Category talk:Player organizations

Naming convention for player organizations and families

As part of the drive for standardizing page name conventions, we have come to the point we need to decide how to handle the page names of player organizations. Caraamon and I had a very brief discussion and came up with a basic guideline, but now need to open it up for suggestion and comment. What we came up with is as follows:

• Pages for official player organizations will have their page names be exactly as it appears in the Official Player-Run Organizations folder on the official forums.
• Pages for unofficial player organizations or families that have a folder in the Unofficial Player Guilds, Clans and Families folder on the official forums will have their page names be exactly as it appears in that folder.
• Player families without a folder on the official forums will have their page name indicate their functional status as opposed to a nickname or other designation. E.g. "Fancypants family" instead of "House Fancypants" or "The Fancypants Imperium." This includes multiple-family structures.
• Player organizations without a folder on the official forums that do not have a family structure will have their page name be the functional name of their organization without any nicknames or shortened versions. E.g. "Acenamacra militia" instead of "Acenamcrannihalators" or "The Acenamacra Reds."

In short, the suggestion is to have the page name be simply the functional name of the organization/family unless they have a folder on the official forums in which case the page name will be that instead. Note that a page's contents can include any nicknames or other designations without issue as long as they meet general content standards. These guidelines are only for the page title itself.
Again, I stress this is currently up for consideration as part of a general drive for page name standards and feedback is welcome.--ABSOLON (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2015 (CST)

I think the naming standard would certainly be helpful, esp. for those of us not in the major population centers that haven't really heard of the smaller groups or family houses. I imagine you already talked over and dismissed the suggestion, since it isn't listed above, but another way to go about things would be to do similar to what Caraamon suggested we do the Elothean Houses; add in (type) after the names for the different page focuses. For instance, on the House of the Floating Reed page, you will note there is a (shop) for the shop, (location) for the house grounds, etc.

For this project then, it would let each of the groups keep with the name they identify themselves with (using the ex. "House Fancypants"), but the page title would be House Fancypants (player) or House Fancypants (unofficial). If "House Fancypants" was an official order, it could be House Fancypants (order) or House Fancypants (official). And if it was a game organization (I'm thinking about all those Therengian houses the Barony oversees), it could be House Fancypants (SIMU) or House Fancypants (GM-controlled). Or whatever.

I guess I just see that last list item being a bit of a headache over the long haul, when you take the page name indicate their functional status into account. Militias are pretty straight forward, same with triages I guess. But what about things like the Ilithi Trading Company (are they a Trader organization, an Ilithi or Zoluren group, maybe a crafting group? They could fit a multitude of "functions"). It seems like you might have to come up with a pretty long list of possible qualifiers for the "functions", and even then, you might have groups that do multiple "functions" or that fit none of the defined "functions" so then a moderator would need to then be contacted to add in another one to the list or make a decision on which of the ones approved fit best to a group. In short, it would be subjective and not straightforward, yea?

Anyhow, I think the original suggestion works out too, just offering another suggestion and some feedback! --Kythryn 01:18, 25 January 2015 (CST)