Talk:Healing herbs - Revision history

LADYSABLE: /* Four new healing herbs */ new section

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	There's nothing in this article or in the Herbs article about that. There is nothing in the game HELP system about herbs, either. RECALLing herbs teaches you where to forage them--but not how to use them. And knowing how to use them does seem rather pertinent. [[User:GEHAYI\|Gehayi]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI\|talk]]) 5:46 p.m., 13 October 2017 (EST)		There's nothing in this article or in the Herbs article about that. There is nothing in the game HELP system about herbs, either. RECALLing herbs teaches you where to forage them--but not how to use them. And knowing how to use them does seem rather pertinent. [[User:GEHAYI\|Gehayi]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI\|talk]]) 5:46 p.m., 13 October 2017 (EST)

			== Four new healing herbs ==

			Shining Clubmoss:
			It can be found in badlands, freshwater wetlands, deciduous forests, and scrub/thorn areas. Of those, wetlands is easiest, then deciduous forests, then badlands, and scrub/thorn areas are the hardest for it.
			It can be found in day or night, but it is much easier at night.
			It can be found in any season, but it's easiest is fall and hardest in winter.
			- Per GM Zadraes on discord, 6/13/2023

			Marram Grass:
			Also known as Beachgrass or Bent Grass. These grasses are found almost exclusively on the first line of coastal sand dunes; their extensive systems of creeping underground stems or rhizomes allow them to thrive under conditions of shifting sands and high winds. Marram is well-suited for arid and harsh environments where most other plants cannot survive. The beachgrass also aids in building dunes and stabilizing sand.
			- Per GM Zadraes on discord, 6/27/2023

			Ashen Flamestalk:
			The flamestalk plant is a common indoor shrub that can be characterized by its stem, which begins dark red at the bottom, transcending into orange and finally yellow near the top. It has very dark, almost black ash-like leaves. When it blooms it has flame-like flowers.
			- Per GM Zadraes on discord, 6/27/2023
			Generally found in photophobic and subterranean areas.

			Marsh Woundwort:
			Generally found in taigas, rainforests, freshwater wetlands and highland mountains.

GEHAYI: New category for discussion

2017-10-13T21:45:07Z

New category for discussion

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	:A lot of the information in the chart is based on {{com\|RECALL}} {{tt\|HERB}}, and the system did go through a pretty major changes between the old system (shop sold herbs) and new crafting system (foraged and now creature-dropped herbs). Dioica sap requires around 500 Outdoorsmanship to collect (less to forage), and is found in the triangle with baby gryphons near Rossman's Landing. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 16:57, 12 May 2017 (CDT)		:A lot of the information in the chart is based on {{com\|RECALL}} {{tt\|HERB}}, and the system did go through a pretty major changes between the old system (shop sold herbs) and new crafting system (foraged and now creature-dropped herbs). Dioica sap requires around 500 Outdoorsmanship to collect (less to forage), and is found in the triangle with baby gryphons near Rossman's Landing. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 16:57, 12 May 2017 (CDT)

			== How Do You Make Herbs Work? ==

			There's nothing in this article or in the Herbs article about that. There is nothing in the game HELP system about herbs, either. RECALLing herbs teaches you where to forage them--but not how to use them. And knowing how to use them does seem rather pertinent. [[User:GEHAYI\|Gehayi]] ([[User talk:GEHAYI\|talk]]) 5:46 p.m., 13 October 2017 (EST)

RY4NPW: /* The Chart Is Now Incorrect? */ clarify system rather than releases since the transition wasn't so binary.

2017-05-12T21:58:37Z

The Chart Is Now Incorrect?: clarify system rather than releases since the transition wasn't so binary.

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	* Both Blocil Berries and Jadice Pollen are listed for external limb scars - I thought blocil berries were something else.. [[User:KASHNA\|KASHNA]] ([[User talk:KASHNA\|talk]]) 20:38, 11 May 2017 (CDT)		* Both Blocil Berries and Jadice Pollen are listed for external limb scars - I thought blocil berries were something else.. [[User:KASHNA\|KASHNA]] ([[User talk:KASHNA\|talk]]) 20:38, 11 May 2017 (CDT)

	:A lot of the information in the chart is based on {{com\|RECALL}} {{tt\|HERB}}, and the system did go through a pretty major changes between ~~2.0~~ (shop sold herbs) and ~~3.0~~ (foraged and now creature-dropped herbs). Dioica sap requires around 500 Outdoorsmanship to collect (less to forage), and is found in the triangle with baby gryphons near Rossman's Landing. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 16:57, 12 May 2017 (CDT)		:A lot of the information in the chart is based on {{com\|RECALL}} {{tt\|HERB}}, and the system did go through a pretty major changes between the old system (shop sold herbs) and new crafting system (foraged and now creature-dropped herbs). Dioica sap requires around 500 Outdoorsmanship to collect (less to forage), and is found in the triangle with baby gryphons near Rossman's Landing. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 16:57, 12 May 2017 (CDT)

RY4NPW: /* The Chart Is Now Incorrect? */

2017-05-12T21:57:42Z

The Chart Is Now Incorrect?

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	* Both Blocil Berries and Jadice Pollen are listed for external limb scars - I thought blocil berries were something else.. [[User:KASHNA\|KASHNA]] ([[User talk:KASHNA\|talk]]) 20:38, 11 May 2017 (CDT)		* Both Blocil Berries and Jadice Pollen are listed for external limb scars - I thought blocil berries were something else.. [[User:KASHNA\|KASHNA]] ([[User talk:KASHNA\|talk]]) 20:38, 11 May 2017 (CDT)

			:A lot of the information in the chart is based on {{com\|RECALL}} {{tt\|HERB}}, and the system did go through a pretty major changes between 2.0 (shop sold herbs) and 3.0 (foraged and now creature-dropped herbs). Dioica sap requires around 500 Outdoorsmanship to collect (less to forage), and is found in the triangle with baby gryphons near Rossman's Landing. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 16:57, 12 May 2017 (CDT)

KASHNA: /* The Chart Is Now Incorrect? */ new section

2017-05-12T01:38:37Z

The Chart Is Now Incorrect?: new section

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	: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)		: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)
	: Then that should really be included, no? --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 07:47, 29 October 2014 (CDT)		: Then that should really be included, no? --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 07:47, 29 October 2014 (CDT)

			== The Chart Is Now Incorrect? ==

			I do not yet have high enough alchemy to create my own stuff, so I rely on the shops near Crossing. I've noticed a lot of errors in the chart on this page and am wondering if that's because of my reliance on the old system and there have been some pretty drastic alterations... or someone made an error somewhere along the way. Here is a list of errors that I see:

			* Hisan Salve heals all internal scars, ''not internal nerve scars''. I've never seen dioica sap.

			* Both Blocil Berries and Jadice Pollen are listed for external limb scars - I thought blocil berries were something else.. [[User:KASHNA\|KASHNA]] ([[User talk:KASHNA\|talk]]) 20:38, 11 May 2017 (CDT)

KAMVENIENCE at 12:47, 29 October 2014

2014-10-29T12:47:29Z

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	I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)		I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)
	: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)		: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)
			: Then that should really be included, no? --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 07:47, 29 October 2014 (CDT)

CARAAMON at 04:06, 29 October 2014

2014-10-29T04:06:46Z

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	I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)		I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)
			: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)

KAMVENIENCE: /* Shopped vs Foraged */ new section

2014-10-29T02:26:48Z

Shopped vs Foraged: new section

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	::You're a wiki-master Absolon, nice! I'll try and poke around a little too, but my wiki-fu is weak...hehe. Thanks for the update though! --[[Kythryn]] 14:55, 21 October 2014 (CDT)		::You're a wiki-master Absolon, nice! I'll try and poke around a little too, but my wiki-fu is weak...hehe. Thanks for the update though! --[[Kythryn]] 14:55, 21 October 2014 (CDT)
	:::All the herb shops should be updated to be compatible with queries for now. They'll need updating again once herbs are converted to proper Item:Herb_name pages, but that will come later once item namespace properties are fixed.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 02:23, 22 October 2014 (CDT)		:::All the herb shops should be updated to be compatible with queries for now. They'll need updating again once herbs are converted to proper Item:Herb_name pages, but that will come later once item namespace properties are fixed.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 02:23, 22 October 2014 (CDT)

			== Shopped vs Foraged ==

			I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)

ABSOLON: /* populating from shop catalogs */

2014-10-22T07:23:08Z

populating from shop catalogs

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	:P.S. it looks like some shops are not showing up in the list. Taking a quick glance at them, it appears the items are set up slightly differently on the missing ones and so the query doesn't catch them. I'll get to it... sometime. Likely in the next couple of days. Feel free to track down the missing ones and adjust the entries yourself if you are able to figure out what each entry needs.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 04:37, 21 October 2014 (CDT)		:P.S. it looks like some shops are not showing up in the list. Taking a quick glance at them, it appears the items are set up slightly differently on the missing ones and so the query doesn't catch them. I'll get to it... sometime. Likely in the next couple of days. Feel free to track down the missing ones and adjust the entries yourself if you are able to figure out what each entry needs.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 04:37, 21 October 2014 (CDT)
	::You're a wiki-master Absolon, nice! I'll try and poke around a little too, but my wiki-fu is weak...hehe. Thanks for the update though! --[[Kythryn]] 14:55, 21 October 2014 (CDT)		::You're a wiki-master Absolon, nice! I'll try and poke around a little too, but my wiki-fu is weak...hehe. Thanks for the update though! --[[Kythryn]] 14:55, 21 October 2014 (CDT)
			:::All the herb shops should be updated to be compatible with queries for now. They'll need updating again once herbs are converted to proper Item:Herb_name pages, but that will come later once item namespace properties are fixed.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 02:23, 22 October 2014 (CDT)

ZUERCAT: /* populating from shop catalogs */

2014-10-21T19:55:31Z

populating from shop catalogs

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	:Yes, this is possible. Yes, it is done. You may want to check to see if there's any missing, since I just converted what was already listed to the query format. Cheers!--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 03:27, 21 October 2014 (CDT)		:Yes, this is possible. Yes, it is done. You may want to check to see if there's any missing, since I just converted what was already listed to the query format. Cheers!--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 03:27, 21 October 2014 (CDT)
	:P.S. it looks like some shops are not showing up in the list. Taking a quick glance at them, it appears the items are set up slightly differently on the missing ones and so the query doesn't catch them. I'll get to it... sometime. Likely in the next couple of days. Feel free to track down the missing ones and adjust the entries yourself if you are able to figure out what each entry needs.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 04:37, 21 October 2014 (CDT)		:P.S. it looks like some shops are not showing up in the list. Taking a quick glance at them, it appears the items are set up slightly differently on the missing ones and so the query doesn't catch them. I'll get to it... sometime. Likely in the next couple of days. Feel free to track down the missing ones and adjust the entries yourself if you are able to figure out what each entry needs.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 04:37, 21 October 2014 (CDT)
			::You're a wiki-master Absolon, nice! I'll try and poke around a little too, but my wiki-fu is weak...hehe. Thanks for the update though! --[[Kythryn]] 14:55, 21 October 2014 (CDT)

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	I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)		I believe only herbs from shops may be consumed as-is for healing effects, whereas foraged herbs must be turned into their respective remedies products. Is this correct? If yes, this information should be added to the wiki. --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 21:26, 28 October 2014 (CDT)
	: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)		: I believe it varies by shop. Some have been updated to use the new mechanics, some haven't. Also, creature dropped herbs are the old kind. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 23:06, 28 October 2014 (CDT)
			: Then that should really be included, no? --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]]) 07:47, 29 October 2014 (CDT)