Talk:Rope - Revision history

ZUERCAT at 06:38, 25 September 2020

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	::: Some of the mistaken results might be coming from improper tagging too. I just updated the [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] to "climbing rope", which had been tagged as the "dancing rope" itype, and it did properly move it to the "Climbing Rope" section. It is currently back to "dancing" but it may be that a manual review of all the possible ropes is needed to confirm tags are correct. [[Kythryn]] 14:34, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		::: Some of the mistaken results might be coming from improper tagging too. I just updated the [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] to "climbing rope", which had been tagged as the "dancing rope" itype, and it did properly move it to the "Climbing Rope" section. It is currently back to "dancing" but it may be that a manual review of all the possible ropes is needed to confirm tags are correct. [[Kythryn]] 14:34, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	:::: I changed the itype on [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] as a test. Put it back, since it should be a "climbing" rope. Gonna back off on fiddling with this for now, so smarter folks can take a stab at it. I agree that the tagging is inconsistent. I also don't know why I can't distinguish between "climbing" and "dancing" itypes with ASK queries. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:59, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:::: I changed the itype on [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] as a test. Put it back, since it should be a "climbing" rope. Gonna back off on fiddling with this for now, so smarter folks can take a stab at it. I agree that the tagging is inconsistent. I also don't know why I can't distinguish between "climbing" and "dancing" itypes with ASK queries. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:59, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			::::: Ok, I figured out what was going sideways with ISearch and "dancing rope", although not why it was going sideways. My educated guess, based off the template calls, is that because "bundling rope" and "climbing ropes" come before "dancing rope", somehow they were getting searched correctly, but once you hit the evil "D" items, ISearch defaulted to "hey, they are ALL ropes, right?". Anyhow, I updated one of the rope pages with a new tag, <b>dancingrope</b> and when you use the template with that tag, it works fine:
			:::::: <pre>{{ISearch\|dancingrope}}</pre>
			:::::So yea, if anyone wants to dig more, I think the underlying problem comes with the template trying to sort through too many rope itypes (it is set up for 3 possible variations per call, maybe that applies for the entire page). That being said, I just went ahead and finished ''TK-421's'' work on the ASK queries, tinkered with the table layout, and that's where the page is at now...heh. [[Kythryn]] 01:38, 25 September 2020 (CDT)

TK-421 at 19:59, 23 September 2020

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	::: Is it working how you were envisioning now? --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		::: Is it working how you were envisioning now? --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	::: Some of the mistaken results might be coming from improper tagging too. I just updated the [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] to "climbing rope", which had been tagged as the "dancing rope" itype, and it did properly move it to the "Climbing Rope" section. It is currently back to "dancing" but it may be that a manual review of all the possible ropes is needed to confirm tags are correct. [[Kythryn]] 14:34, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		::: Some of the mistaken results might be coming from improper tagging too. I just updated the [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] to "climbing rope", which had been tagged as the "dancing rope" itype, and it did properly move it to the "Climbing Rope" section. It is currently back to "dancing" but it may be that a manual review of all the possible ropes is needed to confirm tags are correct. [[Kythryn]] 14:34, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			:::: I changed the itype on [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] as a test. Put it back, since it should be a "climbing" rope. Gonna back off on fiddling with this for now, so smarter folks can take a stab at it. I agree that the tagging is inconsistent. I also don't know why I can't distinguish between "climbing" and "dancing" itypes with ASK queries. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:59, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

ZUERCAT at 19:34, 23 September 2020

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	:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	::: Is it working how you were envisioning now? --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		::: Is it working how you were envisioning now? --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			::: Some of the mistaken results might be coming from improper tagging too. I just updated the [[Item:Dark climbing rope woven with strangely glowing threads]] to "climbing rope", which had been tagged as the "dancing rope" itype, and it did properly move it to the "Climbing Rope" section. It is currently back to "dancing" but it may be that a manual review of all the possible ropes is needed to confirm tags are correct. [[Kythryn]] 14:34, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

TK-421 at 19:28, 23 September 2020

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	:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			::: Is it working how you were envisioning now? --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

TK-421 at 19:08, 23 September 2020

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	:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

TK-421 at 19:01, 23 September 2020

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	Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? [[User:MOTHRA\|MOTHRA]] ([[User talk:MOTHRA\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? [[User:MOTHRA\|MOTHRA]] ([[User talk:MOTHRA\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

TEVESHSZAT at 18:51, 23 September 2020

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	Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? [[User:MOTHRA\|MOTHRA]] ([[User talk:MOTHRA\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? [[User:MOTHRA\|MOTHRA]] ([[User talk:MOTHRA\|talk]]) 12:32, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

MOTHRA: Created page with "Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? ~~~~"

2020-09-23T17:32:25Z

Created page with "Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? ~~~~"

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Could someone take a look at the ISearch for climbing ropes please and tell why it's populating that list with a dancing rope? [[User:MOTHRA|MOTHRA]] ([[User talk:MOTHRA|talk]]) 12:32, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

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	:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			::: Is it working how you were envisioning now? --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (CDT)

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	:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:If I had to guess it's because the name literally says "climbing rope" in it and the semantic search also touches on nouns. --[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] ([[User talk:TEVESHSZAT\|talk]]) 13:51, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
	:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)		:: It's the [[Climbing rope]] redirect page. I just changed it and no longer get any results for "climbing rope" on '''this''' page. [[:Template:ISearch]] is looking at ''page names'', not properties. Maybe this needs a straight-up ASK query. Weird. --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:01, 23 September 2020 (CDT)
			:: And "dancing rope" and "climbing rope" are different properties, but the results on queries don't distinguish between the two... --[[User:TK-421\|TK-421]] ([[User talk:TK-421\|talk]]) 14:08, 23 September 2020 (CDT)