Talk:Bestiary level list - Revision history

GEM6ICE at 23:22, 23 March 2015

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	: The problem is that that criteria varies for people depending on guild, buffs, stats, etc. I don't disagree with you, but I don't necessarily think it's an easy number to come up with.		: The problem is that that criteria varies for people depending on guild, buffs, stats, etc. I don't disagree with you, but I don't necessarily think it's an easy number to come up with.
	: As for the invasion stuff, it's a dynamically generated list, so I can investigate a way to filter out invasion stuff. I've got a bit more things I have to do, but I'll put it on my list of tasks. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 00:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)		: As for the invasion stuff, it's a dynamically generated list, so I can investigate a way to filter out invasion stuff. I've got a bit more things I have to do, but I'll put it on my list of tasks. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 00:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

			== Skill Caps ==
			It seems that creatures stop training offensive skills at a different cap than at which they stop training defensive skills. I'm noticing, for example, that bucca seem to stop training my defensives around 65, but my offensives seem to hit about 90 before not training. Are there two stats on creatures? Or maybe more, if skinning and other skills stop at different caps? [[User:GEM6ICE\|GEM6ICE]] ([[User talk:GEM6ICE\|talk]]) 18:02, 20 March 2015 (CDT)

ABSOLON: ABSOLON moved page Talk:Bestiary Level List to Talk:Bestiary level list

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ABSOLON moved page Talk:Bestiary Level List to Talk:Bestiary level list

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CARAAMON: /* cleaning up the cap ranges */

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cleaning up the cap ranges

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	Thanks--[[User:Luckysevens\|Luckysevens]] 17:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)		Thanks--[[User:Luckysevens\|Luckysevens]] 17:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
			: The problem is that that criteria varies for people depending on guild, buffs, stats, etc. I don't disagree with you, but I don't necessarily think it's an easy number to come up with.
			: As for the invasion stuff, it's a dynamically generated list, so I can investigate a way to filter out invasion stuff. I've got a bit more things I have to do, but I'll put it on my list of tasks. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 00:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

LUCKYSEVENS: /* cleaning up the cap ranges */ new section

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cleaning up the cap ranges: new section

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	Does it use SQL/MySQL? Having worked with those databases, I'd say it would be a relatively easy fix.		Does it use SQL/MySQL? Having worked with those databases, I'd say it would be a relatively easy fix.
	:: Nope. It uses a semantic search function. Short of chopping it up into 10 or 20 shorter searches, I can't think of a way to do it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 03:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)		:: Nope. It uses a semantic search function. Short of chopping it up into 10 or 20 shorter searches, I can't think of a way to do it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 03:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

			== cleaning up the cap ranges ==

			Wondering what others think of this:

			I've always thought of the level list as an approximation of: "What can I safely hunt without getting murdered, while still learning decently?" In that vein, I think that the skill ranges should be rounded up or down, rather than having the exact ranks at which they may cap. That information can be listed under the critter page, rather than here?

			Also, for invasion creatures, I don't find it helpful to have that information listed here, mixed in with all the other critters. (See above criteria. Invasion creatures aren't for hunting). Many of the invasion creatures are likely to never return, and I think it can be confusing to someone who isn't that familiar with the game. Is it possible to sort those out, or maybe have a separate page for them?

			Thanks--[[User:Luckysevens\|Luckysevens]] 17:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

CARAAMON: /* Table Too Big */

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Table Too Big

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	: Actually it is generated via database, which leaves us without a very convenient way to do what you ask. I'll think about it and see what I can come up with. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)		: Actually it is generated via database, which leaves us without a very convenient way to do what you ask. I'll think about it and see what I can come up with. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
	Does it use SQL/MySQL? Having worked with those databases, I'd say it would be a relatively easy fix.		Does it use SQL/MySQL? Having worked with those databases, I'd say it would be a relatively easy fix.
			:: Nope. It uses a semantic search function. Short of chopping it up into 10 or 20 shorter searches, I can't think of a way to do it. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 03:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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	I'm assuming this table isn't generated by using some sort of database, but instead is just edited/added to over time? It's too big, and the data you need to know about critters are only indicated at the top. If you're half way or more up the food chain it's getting to be a pain to scroll ALL the way back to the top to see what the individual boxes of data are, like what carries coin, boxes.. all you see is true or false and after a time without the occasional reminder in the table it's a blur. I don't know if it's an easy fix or not. -[[User:Kaeko\|Kaeko]] 21:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)		I'm assuming this table isn't generated by using some sort of database, but instead is just edited/added to over time? It's too big, and the data you need to know about critters are only indicated at the top. If you're half way or more up the food chain it's getting to be a pain to scroll ALL the way back to the top to see what the individual boxes of data are, like what carries coin, boxes.. all you see is true or false and after a time without the occasional reminder in the table it's a blur. I don't know if it's an easy fix or not. -[[User:Kaeko\|Kaeko]] 21:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
	: Actually it is generated via database, which leaves us without a very convenient way to do what you ask. I'll think about it and see what I can come up with. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)		: Actually it is generated via database, which leaves us without a very convenient way to do what you ask. I'll think about it and see what I can come up with. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
			Does it use SQL/MySQL? Having worked with those databases, I'd say it would be a relatively easy fix.

CARAAMON at 21:38, 13 April 2012

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	== Table Too Big ==		== Table Too Big ==

	I'm assuming this table isn't generated by using some sort of database, but instead is just edited/added to over time? It's too big, and the data you need to know about critters are only indicated at the top. If you're half way or more up the food chain it's getting to be a pain to scroll ALL the way back to the top to see what the individual boxes of data are, like what carries coin, boxes.. all you see is true or false and after a time without the occasional reminder in the table it's a blur. I don't know if it's an easy fix or not.		I'm assuming this table isn't generated by using some sort of database, but instead is just edited/added to over time? It's too big, and the data you need to know about critters are only indicated at the top. If you're half way or more up the food chain it's getting to be a pain to scroll ALL the way back to the top to see what the individual boxes of data are, like what carries coin, boxes.. all you see is true or false and after a time without the occasional reminder in the table it's a blur. I don't know if it's an easy fix or not. -[[User:Kaeko\|Kaeko]] 21:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
			: Actually it is generated via database, which leaves us without a very convenient way to do what you ask. I'll think about it and see what I can come up with. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 21:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

	[[User:Kaeko\|Kaeko]] 21:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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	I wouldn't ever recommend removing these. Just wanted some clarification. Thanks.		I wouldn't ever recommend removing these. Just wanted some clarification. Thanks.
	[[User:Micaiah\|Micaiah]] 20:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)		[[User:Micaiah\|Micaiah]] 20:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

			== Table Too Big ==

			I'm assuming this table isn't generated by using some sort of database, but instead is just edited/added to over time? It's too big, and the data you need to know about critters are only indicated at the top. If you're half way or more up the food chain it's getting to be a pain to scroll ALL the way back to the top to see what the individual boxes of data are, like what carries coin, boxes.. all you see is true or false and after a time without the occasional reminder in the table it's a blur. I don't know if it's an easy fix or not.

			[[User:Kaeko\|Kaeko]] 21:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Maintenance script: /* Seeking Clarification on Min, Max Caps */

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Seeking Clarification on Min, Max Caps

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	# When is it no longer worth the effort to continue hunting them?		# When is it no longer worth the effort to continue hunting them?
	: By it's very nature and the vary boosts and combat capabilies of a given guild at a given skill level, these are opinions and I know of no decent way to make them otherwise without removing their information content completely. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 19:50, 3 January 2012 (UTC)		: By it's very nature and the vary boosts and combat capabilies of a given guild at a given skill level, these are opinions and I know of no decent way to make them otherwise without removing their information content completely. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 19:50, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

			I wouldn't ever recommend removing these. Just wanted some clarification. Thanks.
			[[User:Micaiah\|Micaiah]] 20:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

CARAAMON: /* Seeking Clarification on Min, Max Caps */

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Seeking Clarification on Min, Max Caps

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	[[User:Micaiah\|Micaiah]] 15:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)		[[User:Micaiah\|Micaiah]] 15:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
			: They are approximate numbers of two things:
			# At what sort of ranks, both offensive and defensive can a hunter reasonably begin hunting them?
			# When is it no longer worth the effort to continue hunting them?
			: By it's very nature and the vary boosts and combat capabilies of a given guild at a given skill level, these are opinions and I know of no decent way to make them otherwise without removing their information content completely. -Moderator [[User:Caraamon\|Caraamon Makdasi]]<sup>([[User talk:Caraamon\|talk]])</sup> 19:50, 3 January 2012 (UTC)