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|a=DR-ARMIFER&lt;br /&gt;
|t=Re: RF&lt;br /&gt;
|d=9/24/2009 10:05:40 PM&lt;br /&gt;
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|f=The Moon Mages (24) \ The Lunar Magic Spell Books (10)&lt;br /&gt;
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|p=&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;My question is: Do {{PRel|Astoshe&amp;#039;s Eclipse|inviso rings}} give a boost [to {{PRel|Hiding skill|hiding}}]?&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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No. Generic {{PRel|invisibility}} (what you&amp;#039;d get from items) does not provide a boost, that is the providence of guild-based invisibility (spells and {{PRel|Khri Vanish|khri}}).&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;If only using [[shadows]] for hiding and {{PRel|Stalking skill|sneaking}} doesn&amp;#039;t get you detected... then why does being invisible make it easier to be detected?&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no intended difference in the detection contests between Hidden and Invisible except for the invisibility bonus (or, in simple terms, Invisible &amp;gt; Hidden). This may not be working correctly, or player tests may be hampered by the usual problems of incredibly low sample sizes. I do not know off hand, which is why I explicitly said that was not part of the argument I had any issues with.&lt;br /&gt;
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-[[Armifer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|sub=Item:Azure-scaled poloh&amp;#039;izh hide cloak&lt;br /&gt;
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