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'''''Note''' -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see [[Thief (Disambiguation)]].''
'''''Note''' -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see [[Thief (Disambiguation)]].''

::''Returning players may want to read the page for [[Returning Players]], and [[Thief Newbie Help Guide]] before continuing.''


{{guild infobox|guild=Thief|image=Small_teef_300.jpg
{{guild infobox|guild=Thief|image=Small_teef_300.jpg
|skill1=Survival|skill2a=Weapon|skill2b=Lore|skill3a=Armor|skill3b=Magic
|skill1=Survival|skill2a=Weapon|skill2b=Lore|skill3a=Armor|skill3b=Magic
|abilities=[[Khri]], [[Thief#Backstab|Backstab]], [[Thief#Sign|Sign]], [[Thief#Passages|Passages]], [[Voice Throw]], [[Thief#Slip|Slip]], [[Thief#Contacts|Contacts]], [[Lockpick Carving]], [[Poison Resistance]], [[Mark]]
|abilities=[[:Category:Khri|Khri]], [[Blindside]], [[Thief#Sign Language|Sign]], [[Thief#Passages|Passages]], [[Ventriloquism|Voice throw]], [[Slip]], [[Contact_command|Contact]], [[Lockpick carving]], [[Poison Resistance]], [[Mark]]
|mana=None}}
|mana=None}}


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:The young snake [[Varsyth|Kalag the sly]] has brought order to the guild.
:The young snake [[Varsyth|Kalag the sly]] has brought order to the guild.
; [[Therengia]]
; [[Therengia]]
:[[Crow]] and [[Yaurilua Suanealaena|Swan]] watch over their den.
:[[Crow (person)|Crow]] and [[Yaurilua Suanealaena|Swan]] watch over their den.
; [[Ilithi]]
; [[Ilithi]]
:The guild hall here is managed by [[Saishla]].
:The guild hall here is managed by [[Saishla]].
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:The Elven mistress [[Ivitha]] holds this province in an iron grip.
:The Elven mistress [[Ivitha]] holds this province in an iron grip.


=== Skillsets and Common Races===
=== Skillset===
A Thief's primary [[Guilds#Skill_Sets|skillset]] is {{catskill|Survival}}. {{Catskill|Weapon}} and {{catskill|Lore}} are secondary skillsets, with {{Catskill|Magic}} and {{Catskill|Armor}} as tertiaries.
A Thief's primary [[Guilds#Skill_Sets|skillset]] is {{catskill|Survival}}. {{Catskill|Weapon}} and {{catskill|Lore}} are secondary skillsets, with {{Catskill|Magic}} and {{Catskill|Armor}} as tertiaries.

According to the DragonRealms website, Thieves tend to be:

{|
| [[:Category:Elf|Elven]]
|align="right"| 26%
|-
| [[:Category:Human|Human]]
|align="right"| 20%
|-
| [[:Category:Halfling|Halfling]]
|align="right"| 15%
|-
| [[:Category:Prydaen|Prydaen]]
|align="right"| 11%
|-
| [[:Category:S'Kra Mur|S'Kra Mur]]
|align="right"| 10%
|}


===Crafting Affiliation===
===Crafting Affiliation===
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==Guild Abilities==
==Guild Abilities==
Most of these are considered in-game secrets.
All thief abilities are considered in-game secrets.


===Skill Bonusing System===
===Skill Bonusing System===
====[[Urban Bonus]]====
====[[Urban Bonus]]====
This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. [[Smirk command|<tt>SMIRK</tt>]] can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks.
This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. [[Smirk command|<tt> SMIRK SELF</tt>]] can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks. Urban bonus cannot be negative, it varies from 0 (neutral) to positive.


====Reputation====
====Reputation====
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====[[Confidence]]====
====[[Confidence]]====
This is the feeling a thief has for their own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to them, they will gain confidence in their skills overall. The thief can [[Smirk command|<tt>SMIRK</tt>]](see SMIRK for full list of confidence messages) to tell how confident in their skills they currently are. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for them, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks.
This is the feeling a thief has for their own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to them, they will gain confidence in their skills overall. The thief can [[Smirk command|<tt>SMIRK SELF</tt>]](see SMIRK for full list of confidence messages) to tell how confident in their skills they currently are. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for them, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks.


Confidence can vary from positive to negative.
*Not yet completely implemented, right now only [[stealth skill|stealth]], [[backstab skill|backstab]], and [[thievery skill|thievery]] will modify a thief's confidence. Will be changed when fully implemented.


*Right now only [[stealth skill|stealth]], [[blindside skill|blindside]], and [[thievery skill|thievery]] will modify a thief's confidence.
===Backstab===

[[Backstab_command|<tt>BACKSTAB</tt>]]bing is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding and inserting a narrow blade into an important organ. This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. Backstabbing can only be performed using [[Small_Edged_skill|Small Edged]] (light or medium) weapons that weigh 30 [[stones]] or under and must be performed from hiding at melee distance. Backstabbing utilizes and teaches the [[Backstab skill]], a weapon skill, and the [[Stealth skill]] versus an opponents [[Perception skill]] and limited defenses. Only bipeds can be backstabbed, including these [[Property:Creature_is_backstabbable|Creatures]].
*Starting [[Khri]] now checks confidence. It is possible to not be able to use some [[Khri]] with low [[confidence]].

===[[Blindside]]===
[[Blindside]] is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding with a high damage attack.

This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. It requires melee range, hiding, and a melee weapon.


===Sign Language===
===Sign Language===

A secret language using slight hand gestures to communicate between Thieves. This ability is taught by the silent guildleader, Crow. At least one hand must be empty to perform [[sign_command|<tt>SIGN</tt>]]. Each sign creates a random chance that someone in the room will notice the signing, though they won't be able to interpret it.
A secret, thief only, language. It uses sleight of hand to communicate with other thieves. With enough perception, non-thieves may notice the hand motions. This skill is taught by the lovely assistant to the guild leader Crow


===Passages===
===Passages===
Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town. In Shard there is a large interconnected passage system. In Riverhaven there is small passage system with 3 entry points. In Throne City a passage there allows access to the rooftop of the [[Museum of Imperial History]].
Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town, but no central hub. Shard features a large, interconnected, passage system while Riverhaven has a system which combines a small hub and many not-connected bolt-holes. The only passage in Throne City access to the rooftop of the [[Museum of Imperial History]].


===Contacts===
===[[contact_command|Contacts]]===
The guild has [[contact_command|<tt>CONTACT</tt>]]s in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5, which can be doing work simultaneously.
The guild has [[contact_command|Contact]]s in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5. Up to 5 may be used simultaneously.


===[[Lockpick_carving|Lockpick Carving]]===
USAGE: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> [FIND|TELL] ([Message] When used with TELL.)</tt>
Lockpick [[fix_command|repair]] and Lockpick [[Carve_command|carving]] are Thief-only abilities that can be attempted beginning at 12th Circle. Lockpick carving involves creating a lockpick by carving a keyblank with a knife. The greater the Lockpicking skill and agility, the better quality of lockpick. Read more in the [[Lockpick Carving]] article.
: <tt>CONTACT GUILD</tt> while in Riverhaven for a hint to guild location.
: <tt>CONTACT FIX</tt> while holding the item in your RIGHT hand.
: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> DELIVER</tt> while holding the item in your RIGHT hand.
: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> DISTANT [<CITY NAME>|ALL] [FIND|TELL] <message></tt>
:: Valid cities are:
:: Crossings, Leth, Riverhaven, Langenfirth
:: Theren, Shard, Ratha, Aesry, Taisgath
:: Mer'Kresh, Throne City, Muspar'i, Hibarnhvidar
:: <tt>ALL</tt> will search every city, but at a substantial cost
: <tt>CONTACT <PERSON> THUG [OPTION]</tt>
:: Valid options are:
:: <tt>THEFT</tt> (default) - Sends your thugs after a non-Thief who steals.
:: <tt>ITEM</tt> - Sends your thugs to collect Ambika items from non-Thieves.
:: <tt>GRAVEROB</tt> - Sends your thugs after any Thief grave robber.


This is slated to become an ability all guilds can engage in, with the lore system rewrite. No current date is available.
===Lockpick Carving===
Lockpick [[fix_command|repair]] and Lockpick [[Carve_command|<tt>CARV</tt>]]ing are Thief-only abilities that can be attempted beginning at 12th Circle. Lockpick carving involves creating a lockpick by carving a keyblank with a knife. The greater the Lockpicking skill and agility, the better quality of lockpick. Read more in the [[Lockpick Carving]] article.


===Khri===
===[[:category:khri|Khri]]===
[[khri_command|<tt>KHRI</tt>]] is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to heightened awareness and dexterity. The Khri are taught by various guild leaders. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. You can get Focus, Hasten, and Darken at 10th circle. From then on you can learn a new Khri of your choice every 5 circles.
[[:category:khri|Khri]] is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to surpassing normal body limitations. All guild leaders teach all Khri. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. Thieves acquire [[:Category:Magic#Slot_Progression|slots]] for purchasing abilities as a tertiary guild.


Khri use [[Concentration]]; each one consumes a certain amount when the ability is started, and then will consume a smaller amount each time the ability pulses. Khri have a duration determined by skill, as well as a maximum duration. A thief's ability to maintain multiple khri is determine by his concentration and supernatural skill.
<imagemap>
Image:ThiefTree.png


Thieves have no ability to modify the concentration costs of abilities (unlike [[Mana]]-using classes)
rect 468 18 543 35 [[Category:Combination_Khri]]
rect 466 34 545 59 [[Khri_Secure]]
rect 468 58 546 80 [[Khri_Speed]]
rect 469 81 544 105 [[Khri_Spar]]
rect 467 104 545 127 [[Khri_Skulk]]
rect 467 125 544 152 [[Khri_Prescience]]
rect 467 150 545 173 [[Khri_Cunning]]
rect 8 7 71 26 [[Category:Subtlety_Tree]]
rect 5 145 72 166 [[Category:Finesse_Tree]]
rect 7 286 71 307 [[Category:Potency_Tree]]
rect 3 52 88 81 [[Khri_Darken]]
rect 7 195 85 221 [[Khri_Hasten]]
rect 6 336 85 361 [[Khri_Focus]]
rect 132 287 211 316 [[Khri_Prowess]]
rect 130 335 209 362 [[Khri_Sight]]
rect 131 381 208 410 [[Khri_Calm]]
rect 253 289 334 317 [[Khri_Steady]]
rect 253 337 333 364 [[Khri_Eliminate]]
rect 253 383 333 409 [[Khri_Serenity]]
rect 130 148 210 175 [[Khri_Safe]]
rect 129 195 209 221 [[Khri_Avoidance]]
rect 130 241 210 269 [[Khri_Plunder]]
rect 254 194 334 221 [[Khri_Flight]]
rect 377 192 458 224 [[Khri_Liberation]]
rect 253 243 333 268 [[Khri_Guile]]
rect 377 242 457 267 [[Khri_Elusion]]
rect 129 6 209 33 [[Khri_Dampen]]
rect 129 53 210 79 [[Khri_Strike]]
rect 128 100 209 126 [[Khri_Silence]]
rect 254 7 335 33 [[Khri_Shadowstep]]
rect 253 52 334 80 [[Khri_Sensing]]
rect 252 100 333 129 [[Khri_Vanish]]
rect 377 383 459 409 [[Khri_Sagacity]]


Thieves get an additional Khri slot for being subscribers.
desc none
</imagemap>


Please see the [[Thief abilities]] for more detailed information, including descriptions of individual khri.
===Ambush Moves===
*[[ambush_command|<tt>AMBUSH]] STUN</tt>: Done from hiding, will attempt to give the opponent a nasty crack on the head that has the potential to knock them completely unconscious. Causes head damage and short duration unconsciousness. Can be performed with any melee weapon with at least a certain level of impact damage (fair or somewhat moderate?) and possibly a minimum weight requirement, or with special brawling equipment sold in Thief shops. Success is based on your stealth and backstab ranks while weapon ranks play a minimal role. It is possible to very rapidly train almost any weapon on almost any creature using this maneuver regardless of your current weapon ranks. For example, you can use ambush stun to train 2HE with 0 ranks against creatures in the 300-400 rank tier. A minor bug causes creature corpses to rapidly decay if you deliver a killing blow with ambush stun.
*<tt>AMBUSH SLASH</tt>: Done from hiding, will attempt to cut the back of the opponent's ankles in order to drop them to the ground in pain. Requires a sharp instrument and possibly a great deal of strength.
*<tt>AMBUSH SIGHT</tt>: Done from hiding, blinds and disorients your target, assuming you hit. If you're stealthy, you will vanish after the strike.
*<tt>AMBUSH SCREEN</tt>: A technique to surround oneself with dirt, blinding and disorienting nearby foes, as well as revealing any who may be trying to lurk near you. If you're stealthy, you will vanish after the attack. Can be done in and out of hiding.
*<tt>AMBUSH CLOUT</tt>: Done from hiding without a weapon, this attack will put a target to sleep temporarily.


===[[Thief_ambushes|Ambush Moves]]===
===Slip===
Thieves have special guild-only ambush moves. These require a physical component, like dirt or a melee weapon, and usually require hiding and melee range.
{|
|-
|[[Slip|<tt>SLIP]] <nowiki><person> COIN <ear|nose|mouth|wound> <easy/hard></nowiki></tt>||[Sleight of hand magic]
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <person> <amount> (<type> <name> OPTIONAL)</nowiki></tt>||[Silent giving of coins]
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <right|left|item></nowiki></tt>||[Silent stowing of an item into your packs]
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <item></nowiki></tt>||[Silent getting of an item from your packs]<br>- Addition 1: Works on WORN items.<br>- Addition 2: Works with items ON THE GROUND.
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SLIP <person> <right|left|item> <pack|hand></nowiki></tt>||[Silent giving of items]
|-
|<tt><nowiki>STALK <person|creature> (while unhidden)</nowiki></tt>||[Hide + Stalk of target]
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SNEAK <direction> (while unhidden)</nowiki></tt>||[Hide + Sneak in direction]
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SLIP HELP</nowiki></tt>||Lists known Slips
|-
|<tt><nowiki>SLIP TEACH <person></nowiki></tt>||Teach slips to eligible people
|}


Thief ambushes are taught by specific guild leaders, so a potential thief should be ready to travel.
===Voice Throw===
Some Voice Throw abilities are learned from a guild leaders, others are taught by Bard player characters who also possess the Voice Throw abilities but with slightly different uses.
*Different directions. <tt>[[Throw_Voice|THROW VOICE]] OUT <message>.</tt>
*Objects you see lying around. <tt>THROW VOICE <item> <message>.</tt>
*Items in/on/behind/under item on the ground. <tt>THROW VOICE <item> in/on/behind/under <item> <message>.</tt>
*Items on critters. <tt>THROW VOICE <item> on <critter> <message>.</tt>
*At critters. <tt>THROW VOICE <critter> <message>.</tt>


Ambushes require a khri slot to learn.
===Mark===


See [[ambush]] or [[Thief_ambushes|Thief ambushes]]
See [[Mark|<tt>MARK</tt>]] for full details.


===[[Slip]]===
===Reduced Load While Hidden===
[[Slip]] is a command thieves share with several other guilds, including bards and rangers. Thieves have the widest variety of options, and learn them earlier.


===[[Ventriloquism|Voice Throw]]===
Thieves of sufficient skill and level can use [[Ventriloquism]] in several ways. This is an ability shared with Bards, and may only be learned from a member of that guild.

===[[Mark]]===
Mark is a thief-only command which allows the thief to gauge the difficulty of stealing from another player, fighting an opponent, or shoplifting from a store.

See [[Mark]] for full details.

===Reduced Load While Hidden===
With sufficient skill, Thieves do not incur the +1 second penalty that other guilds incur for loading ranged weapons while hidden.
With sufficient skill, Thieves do not incur the +1 second penalty that other guilds incur for loading ranged weapons while hidden.


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==={{catskill|Armor}} Skills===
==={{catskill|Armor}} Skills===
[[Light Armor skill|Leather Armor]] is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light [[Appraisal_skill#Armor_.26_Shield|stealth hindrance]]. One may consider Cloth Armor to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of lower absorption.


The armor for sale in [[Tembeg's Armory]] is good for new characters - it is very close to player crafted quality, at an affordable price. Most other store bought armor is not recommended, as it typically has very poor protection, very high hindrance, and is much heavier than the Tembeg sets or player crafted armor.
[[Light Armor skill|Leather Armor]] is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light [[Appraisal_skill#Armor_.26_Shield|stealth hindrance]]. One may consider Cloth Armor to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of lower absorbtion.


==={{catskill|Magic}} Skills===
Many elder thieves and rangers alike have found themselves using tanned (player made) leather torso armor with chain armor on their hands and heads in modern times, due to chains better protection against critical stunning hits, and negligible hindrance because of their already high level of ranks in the Leather Armor skill, as well as for the benefit of more [[TDPs]]. For this hand and head protection Thieves typically find [[Chain_Armor skill|Light Chain]] the armor of choice.
Thieves use magic skills to power their supernatural abilities (i.e. [[Khri]]) in a manner similar to magic classes. This means they require ranks in the [[Augmentation]], [[Debilitation]], [[Primary Magic|Inner Magic]], [[Utility]], and [[Warding]] skills. The skillset is renamed for thieves, as supernatural instead of magic, though magic is an alias.


Thieves cannot learn [[Targeted Magic]] or [[Attunement]] skill, either through guild abilities or classes. If a thief joins a class on either, he will join as though he used the 'listen observe' command, and will gain no ranks in the magic skill (instead, all of the experience is awarded to scholarship). This is done so thieves can pretend to be magic users.
The best store bought full body armor for a beginning Thief is likely the [[Demiciil%27s_Armory|race size-specific set sold in Shard]], which run for a little under 6 plat dokora, and have very good protection with moderate hindrance. Despite this many choose to go with the more hindering sets [[The_Raven's_Mask|sold on Ratha]] or [[Seli's_Armory|in Riverhaven]], due to them being much, much cheaper. [[Brigetta's_Tanned_Goods|Wolf Clan]] leathers are not recommended due to their high weight, which will effect newer player's [[encumbrance]] more. Note that the hindrance mentioned here is the evasion hindering type, as all leathers now have the exact same amount of stealth hindrance regardless of protection and combat hindrance.


Thieves can learn [[Arcana skill|arcana skill]] from [[Item:Achaedi crystal|Achaedi crystals]] and [[Item:Sanowret crystal|sanowret crystals]]. They cannot harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth (although faux cambrinth exists to support disguises) or perceive mana. Thieves gain no inherent benefit or penalty from learning arcana, though it can reduce the difficulty and cost of activating some magical devices.
==={{catskill|Magic}} Skills===

Thieves do not have any abilities that teach any of what are considered the core magical skills. They currently may not harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth, or perceive the mana in a room. Thieves have been banned from employing runestones, although in the past such practices were allowable. They may however learn the [[arcana skill]] by itemic means that do not require them to harness mana or mentally prepare the spell. <strike>Items a Thief may learn the arcana skill from include: a fan sold in the [[Fenwyrthie's_Curio_Shop|Crossing's Estate Holder Shop]] ([[Zephyr]] spell); [[item:ilmenite-tipped wand|ilmenite-tipped wands]] ([[Lightning Bolt]] spell), [[item:narrow scheelite rod|scheelite rods]] ([[Fire Ball]] spell), and [[item:indakar rattle|indakar rattles]] ([[Protection from Evil]] spell) sold down in [[Sierack's_Reagents|Shard]]; azurite Thief charms ([[Shadows]] spell) and indakar-eyed cat charms ([[Protection from Evil]] spell) from a festival merchant; and the legendary [[Item:Achaedi crystal|Achaedi Crystal]].</strike> Most self-activating magical devices that taught magic skills are currently not working under the Magic 3.0 system.
Thieves may use scholarship to read spell scrolls to identify them, but cannot invoke or learn them.

Thieves cannot focus on runestones to identify them. Thieves cannot activate runestones.


==Guild History==
==Guild History==
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==Circle Requirements==
==Circle Requirements==


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Revision as of 08:39, 6 September 2019

Note -- This page refers to the Thief Guild, for a list of disambiguities, see Thief (Disambiguation).

Returning players may want to read the page for Returning Players, and Thief Newbie Help Guide before continuing.


Thief Guild
Thief

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Primary Skillset: Survival
Secondary Skillsets: Weapon, Lore
Tertiary Skillsets: Armor, Magic
Special Abilities: Khri, Blindside, Sign, Passages, Voice throw, Slip, Contact, Lockpick carving, Poison Resistance, Mark
Mana Type: None
Barbarian - Bard - Cleric - Commoner - Empath - Moon Mage

Necromancer - Paladin - Ranger - Thief - Trader - Warrior Mage

Beyond skulking in shadows and relieving the careless of their burden of coin, Thieves' superior stealth, hyper-aware senses, and familiarity with locks and traps make them valuable additions to any adventuring party.

A life in the shadows is like no other -- never above the law, but always one step in front of it.

Official Information

Guild crest: A blank charger shrouded by a concealing veil

Information courtesy of Dragonrealms Website.

Guild Hall Locations

That is a secret -- think of gaining entry to the guild as your first test.

Zoluren
The young snake Kalag the sly has brought order to the guild.
Therengia
Crow and Swan watch over their den.
Ilithi
The guild hall here is managed by Saishla.
Qi'Reshalia
The criminal element of Qi'Reshalia is overseen by Dwillig.
Forfedhdar
The Elven mistress Ivitha holds this province in an iron grip.

Skillset

A Thief's primary skillset is Survival. Weapon and Lore are secondary skillsets, with Magic and Armor as tertiaries.

Crafting Affiliation

Guilded thieves receive two free technique slots in the Carving discipline of the Engineering skill and one free technique slot in the Poison discipline of the Alchemy skill.

See: Crafting

Guild Abilities

All thief abilities are considered in-game secrets.

Skill Bonusing System

Urban Bonus

This is dependent on where the thief is currently located. Thieves are most comfortable in places populated by the masses and/or with structures artificially created. SMIRK SELF can be used by a thief to discern if the location is very urban, urban, neutral, or wilderness. This portion of the thief's bonus will directly raise the effective ranks a thief will use when doing contested actions. In the wilderness the thief is working with no urban bonus so can in essence only be using base ranks. Urban bonus cannot be negative, it varies from 0 (neutral) to positive.

Reputation

This is a reflection of how the guild currently views the member. Bringing heat down upon the guild by being caught breaking the law of the province will lower the reputation of the member causing the thief to be without the aid of the guild as a whole. A thief with a reputation at the lowest point will be punished when entering the guild by Death. Standing in the guild can be raised with donations of stolen goods into the appropriate bins, performing a TASK for an NPC associated with the Thief Guild and by not being wanted by the law of the province.

Confidence

This is the feeling a thief has for their own skills. When a thief performs a skill successfully that is of some risk to them, they will gain confidence in their skills overall. The thief can SMIRK SELF(see SMIRK for full list of confidence messages) to tell how confident in their skills they currently are. If a thief botches a skill check that should be easy for them, confidence level will lower. A low confidence will hinder a thief's base ranks by 5% and can negate the urban bonus of where the thief is located. The bonuses to skills from high confidence and a good urban spot will stack, giving the thief a good edge on difficult tasks.

Confidence can vary from positive to negative.

  • Starting Khri now checks confidence. It is possible to not be able to use some Khri with low confidence.

Blindside

Blindside is the act of surprising an opponent from hiding with a high damage attack.

This attack, when successful, causes far more damage and death than a simple ambush or weapon attack. It requires melee range, hiding, and a melee weapon.

Sign Language

A secret, thief only, language. It uses sleight of hand to communicate with other thieves. With enough perception, non-thieves may notice the hand motions. This skill is taught by the lovely assistant to the guild leader Crow

Passages

Thief-only shortcuts and hideouts found throughout several Elanthian cities. In The Crossing there are many passages spread around town, but no central hub. Shard features a large, interconnected, passage system while Riverhaven has a system which combines a small hub and many not-connected bolt-holes. The only passage in Throne City access to the rooftop of the Museum of Imperial History.

Contacts

The guild has Contacts in each major city and some smaller cities that can do a variety of small tasks. For each 20 circles a Thief has they will gain the use of 1 additional contact, up to a maximum of 5. Up to 5 may be used simultaneously.

Lockpick Carving

Lockpick repair and Lockpick carving are Thief-only abilities that can be attempted beginning at 12th Circle. Lockpick carving involves creating a lockpick by carving a keyblank with a knife. The greater the Lockpicking skill and agility, the better quality of lockpick. Read more in the Lockpick Carving article.

This is slated to become an ability all guilds can engage in, with the lore system rewrite. No current date is available.

Khri

Khri is a Thief-only ability based on intense concentration that leads to surpassing normal body limitations. All guild leaders teach all Khri. "Khri" is both the singular and the plural term. Thieves acquire slots for purchasing abilities as a tertiary guild.

Khri use Concentration; each one consumes a certain amount when the ability is started, and then will consume a smaller amount each time the ability pulses. Khri have a duration determined by skill, as well as a maximum duration. A thief's ability to maintain multiple khri is determine by his concentration and supernatural skill.

Thieves have no ability to modify the concentration costs of abilities (unlike Mana-using classes)

Thieves get an additional Khri slot for being subscribers.

Please see the Thief abilities for more detailed information, including descriptions of individual khri.

Ambush Moves

Thieves have special guild-only ambush moves. These require a physical component, like dirt or a melee weapon, and usually require hiding and melee range.

Thief ambushes are taught by specific guild leaders, so a potential thief should be ready to travel.

Ambushes require a khri slot to learn.

See ambush or Thief ambushes

Slip

Slip is a command thieves share with several other guilds, including bards and rangers. Thieves have the widest variety of options, and learn them earlier.

Voice Throw

Thieves of sufficient skill and level can use Ventriloquism in several ways. This is an ability shared with Bards, and may only be learned from a member of that guild.

Mark

Mark is a thief-only command which allows the thief to gauge the difficulty of stealing from another player, fighting an opponent, or shoplifting from a store.

See Mark for full details.

Reduced Load While Hidden

With sufficient skill, Thieves do not incur the +1 second penalty that other guilds incur for loading ranged weapons while hidden.

Important Skills

Survival Skills

Thieves need to train a minimum of 8 survival skills to advance consistently in the guild, with Stealth and Thievery skills as a Soft Requirement; meaning they can also count as Nth skills.

Some survival skills Thieves might find important:


Weapon Skills

Thieves need two weapons to advance in the guild. Most thieves would suggest one to be a Small Edged weapon user for employ in backstabbing, as well as general combat.

If not at first, by later on in a Thief's career they will probably want to train the Brawling skill and be trained in the use of either Bow skill or Crossbow skill as well.

A Thief may also want to train Light Thrown weapons if they wish to excel at throwing dirt in the face of their opponents.

Lore Skills

Three of the many lore skills are required for gaining circles as a thief. Tactics, Appraisal and Scholarship are excellent choices, as is one of the various crafting skills.

Armor Skills

Leather Armor is an excellent choice that offers good protection and light stealth hindrance. One may consider Cloth Armor to be an option as well, which is the least stealth hindering at the cost of lower absorption.

The armor for sale in Tembeg's Armory is good for new characters - it is very close to player crafted quality, at an affordable price. Most other store bought armor is not recommended, as it typically has very poor protection, very high hindrance, and is much heavier than the Tembeg sets or player crafted armor.

Magic Skills

Thieves use magic skills to power their supernatural abilities (i.e. Khri) in a manner similar to magic classes. This means they require ranks in the Augmentation, Debilitation, Inner Magic, Utility, and Warding skills. The skillset is renamed for thieves, as supernatural instead of magic, though magic is an alias.

Thieves cannot learn Targeted Magic or Attunement skill, either through guild abilities or classes. If a thief joins a class on either, he will join as though he used the 'listen observe' command, and will gain no ranks in the magic skill (instead, all of the experience is awarded to scholarship). This is done so thieves can pretend to be magic users.

Thieves can learn arcana skill from Achaedi crystals and sanowret crystals. They cannot harness mana, cast spells, charge cambrinth (although faux cambrinth exists to support disguises) or perceive mana. Thieves gain no inherent benefit or penalty from learning arcana, though it can reduce the difficulty and cost of activating some magical devices.

Thieves may use scholarship to read spell scrolls to identify them, but cannot invoke or learn them.

Thieves cannot focus on runestones to identify them. Thieves cannot activate runestones.

Guild History

Kalag Ka'Hurst founded the Zoluren Thieves Guild around the start of the Elanthian Calendar, just as the Dragon Priest war was ending. All guild leaders following have taken the name "Kalag" as their own, until the most recent leader, Varsyth, who has stated he will not follow in that tradition. Varsyth has since adopted the name Kalag the Sly.

Kalag's tale and therefore the founding of the guild is described in two books residing within the Zoluren Thieves Guild library:

The memoirs tell of how Kalag first came to River Crossing, fleeing his hometown which had been beset by famine. Kalag came across an old man being attacked in the streets and helped fight with the old man. After the encounter Kalag learned the man was a well-known locksmith named Lyanothe, who then offered to teach Kalag many skills in return for Kalag's work as a runner and business partner.

One day their hideout was discovered and Kalag proposed they move to the sewers, for its easy access to anywhere in the city and its superior defensibility from foes. Kalag and Lyanothe became well known and opened their home to locksmithing students. This band of students began cross-training each other in skills that collectively made them qualified thieves. Kalag proposed they form a Thieves Guild and bring in other members from around the town that were engaged in criminal enterprises.

Kalag planned to have the guild recognized by the city council, but then the Dragon Priest army came to town. The Thieves Guild united against the army and their cunning helped defeat the Dragon Priests. Their actions and some support from the shrewd Trader guildleader earned them official acknowledgment by the city. And thus the Zoluren Thieves Guild was formed.

Thief Council

The governing body of all Thieves Guilds in the Five Provinces. Little is known.

Major Thief Events

  • Inquisitor Anamir's discovery of the Zoluren and Therengia Thief guild halls.
  • Ishtvan's attempt to violently overthrow Kalag and install Ladoc as new Zoluren Thief Guild leader and the deal made to train Ishtvan's men in the Crossing's sewers.
  • The Thief Guild Council suspects Kalag the Black's loyalty to the Guild.
  • Zoluren General Zukir's destruction of the Zoluren Thief guild and Kalag the Black's subsequent death.
  • Varsyth, later known as Kalag the Sly appointed new Zoluren Thief Guild leader.

Thief Merchants

Circle Requirements

Skillset Skill 1-10 11-30 31-70 71-100 101-150 150+
survival Thievery 2 3 3 4 4 10
survival Stealth 2 2 3 3 4 10
survival 1st Survival 4 4 5 5 6 15
survival 2nd Survival 4 4 4 5 6 15
survival 3rd Survival 3 4 4 5 6 15
survival 4th Survival 3 4 4 5 6 15
survival 5th Survival 3 4 4 4 5 13
survival 6th Survival 2 3 4 4 5 13
survival 7th Survival 2 3 3 4 5 13
survival 8th Survival 1 2 2 3 3 8
weapons 1st Weapon 3 3 4 4 5 13
weapons 2nd Weapon 1 2 3 3 4 10
weapons Parry Ability 1 2 2 3 3 8
lore 1st Lore 1 2 3 3 4 10
lore 2nd Lore 1 2 2 3 3 8
lore 3rd Lore 1 1 2 3 3 8
armor 1st Armor 2 2 2 3 3 8
magic Inner Magic 1 2 3 3 4 10
magic 1st Magic 1 2 2 3 3 10
magic 2nd Magic 0 0 2 2 4 8

Thievery and Stealth are soft requirements (can be used toward Nth survival requirements).


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