Talk:Origami

There are origami instructions for CROW instructions sold in Leth and Ratha. I have the ability, right now, to fold horses (395scholar/266mech/50int/46agil) and I fail miserably at Crow - any idea where these fall so they can possibly be added to the origami calculator? --Ysselt 16:33, 16 October 2008 (CDT)

Wasn't the Crow replaced by the Raven instructions because it had conflicts with the Crown instructions? --Mozzik 04:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know they're still sold (as of about 5 months ago when I bought some) they're also still available in origami grimoires. --Ysselt 19:04, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

New Origami References:

Would there be a way to combine both of these lists, so they're in full order? Perhaps a way to mark or colour the FEST patterns, so people know they aren't regularly available? --Ysselt 21:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Posts Regarding New Origami Patterns, finding your numbers (etc)

[1] - Gent's post with new origami information.

[2] - Gent's repost of Apu's original origami data.

Wrong First Folds

>read viper instr You read through the viper instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go. Roundtime: 3 seconds.

>read butterfly instr You read through the butterfly instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go. Roundtime: 3 seconds.

>read tri instr You read through the triquetra knot instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. Now if only you could figure out where to place the first fold. Roundtime: 3 seconds.

These aren't all the same level. Currently have 401 scholar + a prediction taking me to at least 500 + 50 int. Sadly I can't pin it down more to correct it. --Mozzik 04:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Posting your FF and SF might be a little more helpful; I personally don't understand the calculations but people like Gent do. You can get those numbers here: http://www.olwydd.org/systems/origamicalc.php SF is the first set FF is the second set. --Ysselt 19:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Sortable Table

I left the order of entries as it was under the old tables, since it provides a handy way to keep the Festival-only ones separate from the standard ones while still preserving the difficulty order within Fest and Non-fest instructions.
Also, as it stands, the location column isn't very useful as a sort, but I'm thinking... meh? I think its more of a reference than anything a person would need to sort by. I did debate making a separate column for each shop, but that would be cluttered, a pain to edit, and not really worth the time. If someone can come up with an elegant solution, that'd be great.--Evran 11:56, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I added a column 'Type' which will let people separate the two general categories of readily storebought and merchant only instructions. That should be more than enough sorting capability for shop locations.--Evran 17:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

imho, just mix them up by skill level, now that you have the Type category. --Ysselt 01:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Origami calculator is gone

Link's broken. I've removed it from the page, but preserved it here, just in case: http://www.wiztrigger.com/origami.html --Antendren 13:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Below the Fold pattern levels

So, I don't know how all the main table numbers were found out, but here's some information I gathered on the Below the Fold instructions
With a STUDY factor of 1004 and a FOLD factor of 871:
vykathi, unyn, sluagh, parasol, goggle, gargoyle, gear, bull, crocodile & water lily instructions were all too easy with the same messaging as follows -

You glance at the <xx> instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

plate of bacon & spring were all too hard with the messaging as follows -

You read through the <xx> instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. Now if only you could figure out where to place the first fold.

--Kythryn 04:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Kyth, do you have the appraisals for all these new patterns? Those are how we determine the difficulty and order on the chart. The appraisal price is directly tied to the difficulty, and follows a pattern, which I used to determine the current state of the chart. If you don't, that it alright! Thanks

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Luckysevens 05:20, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I didn't appraise each of them, but I did a spot check on 2 or 3 and they were each 5 stone & 902 dokora, which I think was also the purchase price from the merchant. I already tucked them away on an alt since none were in learning range for me right now, but I'll dig them all back out over the next few days and app them all. --Kythryn 05:49, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Better late than never on these? They all app at 1250 Kronar, so I think they may break from the previous appraisal=difficulty formula. That being said, I can provide another set of numbers on them (and I have a friend here too, will get their scores as well). Mine will be wonky since I moved my mech into alchemy, but hers are a little more normal.

With a STUDY factor of 1275 and a FOLD factor of 336:

The sluagh, gear, bull & water lily instructions were too easy.

You glance at the <xx> instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

The goggle instructions look to be around level.

You read quickly through the <xx> instructions. You find that you recognize almost all of the folds, and think that you could probably make this without too much trouble. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

The vykathi, unyn, parasol, gargoyle, crocodile, plate of bacon & spring instructions are now way too hard.

You read through the <xx> instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

With a STUDY factor of 876 and a FOLD factor of 601:

The sluagh, gear, bull, water lily, goggle, unyn, gargoyle instructions were too easy.

You glance at the <xx> instructions, and recognize this as a very easy project. You could probably fold it with your eyes closed; it certainly wouldn't be any kind of a challenge. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

The parasol instructions look to be just a little hard.

You read through the <xx> instructions, visualizing the folds in your mind as you go. There are several places where things might get a little sticky; you think you just might be able to do this, but then again you might not. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.

The vykathi, crocodile, plate of bacon & spring instructions are now way too hard.

You read through the <xx> instructions and your eyes nearly cross. There are folds you've never heard of here, and you get a strong impression that trying this would be a waste of origami paper. You think it fairly obvious where the first fold would go.