https://elanthipedia.play.net/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AGemsTalk:Gems - Revision history2026-04-15T05:51:03ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.12https://elanthipedia.play.net/index.php?title=Talk:Gems&diff=107800&oldid=prevMaintenance script: /* on half of a tiny amethyst */ new section2009-02-22T23:17:59Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">on half of a tiny amethyst: </span> new section</span></p>
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