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		<title>ISHARON: Created page with &quot;{{Post |a=DR-ARMIFER |t=Re: Defense Proficiency |d=05/19/2014 11:27 AM CDT |n=2660 |f=The Paladins \ General Discussions |c=d |p=&#039;&#039;&gt;&gt;RP should inform development direction, wh...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{Post |a=DR-ARMIFER |t=Re: Defense Proficiency |d=05/19/2014 11:27 AM CDT |n=2660 |f=The Paladins \ General Discussions |c=d |p=&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;RP should inform development direction, wh...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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|p=&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;RP should inform development direction, which seems to have been the case here according to [[Armifer]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;d say more broadly that there needs to be a development vision that encompasses both RP and mechanical considerations. This affects both considerations of what we give a guild (&amp;quot;Why should Moon Mages get this ability?&amp;quot;) and the &amp;#039;lore wrapper&amp;#039; behind it (&amp;quot;How should this ability, now that we&amp;#039;ve decided Moon Mages should get it, be described and interpreted in the lore of the game?&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Without doing this work, you get abilities being slapped onto a guild without any coherent design. Take Bards pre-Raesh. Bards had the ability to read any scroll... for no real reason except they could do it in D&amp;amp;D. There was a proposal years ago to give them songbird pets. Because songs. It was complete conceptual chaos.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{PRel|Paladin|Paladins}} are difficult because {{PRel|Cleric|Clerics}} exist and are far more expansive than a typical game. There&amp;#039;s no room for Palaidins to be the holy smiters of demons and undead, as a primary identity, because there&amp;#039;s already a guild that does that as efficiently as we care to let any PC do it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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So where does that leave a vision for Paladins? I donno. I&amp;#039;ve been quoted as saying that the Paladin Guild shouldn&amp;#039;t exist, and this is the problematic I refer to in that quote.&lt;br /&gt;
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