Talk:Gamgweth Grammar (book) - Revision history

DAEMETHEUS: added another short story based on the above grammar considerations for language complexity research

2019-10-18T19:06:40Z

added another short story based on the above grammar considerations for language complexity research

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 Any notes with (construed, weak) means there exists only a single example and is ineffective to provide proper rules, but it was used anyways.
 = Basic Structure =
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 | sca''dor''
 | "prepare"
 |}
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 | "The king has been killing"
 | (has-pres the king be killing)
 |-
 | karfano li denenshon sa a'gwelder.
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 # '''Vocabulary.''' There are a LOT of words that simply don't exist in practical speech. More time is spent trying to find a word, a relative word, or construe a meaning from the joined nouns to accommodate the lack. In some ways, it's an open market in a first-come-first-serve format for creating words to suffice; in other ways, it's dangerous because there's still a lot of grammar/word-rules to be extracted from the language that only comes through this type of analysis.

DAEMETHEUS at 19:43, 19 May 2017

2017-05-19T19:43:38Z

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	! Construed or Used-As Meaning		! Construed or Used-As Meaning
	\|-		\|-
	\| hegessger'~~aldya~~ (knight holy)		\| hegessger'alyda (knight holy)
	\| paladin		\| paladin
	\|-		\|-

DAEMETHEUS: fixed lexical errors

2017-05-19T19:42:46Z

fixed lexical errors

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	\| (Yes, be I also inside empty, said knight-holy)		\| (Yes, be I also inside empty, said knight-holy)
	\|-		\|-
	\| Morlarke hegessger'~~aldya~~, kho tyvarke tyvalger dilu.		\| Morlarke hegessger'alyda, kho tyvarke tyvalger dilu.
	\| The paladin waited, but the thief snuck away.		\| The paladin waited, but the thief snuck away.
	\| (Stood knight-holy, but stole thief out)		\| (Stood knight-holy, but stole thief out)
	\|-		\|-
	\| Rhoarke, deslave olkarke hegessger'~~aldya~~ li tyvalger, ia sake gaena hentoral ri li H'Argir.		\| Rhoarke, deslave olkarke hegessger'alyda li tyvalger, ia sake gaena hentoral ri li H'Argir.
	\| Angered, the paladin again caught the thief, and they were going to travel to the Crossing.		\| Angered, the paladin again caught the thief, and they were going to travel to the Crossing.
	\| (Angered, again held knight-holy the thief, and were they will-travel to the Crossing)		\| (Angered, again held knight-holy the thief, and were they will-travel to the Crossing)
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	\| (Stand! Be my inside empty time-silent (still). Let trade me us food from the shop, said thief)		\| (Stand! Be my inside empty time-silent (still). Let trade me us food from the shop, said thief)
	\|-		\|-
	\| "Din. Sa ama lyo. Pama malto, hevor'al ama vetar, ia morlar'al ama dilutar," gwerke hegessger'~~aldya~~.		\| "Din. Sa ama lyo. Pama malto, hevor'al ama vetar, ia morlar'al ama dilutar," gwerke hegessger'alyda.
	\| "No. I am wise. This time, I will go inside, and you will wait outside," said the paladin.		\| "No. I am wise. This time, I will go inside, and you will wait outside," said the paladin.
	\| (No. Be wise I. This time, will-go I inside, and will-stand you outside, said knight-holy)		\| (No. Be wise I. This time, will-go I inside, and will-stand you outside, said knight-holy)

DAEMETHEUS: swapped gamgweth-common column on accident

2017-05-19T19:39:43Z

swapped gamgweth-common column on accident

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	\| (One day, steal man Kronar-many in Dirge)		\| (One day, steal man Kronar-many in Dirge)
	\|-		\|-
⚫	\| A paladin attacked and caught the thief.
	\| Yanorke hegessger'alyda ia olkarke dena li tyvalger.		\| Yanorke hegessger'alyda ia olkarke dena li tyvalger.
		⚫	\| A paladin attacked and caught the thief.
	\| (attacked knight-holy and held he the thief)		\| (attacked knight-holy and held he the thief)
	\|-		\|-
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	\| (Yes, be I also inside empty, said knight-holy)		\| (Yes, be I also inside empty, said knight-holy)
	\|-		\|-
⚫	\| The paladin waited, but the thief snuck away.
	\| Morlarke hegessger'aldya, kho tyvarke tyvalger dilu.		\| Morlarke hegessger'aldya, kho tyvarke tyvalger dilu.
		⚫	\| The paladin waited, but the thief snuck away.
	\| (Stood knight-holy, but stole thief out)		\| (Stood knight-holy, but stole thief out)
	\|-		\|-

DAEMETHEUS at 19:28, 19 May 2017

2017-05-19T19:28:29Z

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 * ''Note: Cleaned up on 08DEC16 to make it more organized''
 * ''Note: Updated on 10JAN17 to include verb moods (as applicable)''
 = Basic Structure =
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 {| class="wikitable"
 |-
-| Vor aena hevor.
+| Vor hevor aena.
 | "Let us away. (Let's go!)"
-| (Let us go)
+| (Let go us)
 |-
-| Vor aena cuir.
+| Vor cuir aena.
 | "Let's sing."
-| (Let us sing)
+| (Let sing us)
 |-
-| Vordin tema esar pama.
+| Vordin esar tema pama.
 | "You cannot do this. (dissuasive instead of impermissive)"
-"alt: Let not you do this"
+| (Let-not do you this)
 |-
-| Vor Juli gweld.
+| Vor gweld Juli.
 | "Let Juli die"
-| (Let Juli die) ''without a real subject, else read as indicative (You let Juli die.)''
+| (Let die Juli) ''the lack of subject should contextually imply exhortative rather than imperative''
 |-
-| Vor gaena vetar.
+| Vor halmir gaena vetar.
 | "Allow them entry."
-| (Let they inside (construed))
+| (Let come they inside)
 |}
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DAEMETHEUS: quick wiki table fix

2017-01-10T20:15:48Z

quick wiki table fix

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	\| "I suggest Juli be* queen"		\| "I suggest Juli be* queen"
	\| (Give(v) I be-pres-oblig Juli queen)		\| (Give(v) I be-pres-oblig Juli queen)
	\|
	\|-		\|-
	\| Swar'elne tema.		\| Swar'elne tema.

DAEMETHEUS: adding verb moods

2017-01-10T20:10:08Z

adding verb moods

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DAEMETHEUS: reorganized to make it easier to read. Removed certain notes where new examples created better justifications for rules.

2016-12-08T22:11:24Z

reorganized to make it easier to read. Removed certain notes where new examples created better justifications for rules.

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DAEMETHEUS at 23:29, 31 October 2016

2016-10-31T23:29:56Z

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	How does one define "Fire" the noun adjunct differ explicitly from "Fiery" the adjective as it is clearly seen in Common?		How does one define "Fire" the noun adjunct differ explicitly from "Fiery" the adjective as it is clearly seen in Common?
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\| maor aes zaul => "Fiery Devil Cat"?		\| maor aes zaul => "Fiery Devil Cat" or "Devil Fire Cat"?
	\| maor aeszaul => "Fire-Devil Cat"?		\| maor aeszaul => "Fire-Devil Cat" or "Devil-Fire Cat"?
	\| maoraes zaul => "Devil Fire-Cat"?		\| maoraes zaul => "Devil Fire-Cat"?
	\|-		\|-
	\| maor zaul aes => "Fiery Devil Cat" or "~~Devil~~ Fire Cat"?		\| maor zaul aes => "Fiery Devil Cat" or "Fire Devil-Cat"?
	\| maorzaul aes => "Fire Devil-Cat" or "Fiery Devil Cat"?		\| maorzaul aes => "Fire Devil-Cat" or "Fiery Devil-Cat"?
	\| maor zaulaes => "Fire-Devil Cat"?		\| maor zaulaes => "Fire-Devil Cat"?
	\|}		\|}

DAEMETHEUS at 23:27, 31 October 2016

2016-10-31T23:27:13Z

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 {| class="wikitable"
 |+ Complex Sentence With Inflection uf'-
-| Hentorke uf'bolg uf'mor vi Juli bolg uf'more ve li gelvmor'seord uf'mor.
+| Hentorke uf'bolg uf'mor vi Juli bolg uf'mor ve li gelvmor'seord uf'mor.
 | "A very bad Juli very badly traveled in the very dark cave"
 | (travel-past badly greatly [very] a Juli bad very in the cave dark very)
 |}
 = Basic Structure =