Talk:Attributes: Difference between revisions
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Cool, I'm going to do a little text cleanup to replace 'statistics' with 'stats' or 'attributes'. BTW if you're not aware, there's a <nowiki>{{DeletePage}}</nowiki> template for marking pages for deletion. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 12:04, 27 April 2007 (CDT) |
Cool, I'm going to do a little text cleanup to replace 'statistics' with 'stats' or 'attributes'. BTW if you're not aware, there's a <nowiki>{{DeletePage}}</nowiki> template for marking pages for deletion. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 12:04, 27 April 2007 (CDT) |
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== GIF for formula == |
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Is there a good reason for the formula to use a GIF to display? It makes it harder to update (as was the case when the formula was incorrect due to order of operations, but overall correct), and doesn't seem to really add any usefulness. [[User:VTCifer|VTCifer]] 15:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC) |
Is there a good reason for the formula to use a GIF to display? It makes it harder to update (as was the case when the formula was incorrect due to order of operations, but overall correct), and doesn't seem to really add any usefulness. [[User:VTCifer|VTCifer]] 15:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::: I'll look into it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC) |
::::: I'll look into it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::: While theoretically possible, since we're running off a shared server, it would be a MAJOR pain to do. At the moment, I don't see enough call for it's use to justify the amount of effort it would take. Instead, I would suggest that you create a section in the [[MOS|Manual of Style]] and instead try to standardize the font types and sizes used in the graphics. That would allow better interchangeability. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC) |
::::: While theoretically possible, since we're running off a shared server, it would be a MAJOR pain to do. At the moment, I don't see enough call for it's use to justify the amount of effort it would take. Instead, I would suggest that you create a section in the [[MOS|Manual of Style]] and instead try to standardize the font types and sizes used in the graphics. That would allow better interchangeability. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon|talk]])</sup> 02:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC) |
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--[[User:SAUVA|SAUVA]] ([[User talk:SAUVA|talk]]) 08:50, 20 October 2022 (CDT) |
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new formula using https://www.codecogs.com/eqnedit.php and LaTex |
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<code>TDPs = current\left([3|15]+\frac{racial}{2}\right) - (current \times racial)\bmod 2\left(\left(\frac{current}{2}\right)\bmod2-1\right)</code> |
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== removing Intelligence, Wisdom, and Experience section == |
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I'm going to delete this section since IMO it reads as extremely technical and confusing. This information would also be more aptly woven into the individual stat articles, or the [[experience]] article. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 02:00, 26 January 2013 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 07:50, 20 October 2022
Is there a reason for displaying the costs for stats in this fashion? It seems like it makes it more complicated than it needs to be. Wouldn't it make more sense to just list the cost per point? Something like:
| Dwarf | Elf | Elothean | Gor'Tog | … | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Strength | 3 | 3.5 | 3.5 | 1.5 | … |
| Reflex | 3.5 | 2.5 | 2.5 | 3.5 | … |
| … | |||||
And the equation simply becomes current attribute × racial cost
Da Next Pope (talk) 11:37, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
- Firstly, I've been playing for *years* and have only ever seen it referred to as it is here, I forget the initial reasoning, but anyway... for why I think current is better.
- It makes it *easy* to see where each race has a bonus or a negative in which stats, you can see at a glance, that Elves don't do well with strength for example! --Callek 22:42, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
Attribute, Stat, or Statistic?
Calling Charisma, Agility, Wisdom etc. 'statistics' seems a little odd IMO. Based on my 10 years playing DR, in my experience I can't ever recall hearing someone refer to them with the full word 'statistics'. I've just done a quick survey of IG documentation and this is how it seems to go:
Statistics refers to all the info obtained as a group when you type the INFO command, as well as the non-attribute qualities Concentration, TDP's, Age, Encumbrance, etc.
Stats or Attributes are the commonly used words for the bodily qualities Agility, Charisma, Intelligence, Wisdom, Discipline, Strength, Reflex, and Stamina.
I think it would be better to rename this article and the corresponding references and categories either 'Stats' or 'Attributes' to agree with common usage. My main point, in a nutshell, is that statistics =/= stats --Farman 19:48, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
- Fair enough. Really I just wanted to unabbreviate "stats" when I created the page to be more proper but I can see where there could be some confusion. Created a little placeholder here but it needs some work. --Grindinghalt 20:34, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
- Alright, I screwed up, wasn't thinking. Can one of you sysops delete the page Attributes and then move this page there to keep edit history for this article? Thanks. --Grindinghalt 20:48, 26 April 2007 (CDT)
Cool, I'm going to do a little text cleanup to replace 'statistics' with 'stats' or 'attributes'. BTW if you're not aware, there's a {{DeletePage}} template for marking pages for deletion. --Farman 12:04, 27 April 2007 (CDT)
GIF for formula
Is there a good reason for the formula to use a GIF to display? It makes it harder to update (as was the case when the formula was incorrect due to order of operations, but overall correct), and doesn't seem to really add any usefulness. VTCifer 15:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware. Probably someone didn't know how to use the formula functions. Change if you desire. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 21:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how to use the formula function either. Is there a help/style page for it? VTCifer 11:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- This should be it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 21:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- The LaTeX format doesn't work here. Is that something that has to (and if so, will it) be added by the wiki admin? (ie the <math> tag) VTCifer 00:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'll look into it. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 02:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- While theoretically possible, since we're running off a shared server, it would be a MAJOR pain to do. At the moment, I don't see enough call for it's use to justify the amount of effort it would take. Instead, I would suggest that you create a section in the Manual of Style and instead try to standardize the font types and sizes used in the graphics. That would allow better interchangeability. -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 02:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- The LaTeX format doesn't work here. Is that something that has to (and if so, will it) be added by the wiki admin? (ie the <math> tag) VTCifer 00:51, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- This should be it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula -Moderator Caraamon Makdasi(talk) 21:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how to use the formula function either. Is there a help/style page for it? VTCifer 11:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
--SAUVA (talk) 08:50, 20 October 2022 (CDT) new formula using https://www.codecogs.com/eqnedit.php and LaTex
TDPs = current\left([3|15]+\frac{racial}{2}\right) - (current \times racial)\bmod 2\left(\left(\frac{current}{2}\right)\bmod2-1\right)
removing Intelligence, Wisdom, and Experience section
I'm going to delete this section since IMO it reads as extremely technical and confusing. This information would also be more aptly woven into the individual stat articles, or the experience article. --Farman 02:00, 26 January 2013 (UTC)