says I should default to all namespaces. I wonder if it's at all tied to the odd behavior of the factboxes? (They don't show up on first loading a page, only once you reload 'em). Fun, eh? Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 22:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== having difficulty trying to put in multiple characters as character profile ==

I have tried 2 different times to add other characters. once under USER: Kadoshgonif, the second time under USER: Dagonif. I am trying to put in Schvartzgonif, and as it is I only see her profile under User page, not when I click on pc character pages. I'd also like to add other characters as well. Do I need a seperate user page for them all?

I am not using the former email or account I had specifically named Schvartzgonif, as I'm no longer using AOL, and it had that email as contact. I'm at YGERST@netzero.net if you need me to verify that I am, indeed, the gonif.
:Why don't you just make two pages (not User: pages) called [[Kadoshgonif]] and [[Schvartzgonif]]? Most people, myself included, prefer to do that, and just link to those pages from their User page. Just click on those redlinks to create the pages. Then put the following links somewhere on your userpage <nowiki>[[Kadoshgonif]] [[Schvartzgonif]]</nowiki>--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 01:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Diseases... ==

See contributions from: [[User:Smurphy95]] I'm not sure we want these (fake) diseases around here... --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 15:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. I didn't wait for consensus, I removed the articles and gave the user a ... reminder... about what's appropriate. Feel free to add your two cents if you like. --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 17:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Map not loading right ==

Redoing some maps and created a new map 34c.
It seems to load fine in IE but in Firefox it keeps having a message that the Image is not valid.
Even after clearing cache and restarting Firefox it is doing this. maybe it will work fine later, but if you could take a look at this and see if you see some problem.
:After rebooting it worked, no reason to look into.
Brablo

Glad the issue resolved :) --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 15:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Would like to change my name from ThiresDR to just Thires ==

Didn't really think about it when I made the account name.
~Yes I can. I will need to do a merge of two accounts though. Please create a new account with your desired user name and do not make any edits with this account. I'll then merge the two of them.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 21:07, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Redirect Mistake On My Part ==

Hi. I was attempting to make some new planned spell lists, but made a big mistake on one of them. Had the wrong name for the spell and when trying to redirect it, I just made a bigger mess. It was for the Potency Shift spell. Somehow there are now three pages. Sorry about this, is there any way to fix it? The pages are [[Potency Shift]],[[Portents Shift]], and [[Portency Shift]]. The correct one should only be [[Potency Shift]]. Thank you and sorry again. Also, sorry if this was not the place to ask but was told only the Admin could delete pages.

[[User:Kelvena|Kelvena]] 01:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's ok. I've corrected the situation. :) --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 01:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

==SMW_Settings.php Check==
Could you check SMW_Settings.php and see if the $smwgQComparators is set to allow the comparitors "~?" and "~*". If not, could you change it? It would allow me to do some interesting things on templates. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:Added.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 23:27, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Idon_Raiders ==

I forsee [[Idon_Raiders|this]] possibly becoming an issue, so I put up a warning. Lemmie know if you disagree. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
:For what its worth I '''agree'''--[[User:Callek|Callek]] 03:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:: You may want to take a peek at this: [[Elanthipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/PCs]]. I'm trying to get a consensus on the policy for adding negative information about players and player groups. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
== possible addition to critter skinning ==

not sure where this really should go, and didn't want to start altering templates and such... but maybe since scraping skins teaches additional skinning, having a cap listed as far as learning skinning from scraping pelts/hides/skins. --[[User:Homikrin|Homikrin]] 08:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Is that based on the source of the skin for it's cap? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::I was thinking in terms of, if one were to say, skin a [[Striped Badger]], and scrape the pelt, what would be the rank at which the 'scrape normal' no longer teaches skinning, or is there ever a point where that happens? --[[User:Homikrin|Homikrin]] 23:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
::: No clue. Find out, and let us know. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

==Move Without Redirect Page? ==
According to [[Special:ListGroupRights|this page]] moderators can move pages without creating redirect pages. This would be nice, but I can't figure out how to do it. Any ideas? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 01:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm really not sure. I did a cursory look through some help files and nothing was.. helpful.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 00:27, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== adding my page to the elanthipedia.com :O) ==

i was wondering i wanted to put a page/article thingie on the player run organization catergory and was wondering as to how i go about it? thanks fer yer time
nate
:If you do include a player-run organization, it needs to read like an encyclopedia article, not an advertisement for the group.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 00:27, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Map109c ==

Not sure what the problem is, but only one of the 3 types of armadillos are being listed. They are all listed in the source and even tried reentering them.
[[User:Brablo|Brablo]] 23:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:I do believe that is handled by the individual creature templates. So check the other two types and make sure that Map109c is listed as where they are found.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 00:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::Naeya's right... I just recently updated the map infobox to auto-populate it from creature pages. see {{tlink|rmap}} for the template used on creature pages... I'm working my way down the map list to update all the maps to remove creature= (and shops/people) for the auto-populating to work, and then I'll remove all signs of creature= etc from the infobox template. --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 01:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah, that explains it. It changed from how it used to be. Wasn't aware of that change, good to know where to populate to have creatures pulled in.[[User:Brablo|Brablo]] 03:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Namespaces ==

Hey, any chance you can create Namespaces: '''Post''' and '''Log''' (or plural those at your discretion). Caraamon seems to think they may make sense. (that is if doing so won't break anything) --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 03:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hmm, is there really a demand for those? --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 13:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
::Not too much with Logs, but I do have at least one to copy to a page (And I forsee reasons for future logs to be added). And as far as Posts, we have alot of /Posts pages, that we seem to be duplicating among many pages, because they relate to many articles. With a Posts namespace, we can just add a single page for a post and use Semantic Mediawiki to associate it to the articles where it matters. --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 15:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

== Captcha for offsite linking ==

Can it be set up that certain domains do not require the captcha? IE play.net. Just a minor annoyance really. [[User:VTCifer|VTCifer]] 00:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

== Song Scrolls ==

Hi Naeya,

Any particular formatting you'd like on the Song Scrolls
before I get them more populated?

(Ideally a template, or if you want me to attempt to make one,
I can. If it blows up the universe, soooo not my fault.)

~Hithrael

== server... ==

hip hip hooray! --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 17:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:Looks like all of the factboxes are disabled for some reason. It may be that the semantic tags are nonfunctional as well. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 07:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::You have access to the files, Caraamon. Feel free to take a look.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 13:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I've been poking around... and I'm stumped. This is really becoming a MAJOR frustration. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 07:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
::::I did the upgrade of SMW as per the instruction on their home site. I can't imagine what is causing the issues we're experiencing. Perhaps ask on their discussion list? --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 01:11, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Did you (two) verify the chmod of the SMW files. and that the DB itself is accessible (read/write) with the user/pass we are using for SMW? --[[User:Callek|Callek]] 03:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::.... Uh. Of course we did. And just to be sure we do it the same way, how would you have checked that? Because we did. Of course we did. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 21:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Naeya,

I want to change the skill caps on critter pages to offensive and defensive ranges. Tinkering around I added 2 columns to the bestiary list itself, and I fiddled with the ship rat page to include the correct properties. I was going to add the necessary properties MinDefCap and MaxDefCap but got a little stuck there. Also want to change MinCap and MaxCap to MinOffCap and MaxOffCap. If you can get these implemented I'll start adding info to the critters themselves.

Thanks!

----Nazzarus
:That's really too complicated, and adds even more data to track to an already overloaded temple. As it is, basically the skill ranks represent the higher (or lower) of defenses or offenses required to hunt the creature. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 20:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

::Does the system get overloaded when you add more to a template? Not sure what the issue is, was shooting for accuracy since people look for different critters for different training, and this gives the list more details (I don't see this as a bad thing). Check DRPlat.com to see what I mean [[user:Nazzarus|Nazzarus Stormfall]]<sup>([[User talk:Nazzarus|talk]])</sup> 02:59 16 March 2009 (CST)
:::The more properties you add to a template, especially one that's going to be included into at least a hundred pages, the more data has to be accessed each time that page is loaded. As it stands, there's already a lot of data, plus you have the problem of visually overloading the page.
:::Top that off with the fact that the numbers are only guidelines, due to differences in spells, armor, weapons, hunting styles, stats, abilities, and a thousand other things, I don't feel like two sets of numbers is going to be any more informative than one. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 19:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

== Better categories ==

I figured I would ask first, but I would like to sort weapons and armor (at the least) into better categories, such as all LX into a Light Crossbow category that links to Weapons, all ME into a Medium Edge category.

So would this be alright to do, or are there reasons it hasn't been done like this? -- [[User:Tea|Tea]] 04:10, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:That's what the currently disabled semantic functions are for. It'll be back and working ASAP. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 05:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
:: Okay thanks! I was wondering where those went. --[[User:Tea|Tea]] 20:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== Formula Question ==

Hello. Was just wondering whether it would be OK to start transferring over the formulas from DRSecrets. I can't imagine there's any sort of copyright problem, but just wanted to make sure before I started doing it and got anyone in trouble. [[User:Martslyis|Celeres]] 03:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Just make sure there's a note that it came from DRSecrets.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 19:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

==See also Template Problems==

I'm attempting to make a '''[[Template:See also|template]]''' that mirrors [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:See_also Template:See Also], but it's not going so hot. I've tried a few different things, but haven't found a decent source on template styles and have ran out of things to try. Any help would be appreciated. --[[User:Maje|Maje]] 09:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
:If you look at the source for that template you're trying to mirror, you'll see that it itself calls a great number of other templates. I wouldn't recommend trying to exactly mirror that particular wikipedia template, just because it's so complex and to make it exactly the same, you'd have to bring in all those other templates, which is really unnecessary. I suggest just making it very simple. I'll take a look at what you have in a few. Don't have time just yet this morning.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 14:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

== SemanticWiki Oddness ==

I've done everything I can think of, but no dice. I think we may have to delete all the software and reinstall. In theory, it shouldn't affect the wiki pages themselves. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:"In theory" is a frightening thing. So... deleting files + database tables associated with SMW?--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 00:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::In all honesty, since I can't figure out if the problem is SMW or the base MediaWiki.... everything? I wouldn't worry, that's what backups are for! -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::*groans* I hate restoring backups! LOL Ugh. You might be right though. I need to do a little praying and get some courage to tackle that project...--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 00:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep yep yep. Lemmie know what I can do. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Do you think it's worth it to go ahead and upgrade to MW 1.15 in the process? I haven't been keeping up with any of the updates with that or SMW and I don't know about the compatibility.
::::Might as well, according to the website, SMW is compatable with MW up to 1.15alpha (r46927). -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oh, is it still in alpha release? I won't want to use it if it's just a RC.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 23:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Uh, it looks like MW is a full release, but SMW has only been tested with the alpha version. Maybe we shouldn't then. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 23:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been meaning to get started on this, I just hate it so much, I've been finding excuses not to. Ugh. Guess I should set a date for the deed... --[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 21:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Policy Decision ==

The player behind a defaced page has asked for the IP address of the defacer. Thoughts? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 04:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:I'm sorry, but we will not disclose IP addresses of anyone, no matter the circumstances.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 05:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== Need help with a redirect from a User Page ==

I goofed when I created the Zaran Shadowscribe character page on the Shadowscribe user page. I redirected the character page to a new page for "Zaran", but the Shadowscribe user page still shows the Zaran Shadowscribe info from the redirect. Is there a way to separate the two pages entirely and free-up the Shadowscribe user page?[[User:Shadowscribe|Shadowscribe]] 21:15, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Assuming I'm not confused, when you went to User:Shadowscribe, there was a small bit of text just below the page name that said "(Redirected from [[User:Shadowscribe]])". If you clicked on the User:Shadowscribe link, it will temporarily suspend the redirect, allowing you to edit the User page instead of the Zaran page. I've removed the redirect, but just so you know how to do it in the future.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 22:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Perfect, thank you! [[User:Shadowscribe|Shadowscribe]] 22:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Elanthipedia Semantics ==

We either need to fix this, or go back to the old system. Nudge, nudge, hit with a club. :P -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 22:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:I've been so far gone on MediaWiki and SMW dev, I have no clue where to begin to fix it. Do you have any suggestions? I've been toying with the idea of moving the site to Wikia where we'd have more tech support.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 22:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:: I was afraid you'd ask me that. Uh. Um. Look shiny object!
:: I mean, lemmie poke around one final time, and see if I can find anything. If not, the only thing I can think of is to uninstall the whole semantic thing and reinstall it clean. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::Well, we're behind at least one version on MediaWiki, Semantic MediWiki and Semantic Forms. Maybe we should try updating? It might work. Maybe. Couldn't hurt. Right? -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 00:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm going to attempt some upgrades in the week after New Years. I need some time to refresh my memory with the software and such so I don't totally screw things up. Sorry I'm so out of it.--[[User:Naeya|Naeya]] <sup>([[User talk:Naeya|talk]])</sup> 04:18, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

== Thank You.... ==

Dear Naeya,

My sincere apologies if this is the wrong place to post this. But I have been searching around for...well...at least the past week and this seemed to be the only way I found. I wanted to leave you a message but it did not allow me.

I just wanted to say "thank you" for all the work that you and those who work with you in creating this site. It has been an invaluable resource to me. I couldn't imagine playing DR without it. I have been wanting to say thank you for some time. But I wasn't sure where or how to post it. So I ended up looking at the admins of the site and found your name among them.

Again my apologies if this is the wrong protocol for my correspondence. But I wasn't sure where or how else to do it.

So again....for what it is worth, thank you...very much to you and your co-administrators.

Sincerely,

Malch

P.S. If this message was better put elsewhere...please don't hesitate to let me know. 8)

--[[User:Malchazador|Malchazador]] 18:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Appraisal question ==

Had a question on appraisal values. Paladins can get values for protection no in the standard list. For example, very great protection. I assume this is something like paladins seeing better values due to guild knowledge or something, maybe narrowing down the fields some. Just wondering if these might be added to the list of values, or if they should be ignored. --[[User:Martslyis|Celeres]] 20:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Race pages and how to categorize books. ==

Hi Naeya, I've been doing some cleanup to the race pages (details of that --> [[Category_talk:Elf]]) and I'm noticing that some of the racially-themed books have both a Category and Race Association of that race. So for instance, [[Bardic Knots (book)]] is using both Category: Prydaen and Race Association: Prydaen.

How should this be handled? I'm thinking they should be removed from the general race categories so that they appear only in a list of books, but I wanted an opinion before I go ahead and fix anything.
--[[User:Vien|Vien]] 19:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
: I'd remove them from the race pages, personally. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 07:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

==Error on Character Page==
Greetings,

I was looking over the characters list and noticed my name among them. Being curious as to the information that may have been written I took a peek. Nothing was there other than who I was engaged to, which needs to be edited please. She left a good bit ago and now is married to Jappal. I'd hate to confuse anyone and have them thinking that I am still engaged with Draeya.

Thanks a bunch,

Vicktoreon
:It's a straight forward edit, but I fixed if you you.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes|Glimmereyes]] 18:32, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


== Heya ==
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