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		<title>DAEMETHEUS at 11:19, 18 August 2017</title>
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		<updated>2017-08-18T11:19:43Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 06:19, 18 August 2017&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At 51 Charisma and 50 Discipline, I am dropping to 0 confidence. Either I need higher charisma, and the base is wrong, or there is some other component in the equation. --[[User:DAEMETHEUS|DAEMETHEUS]] ([[User talk:DAEMETHEUS|talk]]) 21:40, 12 August 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At 51 Charisma and 50 Discipline, I am dropping to 0 confidence. Either I need higher charisma, and the base is wrong, or there is some other component in the equation. --[[User:DAEMETHEUS|DAEMETHEUS]] ([[User talk:DAEMETHEUS|talk]]) 21:40, 12 August 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The page does not say that having more Charisma means you cannot drop below a level. Charisma raises your average/base state that you will drift if you do nothing else to modify confidence. It also says you&#039;ll recover from 0 to your average state quicker. - [[User:RY4NPW|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]]) 21:57, 12 August 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The page does not say that having more Charisma means you cannot drop below a level. Charisma raises your average/base state that you will drift if you do nothing else to modify confidence. It also says you&#039;ll recover from 0 to your average state quicker. - [[User:RY4NPW|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]]) 21:57, 12 August 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>RY4NPW at 02:57, 13 August 2017</title>
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		<updated>2017-08-13T02:57:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At 51 Charisma and 50 Discipline, I am dropping to 0 confidence. Either I need higher charisma, and the base is wrong, or there is some other component in the equation. --[[User:DAEMETHEUS|DAEMETHEUS]] ([[User talk:DAEMETHEUS|talk]]) 21:40, 12 August 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At 51 Charisma and 50 Discipline, I am dropping to 0 confidence. Either I need higher charisma, and the base is wrong, or there is some other component in the equation. --[[User:DAEMETHEUS|DAEMETHEUS]] ([[User talk:DAEMETHEUS|talk]]) 21:40, 12 August 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>DAEMETHEUS: update notes</title>
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		<updated>2017-08-13T02:40:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;update notes&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;51&lt;/ins&gt; Charisma&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; and 50 Discipline&lt;/ins&gt;, I am dropping to 0 confidence&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. Either I need higher charisma, and the base is wrong, or there is some other component in the equation&lt;/ins&gt;. --[[User:DAEMETHEUS|DAEMETHEUS]] ([[User talk:DAEMETHEUS|talk]]) &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;21&lt;/ins&gt;:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;40&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;12&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;August&lt;/ins&gt; 2017 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>DAEMETHEUS at 18:45, 20 July 2017</title>
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		<updated>2017-07-20T18:45:45Z</updated>

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		<title>DAEMETHEUS: Created page with &quot;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At 50 Charisma, I am dropping to 0 confidence.&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2017-07-20T18:45:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;The baseline requirements are either untrue or incomplete. At 50 Charisma, I am dropping to 0 confidence.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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