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==Features==
== Nice work on the wood/stone/gold table! ==


Very good way to compress all that info. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 17:56, 23 February 2015 (CST)
This is a great idea for an article. Thanks! --[[User:ISHARON|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON|talk]]) 22:48, 14 July 2016 (CDT)
: Yep! The GM's have been doing SO much with the features section this last year, it's worth some time to sort out what can be worn where, and when, and in tandem (or exclusion) with other stuff. Super great problem too have...oh no, we've got too many ways to make our characters unique from everyone else...woe! :) --[[Kythryn]] 23:46, 30 July 2016 (CDT)
: Thanks! We must have had a hive-mind thing going, I was going to merge all that stuff over at the same time you were doing it too (ran into the "this page has been edited since you started message and everything). Thanks for getting that done! --[[Kythryn]] 18:06, 23 February 2015 (CST)


==Ice Fest==
==Makeup Category==
<s>As a heads up, I moved the [[Makeup|makeup]] page to a category, so that related pages can be grouped using the wiki style instead of manually by item type. If you would like, feel free to read more about [[Special:Categories|categories]] on the [[Elanthipedia:Manual_of_Style/Categories_and_Concepts|MOS page]]. - [[Padhg]] <sup>([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])</sup> 19:46 18 November 2015 (UTC)</s>
: Ok, updated for the change, thanks. --[[Kythryn]] 11:06, 20 November 2015 (CST)


==Test Test Test==
You added a shop info on this fest info page, [[Ice Festival]] and I was wondering if you can tell me the source? I re-read the walkthru on DFP and cannot find any record of a pushcart inside Grubby's, so was trying to narrow it down a bit so I can create it as a shop page and get it referenced right.
Couldn't edit my primary character page, but can with the discussion page. Just taking the current system for a walk to see what's what...--[[Kythryn]] 12:47, 23 August 2016 (CDT)


==NEWS article titles==
It is all the info of this line and after..
Hi Kythryn, I'd like to invite you to the discussion on [[:Category_talk:News#Titles_for_News_articles]]. - [[User:RY4NPW|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]]) 10:15, 31 August 2016 (CDT)
Within the patchwork tent, where Grubby's Mole Smashin' Emporium was found, was also a pushcart with the following items for sale:


== All caps names ==
Thanks! [[User:LOREALI6|Linett]]


It's better to do something like this than to have an all caps name redirect. The first half is what the page is actually called, the second half is what you want it displayed as in that particular situation. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 10:18, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
: Any of the information I add to the festival pages comes from my own personal logs taken at the time, not DRFP. To quote my Word document for this specific information is the following, the the #6 referring to my own room numbers on my map of the area:
:: 6. Patchwork tent - mole smashin' game and polished ebonwood pushcart
::: On the ebonwood pushcart you see an ebony necklace made of interlaced batwings, a tattered storm-grey cloak fastened with a rusted skull-shaped clasp, a tarnished silver earring shaped like a grinning cat, a dented bronze pin engraved with the word "Pivo'hrr'shu", a set of pale hair beads carved to resemble twisted skeletons and a patina-covered bronze necklace adorned with a single mole skull.


<pre>[[Actual_Page_Name|ACTUAL PAGE NAME]]</pre>
: I would only have made a note in my log if I actually had eyes-on something, therefore I added it to the epedia page. Let me know if you have any other questions. --[[Kythryn]] 22:15, 6 March 2015 (CST)
:You don't even have to use the underscores, too! Either way, I updated the two news pages where you linked the all-caps names, so they point directly to the actual pages (Zoluren vs ZOLUREN), so I deleted all the all-caps versions since they're now not needed. The news updates are going great, and thank you again for making all those entries! --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 10:24, 5 September 2016 (CDT)


::"It's better to do something like this than to have an all caps name redirect."<br>
:: Okay great, here is the link to the store [[Polished Ebonwood Pushcart]], in case you have the room look or the prices. Thanks! [[User:LOREALI6|Linett]]
::The reason I had made the re-directs is that on every NEWS article going forward for the orders and prime events, those same ALL CAPS headers were going to be present. Rather than having to edit each of those sub-section every time those articles are updated, the REDIRECT from the all caps to the standardized version was to streamline a phrase that will be used over and over again. --[[Kythryn]] 10:54, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
:::How often are the news pages getting updated? Totally understand why there might be a need to streamline some stuff with a redirect, but my understanding is that we try to use redirects more for when people are typing something in shorthand and expect to get a result, vs not wanting to do some manual editing when uploading content. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 11:13, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
::::I believe the articles in the Events category (NEWS 4) get updated at the start of each month. I had kind of "white noised" the news system the last few years, so this project has been refreshing my memory on how it works, so that category could get updated more or less frequently. Some, like the Policies (NEWS 5) have some articles in there from the early 2000's, and editing those for specific links makes sense and that's what we've done for them already. --[[Kythryn]] 11:28, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
:::::I've restored the redirects for the time being, with the mindset that we'll wait and see how often they have to get used, and if we can streamline things without them and/or doing links as suggested don't become a burden. I'd ''strongly'' prefer that we don't use redirects in this manner on our end, and I don't want someone to get an all-caps redirect when searching for Zoluren on epedia or google, but that could just be me being picky.<br/><br/>Either way, I'm glad to see the news articles getting done, so thank you for tackling that. I'm hoping we'll be able to eventually do more than just a direct text dump, because having it be an explicit in-game reflection kinda bugs me (for reasons like section headers screaming in all caps), but that's more a formatting/design thing than anything else. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 11:35, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
:::::: Sounds good. Either way (redirects or not) will work out fine, and if it is really bugging you, go ahead and change it back (again...heh). I'd just been thinking long-term to make things a little quicker for the future editors on those couple articles. I think letting this project "settle in" for a couple months, so we can see how often things are updated, is a good plan.
:::::: I did start making redlinks on those NEWS 4 pages as well. I'm hoping we can start populating some of the smaller events with just basic pages that can have the unique gifts, food/drinks, any anything notable for the event such as a game or raffle. I'd done a page like that for a party a few of us got together and did years ago (ok, we wanted the alterations, but why waste the party!), [[Alcohology 101]], and I'd like to see something similar set up for the smaller events going forward. That was my plan with the NEWS 4 stuff anyhow, and hopefully that will make those pages a little more interactive off the wiki-side of things. --[[Kythryn]] 11:56, 5 September 2016 (CDT)

== Thank you in advance ==

Awesome work for HE so far. It's appreciated. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 15:40, 29 October 2016 (CDT)

== Steelsilk Pants ==
They initially app'ed as arm worn (hah!), but instead of making the pants leg worm they made the arm worn armor into sleeves. Probably makes more sense in the latter context, anyway, since the T6 robes they go with have legs but no arms. Roundabout way of saying I'm pretty sure they were similarly tweaked in Plat. Thank you for adjusting the loot table accordingly! --[[User:TEVESHSZAT|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT|talk]]) 12:36, 7 November 2016 (CST)

==Hollow Eve==

Thank you so much for renumbering the chart! I haven't been able to get to it as soon as I would have liked. --[[User:ISHARON|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON|talk]]) 16:46, 9 November 2016 (CST)

Revision as of 17:46, 9 November 2016

Features

This is a great idea for an article. Thanks! --ISHARON (talk) 22:48, 14 July 2016 (CDT)

Yep! The GM's have been doing SO much with the features section this last year, it's worth some time to sort out what can be worn where, and when, and in tandem (or exclusion) with other stuff. Super great problem too have...oh no, we've got too many ways to make our characters unique from everyone else...woe!  :) --Kythryn 23:46, 30 July 2016 (CDT)

Makeup Category

As a heads up, I moved the makeup page to a category, so that related pages can be grouped using the wiki style instead of manually by item type. If you would like, feel free to read more about categories on the MOS page. - Padhg (talk) 19:46 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Ok, updated for the change, thanks. --Kythryn 11:06, 20 November 2015 (CST)

Test Test Test

Couldn't edit my primary character page, but can with the discussion page. Just taking the current system for a walk to see what's what...--Kythryn 12:47, 23 August 2016 (CDT)

NEWS article titles

Hi Kythryn, I'd like to invite you to the discussion on Category_talk:News#Titles_for_News_articles. - padhg (talk) 10:15, 31 August 2016 (CDT)

All caps names

It's better to do something like this than to have an all caps name redirect. The first half is what the page is actually called, the second half is what you want it displayed as in that particular situation. --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 10:18, 5 September 2016 (CDT)

[[Actual_Page_Name|ACTUAL PAGE NAME]]
You don't even have to use the underscores, too! Either way, I updated the two news pages where you linked the all-caps names, so they point directly to the actual pages (Zoluren vs ZOLUREN), so I deleted all the all-caps versions since they're now not needed. The news updates are going great, and thank you again for making all those entries! --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 10:24, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
"It's better to do something like this than to have an all caps name redirect."
The reason I had made the re-directs is that on every NEWS article going forward for the orders and prime events, those same ALL CAPS headers were going to be present. Rather than having to edit each of those sub-section every time those articles are updated, the REDIRECT from the all caps to the standardized version was to streamline a phrase that will be used over and over again. --Kythryn 10:54, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
How often are the news pages getting updated? Totally understand why there might be a need to streamline some stuff with a redirect, but my understanding is that we try to use redirects more for when people are typing something in shorthand and expect to get a result, vs not wanting to do some manual editing when uploading content. --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 11:13, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
I believe the articles in the Events category (NEWS 4) get updated at the start of each month. I had kind of "white noised" the news system the last few years, so this project has been refreshing my memory on how it works, so that category could get updated more or less frequently. Some, like the Policies (NEWS 5) have some articles in there from the early 2000's, and editing those for specific links makes sense and that's what we've done for them already. --Kythryn 11:28, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
I've restored the redirects for the time being, with the mindset that we'll wait and see how often they have to get used, and if we can streamline things without them and/or doing links as suggested don't become a burden. I'd strongly prefer that we don't use redirects in this manner on our end, and I don't want someone to get an all-caps redirect when searching for Zoluren on epedia or google, but that could just be me being picky.

Either way, I'm glad to see the news articles getting done, so thank you for tackling that. I'm hoping we'll be able to eventually do more than just a direct text dump, because having it be an explicit in-game reflection kinda bugs me (for reasons like section headers screaming in all caps), but that's more a formatting/design thing than anything else. --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 11:35, 5 September 2016 (CDT)
Sounds good. Either way (redirects or not) will work out fine, and if it is really bugging you, go ahead and change it back (again...heh). I'd just been thinking long-term to make things a little quicker for the future editors on those couple articles. I think letting this project "settle in" for a couple months, so we can see how often things are updated, is a good plan.
I did start making redlinks on those NEWS 4 pages as well. I'm hoping we can start populating some of the smaller events with just basic pages that can have the unique gifts, food/drinks, any anything notable for the event such as a game or raffle. I'd done a page like that for a party a few of us got together and did years ago (ok, we wanted the alterations, but why waste the party!), Alcohology 101, and I'd like to see something similar set up for the smaller events going forward. That was my plan with the NEWS 4 stuff anyhow, and hopefully that will make those pages a little more interactive off the wiki-side of things. --Kythryn 11:56, 5 September 2016 (CDT)

Thank you in advance

Awesome work for HE so far. It's appreciated. --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 15:40, 29 October 2016 (CDT)

Steelsilk Pants

They initially app'ed as arm worn (hah!), but instead of making the pants leg worm they made the arm worn armor into sleeves. Probably makes more sense in the latter context, anyway, since the T6 robes they go with have legs but no arms. Roundabout way of saying I'm pretty sure they were similarly tweaked in Plat. Thank you for adjusting the loot table accordingly! --TEVESHSZAT (talk) 12:36, 7 November 2016 (CST)

Hollow Eve

Thank you so much for renumbering the chart! I haven't been able to get to it as soon as I would have liked. --ISHARON (talk) 16:46, 9 November 2016 (CST)