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The formula is shaping up to be a number - (Charisma/2). I still need to figure out if it rounds up or down, but the only character that has TDPs left is the one I'm trying to prove the formula at the high end with (something like 20 ranks to go). I'll have a character match against your 13 ranks shortly. My hypothesis is that it rounds up. Anyway, here's the numbers I've got in theory now.
The formula is shaping up to be a number - (Charisma/2). I still need to figure out if it rounds up or down, but the only character that has TDPs left is the one I'm trying to prove the formula at the high end with (something like 20 ranks to go). I'll have a character match against your 13 ranks shortly. My hypothesis is that it rounds up. Anyway, here's the numbers I've got in theory now.

:we are supposed to be recording using the "with only the slightest hint of difficulty." messaging, right? I caught myself using the "You fumble slightly as you begin to hum" message, which is the next step down the ladder.--[[User:Symphaena|Symphaena]] 21:34, 2 April 2008 (CDT)


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Here's the distrobution chart of data I have so far. The numbers I have at the top are Charisma ratings. Feel free to fill in anything you find, and I'll transcribe it to Excel.
Here's the distrobution chart of data I have so far. The numbers I have at the top are Charisma ratings. Feel free to fill in anything you find, and I'll transcribe it to Excel.


<!-- READ THIS BEFORE EDITING THE TABLE. The table listing is for the LOWEST rank value (as a non-Bard) that you can get the "slight difficulty" messaging with the given amount of Charisma. Feel free to correct any values where you've seen the "slightest difficulty" message lower than the value. The table commented format is as follows: Song, Charisma. So Scales, 9 is the placeholder for the lowest amount of ranks that you can play Scales at with 9 Charisma. Add your rank before the comment, but please do not delete anything between < and >, as it provides a placeholder. Thanks much, -- Herald -->
The table listing is for the LOWEST rank value (as a non-Bard) that you can get the "with only the slightest hint of difficulty" messaging with the given amount of Charisma.

<!-- READ THIS BEFORE EDITING THE TABLE. Feel free to correct any values where you've seen the "slightest difficulty" message lower than the value. The table commented format is as follows: Song, Charisma. So Scales, 9 is the placeholder for the lowest amount of ranks that you can play Scales at with 9 Charisma. Add your rank before the comment, but please do not delete anything between < and >, as it provides a placeholder. Thanks much, -- Herald -->


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| Scales
| Scales
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| <!-- Scales, 7 -->
| 0<!-- Scales, 7 -->
| 0<!-- Scales, 8 -->
| 0<!-- Scales, 8 -->
| <!-- Scales, 9 -->
| 0<!-- Scales, 9 -->
| 0<!-- Scales, 10 -->
| 0<!-- Scales, 10 -->
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| Arpeggios
| Arpeggios
| <!-- Arpeggios, 6 -->
| <!-- Arpeggios, 6 -->
| <!-- Arpeggios, 7 -->
| 0<!-- Arpeggios, 7 -->
| 6<!-- Arpeggios, 8 -->
| 6<!-- Arpeggios, 8 -->
| <!-- Arpeggios, 9 -->
| 0<!-- Arpeggios, 9 -->
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| 17<!-- Ditty, 8 -->
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| <!-- Folk, 15 -->
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| <!-- Ballad, 15 -->
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| 21<!-- Ballad, 17 -->
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| 35<!-- Ballad, 22 -->
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| 45<!-- Waltz, 8 -->
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| 50<!-- Lullaby, 8 -->
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| 50<!-- Lullaby, 12 -->
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| <!-- Jig, 10 -->
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| 63<!-- Jig, 13 -->
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| 78<!-- Jig, 19 -->
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| <!-- Lament, 13 -->
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&#42; This is the point where I no longer had a faint difficulty with the previous song and moved up one level. I don't know if I could have done it earlier.[[User:Caraamon|Caraamon]] 21:34, 6 April 2008 (CDT)


There's the table. Thanks to Tierurremj, one unknown, and Khazera for their rank input. --[[User:Herald|Herald]] 09:19, 26 March 2008 (CDT)
There's the table. Thanks to Tierurremj, one unknown, and Khazera for their rank input. --[[User:Herald|Herald]] 09:19, 26 March 2008 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 15:23, 4 September 2010

Humming

I've found that there's a formula that brings Charisma in. I've been keeping track of at what ranks what can be hummed among four characters, and I'll add yours to the pot if you give me a heads up and your Charisma ranks here, I can fill out the chart and figure out if my formula is accurate. --Herald 18:59, 23 March 2008 (CDT)

The formula is shaping up to be a number - (Charisma/2). I still need to figure out if it rounds up or down, but the only character that has TDPs left is the one I'm trying to prove the formula at the high end with (something like 20 ranks to go). I'll have a character match against your 13 ranks shortly. My hypothesis is that it rounds up. Anyway, here's the numbers I've got in theory now.

Song Ranks
Scales 0
Arpeggios 10
Ditty 21
Folk 34
Ballad 41

Here's the distrobution chart of data I have so far. The numbers I have at the top are Charisma ratings. Feel free to fill in anything you find, and I'll transcribe it to Excel.

The table listing is for the LOWEST rank value (as a non-Bard) that you can get the "with only the slightest hint of difficulty" messaging with the given amount of Charisma.


Song 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
Scales 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Arpeggios 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22
Ditty 17 22 25 25 22
Folk 30 29 28 28
Ballad 37 36 35 35
Waltz 45 44 42 42 41
Lullaby 50 49 50 49 28 47
March 57 60 59 56 55 52
Jig 64 63 63 62 78* 61
Lament 80 77 88* 75
Wedding 91 90
Hymn 105 103 102
Rumba 128 127 124 122 119
Polka 148 148 144 143 139
Battle 168 163
Reel 188 183
Elegy 209 203
Serenade 224
Minuet
Psalm 250
Dirge 277
Gavotte 301
Tango
Tarantella
Bolero
Nocturne
Requiem
Fantasia
Rondo
Aria
Sonata
Concerto

* This is the point where I no longer had a faint difficulty with the previous song and moved up one level. I don't know if I could have done it earlier.Caraamon 21:34, 6 April 2008 (CDT)

There's the table. Thanks to Tierurremj, one unknown, and Khazera for their rank input. --Herald 09:19, 26 March 2008 (CDT)

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