Talk:Character Manager - Revision history

ISHARON at 00:03, 3 March 2011

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	::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

			===Shift Article===

			I cleaned up the [[Shift]] article. Initially, I was thinking about eliminating all feature lists that are duplicated in the Character Manager article. In the end, I compromised by removing only those lists whose options vary by race (for example, eye shape and skin color). All feature lists still link to the Character Manager article so that readers can quickly see which features are shift-only. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 00:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Matronly==		==Matronly==

	I had it originally saying it was a female-only shift because I 'think' that if someone female with a matronly build is shifted to a male, they keep that build. Any idea if that's right or not? —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		I had it originally saying it was a female-only shift because I 'think' that if someone female with a matronly build is shifted to a male, they keep that build. Any idea if that's right or not? —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			:I'm not sure, but I tested the build options, and it wouldn't let me shift a man's build to matronly. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 00:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

CARAAMON: /* Formatting */

2011-03-02T23:31:11Z

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	::Awesome work cleaning up those tables. They look much better on page horizontally like that, too. —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		::Awesome work cleaning up those tables. They look much better on page horizontally like that, too. —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:::The horizontal layout was [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]'s idea. :-) --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:::The horizontal layout was [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]'s idea. :-) --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			::::I is good. :P -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 23:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

ISHARON: /* Formatting */

2011-03-02T22:46:21Z

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	:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	::Awesome work cleaning up those tables. They look much better on page horizontally like that, too. —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		::Awesome work cleaning up those tables. They look much better on page horizontally like that, too. —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			:::The horizontal layout was [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]'s idea. :-) --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

TEVESHSZAT at 22:42, 2 March 2011

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	@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			::Awesome work cleaning up those tables. They look much better on page horizontally like that, too. —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==
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	::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

			==Matronly==

			I had it originally saying it was a female-only shift because I 'think' that if someone female with a matronly build is shifted to a male, they keep that build. Any idea if that's right or not? —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

ISHARON: /* Formatting */

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	@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

ISHARON: /* Formatting */

2011-03-02T09:37:31Z

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	@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

ISHARON: /* Feature Tables */

2011-03-02T09:37:01Z

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	I changed the tables to sortable tables so that you can sort features alphabetically or in order of which players/systems they're available to.<br>		I changed the tables to sortable tables so that you can sort features alphabetically or in order of which players/systems they're available to.<br>
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	I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that aren't available certain races, such as "tilted almond-shaped" eyes for [[Gor'Togs]], [[S'Kra Mur]], [[Prydaen]], and [[Rakash]].)--[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that aren't available certain races, such as "tilted almond-shaped" eyes for [[Gor'Togs]], [[S'Kra Mur]], [[Prydaen]], and [[Rakash]].) --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	===Formatting===		===Formatting===

	@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

ISHARON: /* Feature Tables */

2011-03-02T09:36:06Z

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	I redid the tables using the [[Shift]] system as a guide. (According to GM [[Turmis]], "the CM pulls from the [[Empath\|empath]] shift system, but leaving a majority of options as shift only.") Accordingly, features are listed in the order in which they appear in the Shift system.<br>		I redid the tables using the [[Shift]] system as a guide. (According to GM [[Turmis]], "the CM pulls from the [[Empath\|empath]] shift system, but leaving a majority of options as shift only.") Accordingly, features are listed in the order in which they appear in the Shift system.<br>
	<br>		<br>
			I changed the tables to sortable tables so that you can sort features alphabetically or in order of which players/systems they're available to.<br>
	I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that aren't available certain races, such as "tilted almond-shaped" eyes for [[Gor'Togs]], [[S'Kra Mur]], [[Prydaen]], and [[Rakash]].)<br>
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	~~@Caraamon:~~ I ~~like~~ ~~your~~ ~~horizontal~~ ~~layouts~~ ~~for~~ ~~eye~~ ~~shapes,~~ ~~nose~~ ~~shapes,~~ ~~etc~~. I'll ~~look~~ ~~into~~ ~~converting~~ my ~~tables~~ to ~~that~~ ~~format~~ ~~tomorrow.~~ ~~Right~~ ~~now~~ I am ~~tired.~~ --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that aren't available certain races, such as "tilted almond-shaped" eyes for [[Gor'Togs]], [[S'Kra Mur]], [[Prydaen]], and [[Rakash]].)--[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

			===Formatting===

			@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

ISHARON: /* Feature Tables */

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	==Feature Tables==		==Feature Tables==

	I redid the tables using the [[Shift]] system as a guide. (According to GM [[Turmis]], "the CM pulls from the empath shift system, but leaving a majority of options as shift only.") Accordingly, features are listed in the order in which they appear in the Shift system.<br>		I redid the tables using the [[Shift]] system as a guide. (According to GM [[Turmis]], "the CM pulls from the [[Empath\|empath]] shift system, but leaving a majority of options as shift only.") Accordingly, features are listed in the order in which they appear in the Shift system.<br>
	<br>		<br>
	I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that ~~weren~~'t available to ~~that race~~, such as tilted almond-shaped eyes for Gor'Togs, S'Kra Mur, Prydaen, and Rakash.)<br>		I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that aren't available certain races, such as "tilted almond-shaped" eyes for [[Gor'Togs]], [[S'Kra Mur]], [[Prydaen]], and [[Rakash]].)<br>
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	@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

ISHARON at 09:28, 2 March 2011

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	I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that weren't available to that race, such as tilted almond-shaped eyes for Gor'Togs, S'Kra Mur, Prydaen, and Rakash.)<br>		I also corrected a few errors that were in the previous tables. (Some features were listed that weren't available to that race, such as tilted almond-shaped eyes for Gor'Togs, S'Kra Mur, Prydaen, and Rakash.)<br>
	<br>		<br>
	@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired.		@Caraamon: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==

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	::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

			===Shift Article===

			I cleaned up the [[Shift]] article. Initially, I was thinking about eliminating all feature lists that are duplicated in the Character Manager article. In the end, I compromised by removing only those lists whose options vary by race (for example, eye shape and skin color). All feature lists still link to the Character Manager article so that readers can quickly see which features are shift-only. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 00:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Matronly==		==Matronly==

	I had it originally saying it was a female-only shift because I 'think' that if someone female with a matronly build is shifted to a male, they keep that build. Any idea if that's right or not? —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		I had it originally saying it was a female-only shift because I 'think' that if someone female with a matronly build is shifted to a male, they keep that build. Any idea if that's right or not? —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			:I'm not sure, but I tested the build options, and it wouldn't let me shift a man's build to matronly. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 00:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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	@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		@[[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon]]: I like your horizontal layouts for eye shapes, nose shapes, etc. I'll look into converting my tables to that format tomorrow. Right now I am tired. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 09:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:Done. I'm going to work on removing duplicative information from the [[Shift]] article. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 22:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
			::Awesome work cleaning up those tables. They look much better on page horizontally like that, too. —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

	==Shift==		==Shift==
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	::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		::I was thinking about what to do with the shift options. The Character Manager article should probably stick to just things that you can do in the character manager. I think that the best option would be either to create a separate page that lists all shift options or edit the shift page. --[[User:Isharon\|Isharon]] 05:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
	:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)		:::For ease of access I would say have the shift stuff with the CM stuff, just so people fully understand what can and can't be gained through the CM and see what value Shift offers. Shift stuff that doesn't relate to CM stuff (beard freezing/age shifting/hair growing) wouldn't be included, though. -[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

			==Matronly==

			I had it originally saying it was a female-only shift because I 'think' that if someone female with a matronly build is shifted to a male, they keep that build. Any idea if that's right or not? —[[User:TEVESHSZAT\|TEVESHSZAT]] 22:42, 2 March 2011 (UTC)