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		<title>CARAAMON at 06:14, 9 April 2015</title>
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		<title>CARAAMON at 02:14, 9 April 2015</title>
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		<title>ISHARON: Created page with &quot;{{Post |a=DR-RAESH |t=RE: Teaching Updates |d=04/08/2015 07:44 PM CDT |n=1026 |f=Lore \ Teaching Skill |c=m |p=&#039;&#039;&gt;&gt;Maybe I&#039;m just misunderstanding, but that doesn&#039;t entirely m...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{Post |a=DR-RAESH |t=RE: Teaching Updates |d=04/08/2015 07:44 PM CDT |n=1026 |f=Lore \ Teaching Skill |c=m |p=&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Maybe I&amp;#039;m just misunderstanding, but that doesn&amp;#039;t entirely m...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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|p=&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;Maybe I&amp;#039;m just misunderstanding, but that doesn&amp;#039;t entirely make sense to me. You say that this is the primary way the student&amp;#039;s scholarship comes into play, but is it also the primary way the teacher&amp;#039;s teaching is used? Because I wasn&amp;#039;t just giving my student a scholarship boost; I was also giving myself one. What you&amp;#039;re describing means that the boost to my student&amp;#039;s scholarship was irrelevant, but unless that&amp;#039;s the only place the teacher&amp;#039;s teaching is used, shouldn&amp;#039;t the boost to my own still have made a difference? And if that is the only place the teacher&amp;#039;s teaching is used, that means that teaching effectiveness decreases with skill, which seems like particularly perverse design.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I over simplified a bit, and also had an slight error in my explanation.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Essentially it&amp;#039;s like this&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Your skill as a teacher (inclusive of stat bonuses) lets you get teach X bits.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(This is where {{PRel|Scholarship skill|scholarship}}/stat bonuses to the teacher increase pulse size)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is increased by some multipliers Y (same guild/race/etc) so we have X &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; 1.Y.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is then adjusted up or down based on the ratio of teacher scholarship / student scholarship (again, inclusive of stat bonuses).  This is where the cap is coming in that I described above.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(This is where scholarship/stats bonuses to the student could increase pulse size.  In this case they aren&amp;#039;t because the ratio is still below the minimum cap.)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, this whole mess is capped based on how much the student knows of the skill being taught. This is what I missed in my earlier explanation.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(Ultimately, this is what&amp;#039;s reducing the pulse sizes to the same in your example.  I missed it because no one ever added debug messaging to that particular step...)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Again - I don&amp;#039;t think this is a particularly &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;good&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; formula or way to go about doing things, but it has the non-trivia perk of having not horribly &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;broken&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; in years and years of use.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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-Raesh&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*I think.  I&amp;#039;m digging through several hundred lines of complex math I didn&amp;#039;t write and no one cared to document when they were written 10-20 years ago, depending on which update the code is from)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ever notice that B.A.&amp;#039;s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?&amp;quot; - Brian Van Hoose&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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