Template talk:Critter at a Glance - Revision history

CARAAMON at 18:25, 2 October 2008

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	Anyone have an idea what the ranges are on appraising critter stats? Curious what qualifies as "about as agile" and the other lines.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes\|Glimmereyes]] 21:24, 1 October 2008 (CDT)		Anyone have an idea what the ranges are on appraising critter stats? Curious what qualifies as "about as agile" and the other lines.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes\|Glimmereyes]] 21:24, 1 October 2008 (CDT)
			:I know "about as", is not exactly the same. There is a "exactly as". -[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 13:25, 2 October 2008 (CDT)

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	The poachable category is rather redundant and I'm not conviced it's needed as a seperate row. From what I've seen a creature is either backstabbable or it is poachable. There might be an exception to the rule out there somewhere but I've never seen one. Creatures are either one or the other, never both. So essentialy poachable = nonbackstabbable and backstabbable = nonpoachable.		The poachable category is rather redundant and I'm not conviced it's needed as a seperate row. From what I've seen a creature is either backstabbable or it is poachable. There might be an exception to the rule out there somewhere but I've never seen one. Creatures are either one or the other, never both. So essentialy poachable = nonbackstabbable and backstabbable = nonpoachable.
	[[User:Cierst\|Cierst]] ([[User talk:Crazyfoolusc\|talk]]) 22:25, 29 June 2008 (CDT)		[[User:Cierst\|Cierst]] ([[User talk:Crazyfoolusc\|talk]]) 22:25, 29 June 2008 (CDT)

			== Stats ==

			Anyone have an idea what the ranges are on appraising critter stats? Curious what qualifies as "about as agile" and the other lines.<br>-[[User:Glimmereyes\|Glimmereyes]] 21:24, 1 October 2008 (CDT)

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	I don't think the yellow warning box is at all necessary. It's pretty obvious if data is missing. At the most it should add the [[Template:Incomplete\|Incomplete]] template, minus the box that it adds (see my discussion [[Template_talk:Incomplete\|there]]). --[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 20:04, 13 June 2008 (CDT)		I don't think the yellow warning box is at all necessary. It's pretty obvious if data is missing. At the most it should add the [[Template:Incomplete\|Incomplete]] template, minus the box that it adds (see my discussion [[Template_talk:Incomplete\|there]]). --[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 20:04, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

			==Poachable==

			The poachable category is rather redundant and I'm not conviced it's needed as a seperate row. From what I've seen a creature is either backstabbable or it is poachable. There might be an exception to the rule out there somewhere but I've never seen one. Creatures are either one or the other, never both. So essentialy poachable = nonbackstabbable and backstabbable = nonpoachable.
			[[User:Cierst\|Cierst]] ([[User talk:Crazyfoolusc\|talk]]) 22:25, 29 June 2008 (CDT)

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	I did a major revision of the template, mostly regarding category inclusion. I did this to make the categories more expressly indicate that they were creature categories.-[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:22, 3 June 2008 (CDT)		I did a major revision of the template, mostly regarding category inclusion. I did this to make the categories more expressly indicate that they were creature categories.-[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:22, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

			== Warning Box ==

			I don't think the yellow warning box is at all necessary. It's pretty obvious if data is missing. At the most it should add the [[Template:Incomplete\|Incomplete]] template, minus the box that it adds (see my discussion [[Template_talk:Incomplete\|there]]). --[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 20:04, 13 June 2008 (CDT)

CARAAMON: New section: Template Revision

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New section: Template Revision

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	FWIW Kraelyst uncovered a gap in the category code where '''Evil''' and '''Corporeal''' must ''both'' be defined, or neither. Defining one without the other causes a nonsense category. --[[User:Farman\|Farman]] 15:32, 20 October 2007 (CDT)		FWIW Kraelyst uncovered a gap in the category code where '''Evil''' and '''Corporeal''' must ''both'' be defined, or neither. Defining one without the other causes a nonsense category. --[[User:Farman\|Farman]] 15:32, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
	:Both fixed! -[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:08, 3 June 2008 (CDT)		:Both fixed! -[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:08, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

			== Template Revision ==

			I did a major revision of the template, mostly regarding category inclusion. I did this to make the categories more expressly indicate that they were creature categories.-[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:22, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

CARAAMON at 02:08, 4 June 2008

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	FWIW Kraelyst uncovered a gap in the category code where '''Evil''' and '''Corporeal''' must ''both'' be defined, or neither. Defining one without the other causes a nonsense category. --[[User:Farman\|Farman]] 15:32, 20 October 2007 (CDT)		FWIW Kraelyst uncovered a gap in the category code where '''Evil''' and '''Corporeal''' must ''both'' be defined, or neither. Defining one without the other causes a nonsense category. --[[User:Farman\|Farman]] 15:32, 20 October 2007 (CDT)
			:Both fixed! -[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Strugr-Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:08, 3 June 2008 (CDT)

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DoesYesNotNoYesNotNotBlankMaybe ... aaaagh!

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	:--[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 22:28, 19 April 2007 (CDT)		:--[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 22:28, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
	::I agree. I think that something like this should be in a separate guide/table. The data could be on individual pages perhaps as well, but the need for a table format with all creatures, or all creatures in a certain skill range, would be best. That way, one could glance at it if trying to gauge what creature to hunt for their skill level instead of having to search through individual beastiary pages.--[[User:Naeya\|Naeya]] ([[User talk:Naeya\|talk]]) 22:35, 19 April 2007 (CDT)		::I agree. I think that something like this should be in a separate guide/table. The data could be on individual pages perhaps as well, but the need for a table format with all creatures, or all creatures in a certain skill range, would be best. That way, one could glance at it if trying to gauge what creature to hunt for their skill level instead of having to search through individual beastiary pages.--[[User:Naeya\|Naeya]] ([[User talk:Naeya\|talk]]) 22:35, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

			== DoesYesNotNoYesNotNotBlankMaybe ... aaaagh! ==

			I think the use of nested sub-templates is an overly-complex, and difficult to debug, way to define categories based on what parameters are set for a given critter. It could be done a lot more clearly and efficiently by using the '''#ifeq''' and/or '''#switch''' parser functions, and without requiring all those extra template articles. Maybe we didn't have those parser functions in the wiki when this was originally written, but since we do now, I'll try and find time over the next few weeks to work this change in.

			FWIW Kraelyst uncovered a gap in the category code where '''Evil''' and '''Corporeal''' must ''both'' be defined, or neither. Defining one without the other causes a nonsense category. --[[User:Farman\|Farman]] 15:32, 20 October 2007 (CDT)

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Skill caps

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	:I think that could get too involved and perhaps not very useful for these pages since you could feasibly add all the other skills like TM, hiding, stalking, escaping, perception, disarm and lock (and whatever else), never mind all the variables introduced by stats, spells, and class bonuses. Either it should be a very general skill level (ie you need about 100 effective ranks in applicable skills to survive/train in blood wolves) or there should be a separate "hunting guide" page that lists all the above info either in one massive table or separate tables per skill. EDIT: Like I see you're already trying out on your user page.		:I think that could get too involved and perhaps not very useful for these pages since you could feasibly add all the other skills like TM, hiding, stalking, escaping, perception, disarm and lock (and whatever else), never mind all the variables introduced by stats, spells, and class bonuses. Either it should be a very general skill level (ie you need about 100 effective ranks in applicable skills to survive/train in blood wolves) or there should be a separate "hunting guide" page that lists all the above info either in one massive table or separate tables per skill. EDIT: Like I see you're already trying out on your user page.
	:--[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 22:28, 19 April 2007 (CDT)		:--[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 22:28, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
			::I agree. I think that something like this should be in a separate guide/table. The data could be on individual pages perhaps as well, but the need for a table format with all creatures, or all creatures in a certain skill range, would be best. That way, one could glance at it if trying to gauge what creature to hunt for their skill level instead of having to search through individual beastiary pages.--[[User:Naeya\|Naeya]] ([[User talk:Naeya\|talk]]) 22:35, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

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	[[User:Da next pope\|Da Next Pope]] ([[User_talk:Da next pope\|talk]]) 12:47, 19 April 2007 (CDT)		[[User:Da next pope\|Da Next Pope]] ([[User_talk:Da next pope\|talk]]) 12:47, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
	:I think that could get too involved and perhaps not very useful for these pages since you could feasibly add all the other skills like TM, hiding, stalking, escaping, perception, disarm and lock (and whatever else), never mind all the variables introduced by stats, spells, and class bonuses. Either it should be a very general skill level (ie you need about 100 effective ranks in applicable skills to survive/train in blood wolves) or there should be a separate "hunting guide" page that lists all the above info either in one massive table or separate tables per skill.		:I think that could get too involved and perhaps not very useful for these pages since you could feasibly add all the other skills like TM, hiding, stalking, escaping, perception, disarm and lock (and whatever else), never mind all the variables introduced by stats, spells, and class bonuses. Either it should be a very general skill level (ie you need about 100 effective ranks in applicable skills to survive/train in blood wolves) or there should be a separate "hunting guide" page that lists all the above info either in one massive table or separate tables per skill. EDIT: Like I see you're already trying out on your user page.
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	[[User:Da next pope\|Da Next Pope]] ([[User_talk:Da next pope\|talk]]) 12:47, 19 April 2007 (CDT)		[[User:Da next pope\|Da Next Pope]] ([[User_talk:Da next pope\|talk]]) 12:47, 19 April 2007 (CDT)
			:I think that could get too involved and perhaps not very useful for these pages since you could feasibly add all the other skills like TM, hiding, stalking, escaping, perception, disarm and lock (and whatever else), never mind all the variables introduced by stats, spells, and class bonuses. Either it should be a very general skill level (ie you need about 100 effective ranks in applicable skills to survive/train in blood wolves) or there should be a separate "hunting guide" page that lists all the above info either in one massive table or separate tables per skill.
			:--[[User:Grindinghalt\|Grindinghalt]] 22:28, 19 April 2007 (CDT)