Talk:DR Wiki

Rawb, Does it make sense to create categories for each province? this would require a bit of work on the map side, but would be a way to tie events and GMNPCs to maps. Just a thought-Pirates

Pirates: I think just making a category called "Theren" or "Zoluren" would be bad. What, exactly, would it mean if some GMNPC is in that province category? "Vorclaf" is in "Zoluren"... seems kinda vague. I much prefer groups like "Vorclaf" being in the "Zoluren Royal Family" category, and a list of events he was involved in. - Rawb

Sorry again about the categorization whatnot. I'll be sure to do that in the future.

One nitpick: I'm not sure that breaking people these down into [Category:BeforeLanival] and [Category:AfterLanival] or [Category:GMPC] and [Category:Historical] are a good idea. The first break would make it difficult to classify contemporaries of Lanival (does Arhat go before or after? He was both before and after) and very old characters (eg, Tezirah) that "come back". The second break seems both unnecessary (you're not going to have non-GMs playing, for example, Lanival) and also suffers from the same "Tezirah came back" problem.

My GMNPCs category is pretty vague, but all I'm trying to say there is that this is a character in the control of GMs, not players. It is not a player character. As for before / after Lanival, simply add his contemporaries to BOTH categories, as they were around before, and are around after. - Rawb

My solution? I can't say that I have one that will solve all the problems, but I have some suggestions. One categorization for mythical and/or dead characters (eg, Mhalush, Prince Sirolarn) and another for characters that are still alive and have been "active" or could be expected to become so (eg, Prince Vorclaf, Falken the tanner). This way, anybody in the first category could be expected to stay there (barring extreme necromancry) while those in the second category would only occasionally need to be moved into the first (when they die, as in the case of Jeladric Theren IV). Other categorizations (eg, Theren family) could be done on an ad hoc basis or as determined useful by those wiser than I. -Basselope

Why don't we have a category (under GMNPCs) called Mythical? That would get rid of the mythical people. Then we have the living / dead characters. Perhaps my before / after Lanival is too arbitrary, but I'm basically just trying to split things such as BC vs AD. Anyway, I've coppied over the timeline in full... it's over at Elanthian Timeline. I think we should extend it and start having it link to the characters mentioned in it. - Rawb

Regarding the timeline, there are a few other ones we ought to include (Dwarven Timeline, Zoluren Timeline, the "big" timeline, Albarian timeline, etc) --Basselope

Books suggestion

Hey, I had a suggestion about how books are organized. Currently, every book entry is Book:(Call letter). By doing this, every book will be under B in the category listing. If we just make the entry (Call Letter) then the books will be alphabetical by their call letters. Also, I was thinking maybe we could make an entry for the book by it's title, and have it redirect to the entry already made that's listed by call letter. We could also do sub-categories for books by call letter, and books by title. We could maybe even do categories for histories, manuals, poems, or by location or something. Since we're just getting it started, it'd be real easy to do this stuff now, so I just wanted to find out what we wanted to do for sure. If you go to Books you'll see a bit of what I had in mind. Please let me know what you think. Martslyis

I think we should have one "entry" for each book, and one redirection. The redirection page could be the call letters page, which would redirect to an entry by the name of the book. I recognize your issue with pages named Book:etc, and if you'd like to change that then by all means go ahead.

As for categories, The Strand Library lists a bunch of categories that are applicable, which, coincidentally, depend on the book's call letter. Those are the categories we should most-likely use when sorting the books or adding them to categories. Only the actual book entry (not the entry for the redirect) should be a member of these categories, I feel. Adding books to where they are located right now seems to be a bunch of work, but if you're up for it, go for it. I don't have a template made for each book the way I do for critters or shops, so if you'd like to experiment with a book template, take a look at the critter template Template:Critter at a Glance and how it's used (shown on Musk Hogs). That template can add critters to categories based on whether they have gems, skinnable, etc etc etc. - rawb

Main page links

I was going to add a link to the GMNPCs catagory on the main page but thought I better ask first. Rawb? --Windharo 04:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok so I went ahead and did it, only how the heck do you link directly to a category instead of having to make the article characters and then redirecting to the category.. I'll look at it again and see if I understand.--Windharo 05:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

So the link to the characters category doesn't mesh with the links in place, but I'm not sure how to mask it, I'll do some more digging on Wikipedia's help pages.--Windharo 05:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, found out how to mask it, I think it's a good addition as I am always looking into the GMNPC category.