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	I am just about finished transitioning all these to the 'new' system. There are a few common leather items that I need to double check the full leather name on, they are still on the "old style" table at the bottom of the sub-section. Obviously, all the statistics are there for each, but before making the pages, need to double check that cougar pelts do turn into cougar-pelt leather, that faenrae stalker pelts turn into stalker-pelt leather, etc. I'll head out to the wilds with my trusty Guardian Spirit over the week, gather and tan stuff...unless someone has that information handy...:)--[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 06:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)		I am just about finished transitioning all these to the 'new' system. There are a few common leather items that I need to double check the full leather name on, they are still on the "old style" table at the bottom of the sub-section. Obviously, all the statistics are there for each, but before making the pages, need to double check that cougar pelts do turn into cougar-pelt leather, that faenrae stalker pelts turn into stalker-pelt leather, etc. I'll head out to the wilds with my trusty Guardian Spirit over the week, gather and tan stuff...unless someone has that information handy...:)--[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 06:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
	:I've got a few confirmations for you: trollkin-hide leather, ghoul-skin leather, cougar-pelt leather, white-pelt leather (snowbeast), la'tami-hide leather, gargoyle-hide leather.--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 21:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)		:I've got a few confirmations for you: trollkin-hide leather, ghoul-skin leather, cougar-pelt leather, white-pelt leather (snowbeast), la'tami-hide leather, gargoyle-hide leather.--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 21:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
			::Thanks so much Antendren, I'll get these done tonight! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 00:33, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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	::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)<br/><br/>		::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)<br/><br/>
	I am just about finished transitioning all these to the 'new' system. There are a few common leather items that I need to double check the full leather name on, they are still on the "old style" table at the bottom of the sub-section. Obviously, all the statistics are there for each, but before making the pages, need to double check that cougar pelts do turn into cougar-pelt leather, that faenrae stalker pelts turn into stalker-pelt leather, etc. I'll head out to the wilds with my trusty Guardian Spirit over the week, gather and tan stuff...unless someone has that information handy...:)--[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 06:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)		I am just about finished transitioning all these to the 'new' system. There are a few common leather items that I need to double check the full leather name on, they are still on the "old style" table at the bottom of the sub-section. Obviously, all the statistics are there for each, but before making the pages, need to double check that cougar pelts do turn into cougar-pelt leather, that faenrae stalker pelts turn into stalker-pelt leather, etc. I'll head out to the wilds with my trusty Guardian Spirit over the week, gather and tan stuff...unless someone has that information handy...:)--[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 06:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
			:I've got a few confirmations for you: trollkin-hide leather, ghoul-skin leather, cougar-pelt leather, white-pelt leather (snowbeast), la'tami-hide leather, gargoyle-hide leather.--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 21:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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	::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)<br/><br/>
			I am just about finished transitioning all these to the 'new' system. There are a few common leather items that I need to double check the full leather name on, they are still on the "old style" table at the bottom of the sub-section. Obviously, all the statistics are there for each, but before making the pages, need to double check that cougar pelts do turn into cougar-pelt leather, that faenrae stalker pelts turn into stalker-pelt leather, etc. I'll head out to the wilds with my trusty Guardian Spirit over the week, gather and tan stuff...unless someone has that information handy...:)--[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 06:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

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	::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
			::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	::Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section?<br/>		::Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section?<br/>
	::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
			:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)		So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
	: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. Or, instead of adding her as a source, maybe there is an ~~Item~~ Search put onto all these materials pages too. That way, we can include the drops out of [[darkbox]], the gem box and any future alternative-source drops too? I can go back and edit the sources if you let me know how you want to handle that.<br/>		::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. Or, instead of adding her as a source, maybe there is an Source Search put onto all these materials pages too, maybe make a special item type or source for each? Not really sure the best way to go about it, but seems like something we should be able to do...:) That way, we can include the drops out of [[darkbox]], the gem box and any future alternative-source drops too? I can go back and edit the sources if you let me know how you want to handle that.<br/>
	::Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section?<br/>		::Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section?<br/>
	::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)		So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
	: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. Or, instead of adding her as a source, maybe there is an Item Search put onto all these materials pages too. That way, we can include the drops out of [[darkbox], the gem box and any future alternative-source drops too? I can go back and edit the sources if you let me know how you want to handle that. ~~Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)~~		::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. Or, instead of adding her as a source, maybe there is an Item Search put onto all these materials pages too. That way, we can include the drops out of [[darkbox]], the gem box and any future alternative-source drops too? I can go back and edit the sources if you let me know how you want to handle that.<br/>
			::Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section?<br/>
			::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)		So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
	: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. I can go back and edit ~~her into~~ sources if you do. Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. Or, instead of adding her as a source, maybe there is an Item Search put onto all these materials pages too. That way, we can include the drops out of [[darkbox], the gem box and any future alternative-source drops too? I can go back and edit the sources if you let me know how you want to handle that. Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)		So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
	: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
			::So got started with the common bone section. I was going to add [[Zasele]] as a source on ones confirmed she gives out (just did it with the [[Bear Bone]] one so far), but of course, that opens up the question on if you want that added to all the other materials she hands out too. I can go back and edit her into sources if you do. Oh, and do you want to add the dyes on the page here too, or maybe have a link to [[Artistry dye]] somewhere in the Outfitting section? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)		So currently (Nov 2013) both the bone and leather materials are set up to sort by the creature name. And, on a converging project, it looks like Caraamon is also setting up individual pages for each material on the entire crafting materials page. I would suggest that we go ahead and change these 2 tables around so that the result is listed (crocodile-bone instead of blue belly crocodile, wolf-pelt leather instead of blood wolf, etc.). This way, we can have an individual material page for some of the rare stuff coming out of the 410 HE festival that doesn't have a creature immediately associated with it (salt-encrusted leather & blackened-bone come to mind). And, I imagine there is a chance that multiple creatures can sometimes produce the same thing. For instance, wolf-bones: right now a link to the [[Bone Wolf]] is on the table, but why not a link to Blood Wolf since neither has the bone information listed yet? And what if there's eventually an invasion creature that has a Massive Bone Wolf (or something) that gives wolf-bones. If we go ahead and change the tables to the end product, on each individual page it will open it up for multiple creatures providing the same items, plus being able to list when they are found from special events, like darkbox, gem box, Zasele, etc. I'll be happy to volunteer to change the tables if we agree to go ahead with it. --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 15:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
			: I definitely agree each bone should have it's own page, especially since we have cases of the same bone coming from more than one animal (e.g. bear bone). If you want to go ahead and set them up, go for it, otherwise I'll get around to it sooner or later. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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	::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::And I did try to roll in the new table code that you've used on the common metals, updated it for bone, but at the bottom was getting the "more results" line and wasn't sure how to make it show everything. So, I left the existing table. Also, you'll notice a 2nd table with just Snow Goblins, the bone stats are different from the other goblins so I didn't combine them, however I don't know what the bone name of those is so didn't make a page (and didn't want it to get lost). Are they snow bones, snow goblin bones? --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 16:33, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		:::Just checked, and it turns out snow goblins produce "pale goblin bones".--[[User:Antendren\|Antendren]] 19:28, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
	::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)		::::Thanks Anterndren! --[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 20:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)<br/><br/>
			I am just about finished transitioning all these to the 'new' system. There are a few common leather items that I need to double check the full leather name on, they are still on the "old style" table at the bottom of the sub-section. Obviously, all the statistics are there for each, but before making the pages, need to double check that cougar pelts do turn into cougar-pelt leather, that faenrae stalker pelts turn into stalker-pelt leather, etc. I'll head out to the wilds with my trusty Guardian Spirit over the week, gather and tan stuff...unless someone has that information handy...:)--[[User:Kythryn\|Kythryn]] 06:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

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