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RY4NPW: /* Commands for new players */

2016-08-15T20:07:27Z

Commands for new players

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	== Commands for new players ==		== Commands for new players ==

	[[User:ABSOLON]] alluded to new player commands on the [http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Discussions%20with%20DragonRealms%20Staff%20and%20Players/Kudos/thread/1795686 ~~forus~~]. I dug up my notes on when I was new to the game as well as what I try to walk newcomers I find lost along the way.		[[User:ABSOLON]] alluded to new player commands on the [http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Discussions%20with%20DragonRealms%20Staff%20and%20Players/Kudos/thread/1795686 forums]. I dug up my notes on when I was new to the game as well as what I try to walk newcomers I find lost along the way.

	The guide, as written, is not completely intuitive for a new player~~. For example, most people won't learn about spells until after they've done basic combat. When I was learning DR, I created a checklist of things I heard about to research/learn later~~. For someone new I would suggest it would be more helpful to be a "my first day" checklist (here's how to do these things) ~~rather than~~ talk about skills/concepts. The guide goes into a lot of detail where it doesn't need to (e.g. character creation, advancement). When I ~~find~~ someone completely new, I try to make sure they can do the following:		The guide, as written, is not completely intuitive for a new player. For someone new I would suggest it would be more helpful to be a "my first day" checklist (here's how to do these things). The talk about skills/concepts is important, but maybe this is not the right place? The guide goes into a lot of detail where it doesn't need to (e.g. character creation, advancement). When I run across someone completely new, I try to make sure they can do the following:

	*Movement/Navigation: cardinal movement, GO, CLIMB, DIRECTIONS bank/guild/empath, link to Ranik Maps		*Movement/Navigation: cardinal movement, GO, CLIMB, DIRECTIONS bank/guild/empath, link to Ranik Maps
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	*Advice on skills they should train: clerics need to focus on Attunement, Utility, and Athletics for their quests		*Advice on skills they should train: clerics need to focus on Attunement, Utility, and Athletics for their quests

	From there, there's still lots to learn: circle requirements, TDPs, WIELD/SHEATH, tending bleeders, boxes, gems, hunting ladders, gweths, crafting, fluff, festivals		From there, there's still lots to learn: charity chests, circle requirements, TDPs, WIELD/SHEATH, tending bleeders, boxes, gems, hunting ladders, gweths, crafting, fluff, festivals

	- [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 14:56, 15 August 2016 (CDT)		- [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 14:56, 15 August 2016 (CDT)

RY4NPW: /* Commands for new players */ new section

2016-08-15T19:56:37Z

Commands for new players: new section

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	Also, Arcana: I removed all references to runestones. With the release of 1 mana noob cambrinth, there's zero reason to train it via a runestone. They're harder to obtain, more RT to use, and don't train as well. ([[User talk:HOLYELF\|talk]])		Also, Arcana: I removed all references to runestones. With the release of 1 mana noob cambrinth, there's zero reason to train it via a runestone. They're harder to obtain, more RT to use, and don't train as well. ([[User talk:HOLYELF\|talk]])

			== Commands for new players ==

			[[User:ABSOLON]] alluded to new player commands on the [http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Discussions%20with%20DragonRealms%20Staff%20and%20Players/Kudos/thread/1795686 forus]. I dug up my notes on when I was new to the game as well as what I try to walk newcomers I find lost along the way.

			The guide, as written, is not completely intuitive for a new player. For example, most people won't learn about spells until after they've done basic combat. When I was learning DR, I created a checklist of things I heard about to research/learn later. For someone new I would suggest it would be more helpful to be a "my first day" checklist (here's how to do these things) rather than talk about skills/concepts. The guide goes into a lot of detail where it doesn't need to (e.g. character creation, advancement). When I find someone completely new, I try to make sure they can do the following:

			*Movement/Navigation: cardinal movement, GO, CLIMB, DIRECTIONS bank/guild/empath, link to Ranik Maps
			*Character information: INFO, EXPERIENCE
			*Train stamina to 15 (other statistics can follow later): INFO, DIR stat, TRAIN
			*Choosing a guild: DIR guild, STUDY guildleader, JOIN
			*Interacting with your items: LOOK, GET, PUT (always use MY container), WEAR, REMOVE, APPRAISE, STUDY, INVENTORY, GIVE item TO player, ACCEPT, STORE, STOW
			*Interacting with others: SAY, WHISPER, OOC, ASSESS TEACHING and LISTEN TO player
			*Asking for help: using a crystal ring, THINK TO player, mentors, DIR MENTOR, RING BELL, or CHATTER
			*Getting essential gear: full armor coverage with INV ARMOR and APPRAISE, worn shield, weapon(s), skinning knife, bundling rope
			*Interacting with shops and shop owners: SHOP, BUY, READ catalog, ORDER item, OFFER
			*Combat 101: armor coverage, parry stick, shield, DIR SHIPYARD, melee weapons: STANCE SET 60 60 60, ADVANCE, ANALYZE, ranged weapons: STANCE SET 80 0 100, LOAD, AIM, LOB/THROW/FIRE, LOOT/SEARCH, ARRANGE, SKIN, BUNDLE
			*Getting healed: HEALTH, DIR EMPATH, TIP
			*Casting a spell: PREPARE, CAST, TARGET, HARNESS, CHARGE/INVOKE
			*Training magic: ASK leader about magic, CHOOSE SPELL, different types of spells, POWER walking
			*Death and Favors: DEPART, DIR FAVORS, GET orb, COLLECT rock or POWER walk to altar, PUT orb on altar
			*Making your first coins: FORAGE stick, GIVE to Mags, SELL bundle, DEPOSIT, WITHDRAW
			*Training non-combat survivals: COLLECT grass, HUNT in combat, swim the brook out the west gate
			*Training lore: PLAY instrument, ASSESS instrument, WIPE/CLEAN instrument, BRAID grass, APPRAISE item
			*Training your guild-specific skill: Summoning, Scouting, Theurgy, etc
			*Advice on skills they should train: clerics need to focus on Attunement, Utility, and Athletics for their quests

			From there, there's still lots to learn: circle requirements, TDPs, WIELD/SHEATH, tending bleeders, boxes, gems, hunting ladders, gweths, crafting, fluff, festivals

			- [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 14:56, 15 August 2016 (CDT)

CARAAMON: CARAAMON moved page Talk:General new player Guide to Talk:General new player guide

2015-02-02T00:59:21Z

CARAAMON moved page Talk:General new player Guide to Talk:General new player guide

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CARAAMON: CARAAMON moved page Talk:General Newbie Help Guide to Talk:General new player Guide

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HOLYELF at 23:02, 31 October 2014

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	To me, the two ideas are very different, even if they cover the same topic. The fewer words there are, the easier it is to read/parse. This will also affect other systems like combat, creation, etc. and I think if we don't try to keep out the bloat, it may become huuuuge --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]])		To me, the two ideas are very different, even if they cover the same topic. The fewer words there are, the easier it is to read/parse. This will also affect other systems like combat, creation, etc. and I think if we don't try to keep out the bloat, it may become huuuuge --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]])

	I pretty much just removed them all. The purpose of the newbie guide is to tell people HOW to play. I left links to every skill in case they want to know more about it. IMO it's a better layout since the way Barbarians and Clerics use Debilitation are very different.		I pretty much just removed them all. The purpose of the newbie guide is to tell people HOW to play. I left links to every skill in case they want to know more about it. IMO it's a better layout since the way Barbarians and Clerics use Debilitation are very different. ([[User talk:HOLYELF\|talk]])

	Also, Arcana: I removed all references to runestones. With the release of 1 mana noob cambrinth, there's zero reason to train it via a runestone. They're harder to obtain, more RT to use, and don't train as well.		Also, Arcana: I removed all references to runestones. With the release of 1 mana noob cambrinth, there's zero reason to train it via a runestone. They're harder to obtain, more RT to use, and don't train as well. ([[User talk:HOLYELF\|talk]])

HOLYELF at 23:01, 31 October 2014

2014-10-31T23:01:28Z

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	To me, the two ideas are very different, even if they cover the same topic. The fewer words there are, the easier it is to read/parse. This will also affect other systems like combat, creation, etc. and I think if we don't try to keep out the bloat, it may become huuuuge --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]])		To me, the two ideas are very different, even if they cover the same topic. The fewer words there are, the easier it is to read/parse. This will also affect other systems like combat, creation, etc. and I think if we don't try to keep out the bloat, it may become huuuuge --[[User:KAMVENIENCE\|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE\|talk]])

			I pretty much just removed them all. The purpose of the newbie guide is to tell people HOW to play. I left links to every skill in case they want to know more about it. IMO it's a better layout since the way Barbarians and Clerics use Debilitation are very different.

			Also, Arcana: I removed all references to runestones. With the release of 1 mana noob cambrinth, there's zero reason to train it via a runestone. They're harder to obtain, more RT to use, and don't train as well.

KAMVENIENCE: Created page with "Should we separate general information (e.g. target spells vs augment vs utility, etc.) from how-tos (e.g. prep first, wait for full prep, cast)? To me, the two ideas are ver..."

2014-10-29T12:45:33Z

Created page with "Should we separate general information (e.g. target spells vs augment vs utility, etc.) from how-tos (e.g. prep first, wait for full prep, cast)? To me, the two ideas are ver..."

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Should we separate general information (e.g. target spells vs augment vs utility, etc.) from how-tos (e.g. prep first, wait for full prep, cast)?

To me, the two ideas are very different, even if they cover the same topic. The fewer words there are, the easier it is to read/parse. This will also affect other systems like combat, creation, etc. and I think if we don't try to keep out the bloat, it may become huuuuge --[[User:KAMVENIENCE|KAMVENIENCE]] ([[User talk:KAMVENIENCE|talk]])