Category talk:News

Titles for News articles

As we create more and more News items and policies get added, I think we should standardize on a naming structure. I think it would be best to be consistent with other conventions on the forum (e.g. Posts) where we do two things:

• Dates in titles should be MM/DD/YYYY as they appear elsewhere on the wiki.
• I'm not sure that the "Dateline" that is in most articles is valuable either for searching or sorting items within the category, could this be dropped?
• Do we need to have the names in ALL CAPS?

  Should we just follow standard naming policy where you capitalize the first word, and then only proper names?

I'd like to propose a new format such as News:<title>_-_MM/DD/YYYY. Example: News:How_to_transfer_characters_between_accounts_-_08/16/2011

By no means should this be seen as the standard, I'm just trying to open a discussion that hopefully one day makes it into the Manual of Style. - padhg (talk) 10:12, 31 August 2016 (CDT)

I'm fine with changes. As I started the current project rolling, here was my thought process:

I changed the date to the one we're using (YYYY/MM/DD) so that viewed on a category list, things will show up chronologically. That's just a personal OCD peeve I have, when things are grouped together by months but are years apart.

I just took, verbatim, the title line from the actual in-game NEWS articles and made that the page title (with the above DATE modification), with the addition of "NEWS:" preceding it. So, that includes the word "Dateline".

As per GM Lyneya's recent post, all the policy changes, and I suspect the related NEWS articles, are going to be updated. So it might even be a good time to make suggestions that get rolled into the IG POLICY and NEWS systems for better formatting there that makes wiki-ing those articles more streamlined.

Also, I feel that getting these articles up is the 1st phase of this project. Each of the current REDIRECT pages (ie. News 5 1) I hope in phase 2 to turn into DISAMBIG pages as updated NEWS articles replace the current ones.

--Kythryn 10:24, 31 August 2016 (CDT)

Perhaps we just make this easier and take the date out of the title? For example, in game there is only one version of NEWS 4 10 that is updated every month. If we only keep the latest NEWS/POLICY on the page News 4 22 - <title> and let the page history take care of the versioning? In this way, if someone types "news 4 22" into the search bar, the result is auto-suggested. It also means not having to update any redirects every time the NEWS/POLICY is updated. Thoughts? - padhg (talk) 10:48, 31 August 2016 (CDT)

Unfortunately, I am heading out of town here in a couple hours and won't have internet access, so this will be my last "chime in".

We can certainly do the above suggestion (no date), or change the title layout. I was following the general idea of "exact documentation", like we do with forum posts (we don't MOS those titles either (ex. Post:IMPORTANT: The EXP system, Elanthia, and you. - 5/13/2009 - 23:02:07)), simply use the title of the actual forum post + <date/time>.

If we do choose to have the HISTORY log changes, can that be found via a SEARCH? For example, if someone searches for "Bard Hodierna's Lilt" and the current News 3 3 comes up, will it continue to show up on a SEARCH once that article has been written over? We had talked about this when making up pages...some of these that are pretty static (like the category 5 ones) could be "stand alone" with no dates. But, there are other categories that get new articles frequently. I was thinking about those for the long-term documentation. So, since the NEWS system as a whole should be consistent with all the articles over all 5 categories, we need to have a naming system that works for all the types of articles IMO.

Anyhow, whatever you and Mistanna (and anyone else that chimes in on this) decide to do is fine with me! --Kythryn 11:25, 31 August 2016 (CDT)

Page history is not typically searched, so if we treat NEWS items like a command pages and it was changed, the old content would not show up. The real question is do we tread these pages like Posts (with dates, and have to maintain a redirect to the latest one), or do we treat them like command pages? Right now we're doing a little of both. - padhg (talk) 11:29, 31 August 2016 (CDT)