Post:Weapon grandfathering vs Magic grandfathering - 03/20/2012 - 17:03

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Re: Weapon grandfathering vs Magic grandfathering · on 03/20/2012 05:03 PM CDT 1418
>>By virtue of skillset differences I don't think it's possible to balance it, not without giving one guild an incredibly hard circling requirement and the other a free pass.

This is basically the issue. Magic and weapons have trained in wildly different fashions in the past. While this is getting better in M3 (You can't get better at debilitating without actually debilitating something), the last sixteen years or so have put us into a pretty dramatically weird situation.

>>There's a basic metric, sure, but it's not infallible.

Correct, but it's the best we have.

>>I am sure, without a doubt, that if GMs were capable of knowing that you cast EASE 226,753 times, BOLT 63,235 times, and MAF 12 times, they'd give magic ranks based on that knowledge

I would kill for this kind of information, for magic or anything else.

>>I am pretty sure I saw GMs say that they're looking into what they can do when it comes to grandfathering things for the 150+ crowd

Correct

>>I know they can't. My point is that MUs would be crying up a storm if their magic was grandfathered to their circle and not based on anything else

I totally get that. If I had any metric similar to PM to say "Pendus rages all the time", believe me I'd be using it.

>>The way I'd do it is average out the two highest lores for barbarians and base it off that or based off your circle reqs, whichever is higher

Yes, but this is even more dramatically inaccurate than grandfathering to-circle. It puts a chart-reading grass-braider as a barbarian who's raged far more than one who's spent most of his life on the battlefield.

Also, as noted in the EXP folder, I'm going on vacation for a week with limited internets. Don't mistake my slow responses for a lack of caring.

This message was originally posted in The Barbarians/Responses to GM`Official Announcements, by DR-SOCHARIS on the play.net forums.