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		<title>Maintenance script at 20:57, 21 April 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-04-21T20:57:15Z</updated>

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		<title>Maintenance script: /* Plagiarism Accusation */</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-01T19:47:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Plagiarism Accusation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Without direct knowledge of the game designers&#039; intentions and state of mind, it is unfair (and impossible) to directly accuse them of theft.  A more NPOV way to express this would give them the benefit of that necessary doubt.  There is a difference between plagiarism and homage. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 14:41, 1 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Maintenance script: New page: ==Plagiarism Accusation== Without direct knowledge of the game designers&#039; intentions and state of mind, it is unfair (and impossible) to directly accuse them of theft.  A more NPOV way to ...</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-01T19:41:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: ==Plagiarism Accusation== Without direct knowledge of the game designers&amp;#039; intentions and state of mind, it is unfair (and impossible) to directly accuse them of theft.  A more NPOV way to ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Plagiarism Accusation==&lt;br /&gt;
Without direct knowledge of the game designers&amp;#039; intentions and state of mind, it is unfair (and impossible) to directly accuse them of theft.  A more NPOV way to express this would give them the benefit of that necessary doubt.  There is a difference between plagiarism and homage. --[[User:Farman|Farman]] 14:41, 1 May 2007 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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