Talk:The Order of Damaris' Hand

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I do have said rights.. i did waiver... I only asked they change so we dont have to. I've edited ours for the most part so it didnt look identical to this one. However, the parts i refuse to change are parts one of our raiders wrote for our website. Thanks very much xox--IdonsWebmaster 12:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Any particular reason you pretty much copied NaFianna‎ rather than used a redirect and altered NaFianna‎?
-Glimmereyes 05:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I think its funny you are complaining they copied Nafinianana when they actually copied the raiders almost word for word and it still is copied.. please correct this as you've taken direct quotes from our website.. thank you.

Since NaFianna‎ and Order of Damaris' Hand was just a name change a redirect was the proper way to handle it and my note was a polite way of informing them, not an accusation of plagiarism.

Maybe I'm just missing it, but at this point it's pretty much just the structure of the page rather than the content that's copied from Idon Raiders. Since you feel different on this, please provide examples and we'll look into it.
-Glimmereyes 16:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Since i changed the bulk of ours to look way different since everything was identical i will point out the parts taken from a copyrighted website that you have in fact copied.

YOURS It is the policy of the Order of Damaris' Hand to welcome every guild into the group. However, the Order of Damaris' Hand do not actively recruit Paladins, because their philosophy clashes with the intentions of Order of Damaris' Hand

Stealing skill is not required. The Order of Damaris' Hand believe that a combination of talents is important to the success of any Infiltration assignment. The single most important virtues of an Order of Damaris' Hand are secrecy and a desire to have fun.

RAIDERSIt is the policy of the Raiders to welcome every guild into the group. Stealing skill is not required. The Raiders believe that a combination of talents is important to the success of any invasion force. The single most important virtues of an Idon Raider are gumption and a desire to have fun.

WEBSITE published Nov '08 Stealing skill is not required to compliment a raiding party. As we all know, a combination of talents is important to the success of any invasion force. The single most important virtues of an Idon Raider are gumption and a desire to have fun.

IF you want to see how very much like ours this is and how much was directly copied.. it is possible with wiki to go back to the original versions of the wiki.. like before i changed it all. You will see that right down to the report policy was directly copied then edited.. please fix this.

Just as an aside, if they're copying and pasting from one portion of this wiki to another (i.e. from the raiders article to the nafianna one or this one or whatever), since both edits are licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0, there's nothing wrong with it. Fenance 16:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Just because it's legal does not make it right. I've already specified it's legal, but in my opinion as a moderator, it's not right. -Moderator Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi^(talk) 20:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)