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TRAIGA: /* Item Compatibility Rules */

2021-01-28T17:39:45Z

Item Compatibility Rules

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	:* The canopic jar cannot accept items with different scripts.		:* The canopic jar cannot accept items with different scripts.
	::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two longbows, {{ilink\|w\|twisted black bone longbow wrapped in a torn acidic-green leather\|black bone longbow}} and a crafted {{ilink\|w\|Battle_longbow_(crafted)\|battle longbow}}. Per GM [[Winna]], the black bone longbow is scripted due to how it generates [[social outrage]] when you hold it.		::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two longbows, {{ilink\|w\|twisted black bone longbow wrapped in a torn acidic-green leather\|black bone longbow}} and a crafted {{ilink\|w\|Battle_longbow_(crafted)\|battle longbow}}. Per GM [[Winna]], the black bone longbow is scripted due to how it generates [[social outrage]] when you hold it.
			::* ''Note: Per [[Javac]], scripted items include Mirror Weapons, Elemental Weapons, Shield of Light, Repeating Crossbows, Chipper Weapons, Arhat's Sword, Exoskeletal Weapons, Gore Weapons, Energy Bows, Void Weapons, Moonblade, Thryntyrlz Bags, Instruments, Siegery Items, Inkpots, Gwethdesuan, Damage indicating weapons/armor/shields, Beastly Gauntlets, Shimmer weapons, and Gem pouches.''
	::* ''Note: items with custom verbs or old atmo effects, like snake charms, may be considered scripted.''
	:* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are EZScripted.		:* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are EZScripted.
			::* ''For example, most items with newer atmo effects such as a {{ilink\|i\|trio of multihued moons}}.''
	:* The canopic jar cannot accept items when one is wearable, and the other is not.		:* The canopic jar cannot accept items when one is wearable, and the other is not.
	::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two spears, one bonded and the other not, however neither was a worn item or had a weapon strap.''		::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two spears, one bonded and the other not, however neither was a worn item or had a weapon strap.''

TRAIGA: /* Item Compatibility Rules */

2021-01-28T17:36:51Z

Item Compatibility Rules

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	:* The canopic jar cannot accept items with different scripts.		:* The canopic jar cannot accept items with different scripts.
	::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two longbows, {{ilink\|w\|twisted black bone longbow wrapped in a torn acidic-green leather\|black bone longbow}} and a crafted {{ilink\|w\|Battle_longbow_(crafted)\|battle longbow}}. Per GM [[Winna]], the black bone longbow is scripted due to how it generates [[social outrage]] when you hold it.		::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two longbows, {{ilink\|w\|twisted black bone longbow wrapped in a torn acidic-green leather\|black bone longbow}} and a crafted {{ilink\|w\|Battle_longbow_(crafted)\|battle longbow}}. Per GM [[Winna]], the black bone longbow is scripted due to how it generates [[social outrage]] when you hold it.
			::* ''Note: items with custom verbs or old atmo effects, like snake charms, may be considered scripted.''
	:* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are EZScripted.		:* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are EZScripted.
	:* The canopic jar cannot accept items when one is wearable, and the other is not.		:* The canopic jar cannot accept items when one is wearable, and the other is not.

TRAIGA: /* Usage */

2021-01-28T17:35:46Z

Usage

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	:* {{com\|shake}} the jar if you are sure you want to forgebind the items. This cannot be undone!		:* {{com\|shake}} the jar if you are sure you want to forgebind the items. This cannot be undone!
	::* ''Note: once you shake the jar, it will destroy both the original items and leave you with the new, merged item.''		::* ''Note: once you shake the jar, it will destroy both the original items and leave you with the new, merged item.''
	:* {{com\|dump}} the jar to empty the contents at your feet.		:* {{com\|dump}} the jar to empty the contents at your feet if you don't want to forgebind them.

	===Item Compatibility Rules===		===Item Compatibility Rules===

TRAIGA at 05:59, 28 January 2021

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 In January 2019 (429), an automatic forgebinding system was released into the test instance.  The release post for that can be found here:
 *: [[Post:Automatic Forgebinding Item in Test - 01/19/2019 - 11:45]]
-Items not available for use with the system:
+'''Items not available for use with the system:'''
 :* The canopic jar cannot accept items with different scripts.
 :* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are EZScripted.
 :* The canopic jar cannot accept items when one is wearable, and the other is not.
-::* ''note: the above message was given between 2 spears, one bonded and the other not, however neither was a worn item or had a weapon strap''
+::* ''Note: this message was given when trying two spears, one bonded and the other not, however neither was a worn item or had a weapon strap.''
 :* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are different nouns.
 :* The canopic jar cannot accept items that are different types of item.
-::* ''note: the above was also received from trying a "target shield" and a "grey shield" (dyed, tanned), both were small size''
+::* ''Note: this message was given when trying a "target shield" and a "grey shield" (dyed, tanned), both were small size.''
-:* The canopic jar does not accept Thryntyrlz Bags.
+:* The canopic jar does not accept [[:Category:Thryntyrlz_bags|Thryntyrlz Bags]].
-:* The canopic jar does not accept items registered to someone else.
+:* The canopic jar does not accept items [[Item_registration|registered]] to someone else.
 :* The canopic jar cannot cannot determine which item to repaint. The cosmetically superior item is also higher tier.
 '''Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:'''

MOTHRA: /* Automatic Forgebinding */

2020-01-19T21:41:55Z

Automatic Forgebinding

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	When you {{com\|show}} the items to the jar for comparison, the success message will be:		When you {{com\|show}} the items to the jar for comparison, the success message will be:
	:* The <item 1> and the <item 2> are compatible with the canopic jar's magic.		:* The <item 1> and the <item 2> are compatible with the {{ilink\|i\|Canopic_jar_with_a_jackal_head\|canopic jar's}} magic.

	Once you have acquired a jar, you can {{com\|study}} it for information on use:		Once you have acquired a jar, you can {{com\|study}} it for information on use:

MOTHRA: Item:Canopic jar

2020-01-19T20:34:49Z

Item:Canopic jar

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	* In response to an old-forging system sabre not correctly taking a TAP from a new(er) festival sabre:		* In response to an old-forging system sabre not correctly taking a TAP from a new(er) festival sabre:
	:* Javac: The issue is the old forged sabre has a LOOK, and the fest sabre does not. LOOK is considered the cosmetically best thing, and since the fest sabre only has a TAP the forged sabre is considered better cosmetically.		:* Javac: The issue is the old forged sabre has a LOOK, and the fest sabre does not. LOOK is considered the cosmetically best thing, and since the fest sabre only has a TAP the forged sabre is considered better cosmetically.
			{{RefAl}}

ZUERCAT: /* Automatic Forgebinding */

2019-01-21T00:51:02Z

Automatic Forgebinding

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	:* The canopic jar does not accept Thryntyrlz Bags.		:* The canopic jar does not accept Thryntyrlz Bags.
	:* The canopic jar does not accept items registered to someone else.		:* The canopic jar does not accept items registered to someone else.
			:* The canopic jar cannot cannot determine which item to repaint. The cosmetically superior item is also higher tier.

	'''Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:'''		'''Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:'''
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	:* ''<Player says>, "Works on pilgrim's badges, but wipes away all your visited shrines."		:* ''<Player says>, "Works on pilgrim's badges, but wipes away all your visited shrines."
	:* Javac says to <player>, "Let me look into that."		:* Javac says to <player>, "Let me look into that."
			::* '''note: To transfer visited shrines from one badge to another, PUSH BADGE WITH OTHER BADGE.'''
			* In response to an old-forging system sabre not correctly taking a TAP from a new(er) festival sabre:
			:* Javac: The issue is the old forged sabre has a LOOK, and the fest sabre does not. LOOK is considered the cosmetically best thing, and since the fest sabre only has a TAP the forged sabre is considered better cosmetically.

ZUERCAT: /* Automatic Forgebinding */

2019-01-20T10:11:00Z

Automatic Forgebinding

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	:* The canopic jar does not accept items registered to someone else.		:* The canopic jar does not accept items registered to someone else.

	Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:		'''Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:'''
	* In response to 2 small shields that were not accepted, 1 store bought and 1 old-system tanned:		* In response to 2 small shields that were not accepted, 1 store bought and 1 old-system tanned:
	:* Javac says, "It's because of an internal type on the shields."		:* Javac says, "It's because of an internal type on the shields."
	:* Javac says, "Some of the old stuff should work."		:* Javac says, "Some of the old stuff should work."
	:* Javac says, "But, there are just some weird old things."		:* Javac says, "But, there are just some weird old things."
	:* ''~~You~~ ~~say~~, "I have an altered old forged haubrek somewhere I'll have to dig out, that didn't have anything weird about it other than the alteration."''		:* ''<Player says>, "I have an altered old forged haubrek somewhere I'll have to dig out, that didn't have anything weird about it other than the alteration."''
	:* Javac says, "And being an old forged item."		:* Javac says, "And being an old forged item."
	:* Javac says, "Old forging is... sort of broken."		:* Javac says, "Old forging is... sort of broken."
	:* Javac says, "It used a stupid way of tracking data, then unfortunately causes it to fail."		:* Javac says, "It used a stupid way of tracking data, then unfortunately causes it to fail."
	:* Javac says, "It just hid an item inside the forged thing."		:* Javac says, "It just hid an item inside the forged thing."
			:* Javac says, "Really old forged items are weird."
	* In response to a question about if cambrinth is accepted:		* In response to a question about if cambrinth is accepted:
	:* ''~~You~~ ~~ask~~, "Since you're here instead of me trying to track a blank item down...will the jars work on cambrinth too? Like if you had a 32 mana armband and wanted the alteration onto a 50?"''		:* ''<Player says>, "Since you're here instead of me trying to track a blank item down...will the jars work on cambrinth too? Like if you had a 32 mana armband and wanted the alteration onto a 50?"''
	:* Javac says, "Yep, it should."		:* Javac says, "Yep, it should."
	:* ''~~You~~ ~~ask~~, "And, will the jars reject if you try to "downgrade" something? Like if you're an idoit and have an altered 50 mana and a store bought 32?"''		:* ''<Player says>, "And, will the jars reject if you try to "downgrade" something? Like if you're an idoit and have an altered 50 mana and a store bought 32?"''
	:* Javac says, "Yeah, it should fail."		:* Javac says, "Yeah, it should fail."
	:* Javac says, "It shouldn't let you put them both in the jar."		:* Javac says, "It shouldn't let you put them both in the jar."
	:* Javac says, "If they both have a look, it'll keep the 50 mana and overright the appearance, though."		:* Javac says, "If they both have a look, it'll keep the 50 mana and overright the appearance, though."
	:* ''~~You~~ ~~say~~, "Hmm, so in theory, you could overwrite an altered 50 mana armband with the LOOK and TAP of a store bought 32 then."''		:* ''<Player says>, "Hmm, so in theory, you could overwrite an altered 50 mana armband with the LOOK and TAP of a store bought 32 then."''
	:* Javac says, "Potentially."		:* Javac says, "Potentially."
			* In response to a question about scripted items:
			:* ''<Player says>, which scripts would be restricted on the forgebinding
			:* Javac says, "Mirror Weapons, Elemental Weapons, Shield of Light, Repeating Crossbows, Chipper Weapons, Arhat's Sword, Exoskeletal Weapons, Gore Weapons, Energy Bows, Void Weapons, Moonblade, Thryntyrlz Bags, Instruments, Siegery Items, Inkpots, Gwethdesuan, Damage indicating weapons/armor/shields, Beastly Gauntlets, Shimmer weapons, Gem pouches."
			:* Javac says, "Brawling weapons and slings as well."
			:* Javac says, "Because they're weird."
			:* Javac says, "Oh, EZScripted items don't work either."
			:* Javac says, "But scripts that just add verbs should work."
			:* Javac says, "The food weapon script should work."
			:* Javac says, "Cambrinth should work."
			:* Javac says, "The goal was mostly to allow old merchant things, or altered things, to have their appearance moved to a mechanically better thing."
			:* Javac says, "Like in six years we release tier 12 weapons or whatever."
			:* ''<Player2 says>, "Oh interesting, the Reso cast persisted."
			:* ''<Player1 says>, "Maybe it's an allowed script."
			:* Javac says, "Depends on which one it's on. The mechanically better item just gets repainted."
			:: ''of note here, a <player> combined a stat-boosting ring with a regular one to get its look.''
			* In response to a question about pilgrim badges:
			:* ''<Player says>, "Works on pilgrim's badges, but wipes away all your visited shrines."
			:* Javac says to <player>, "Let me look into that."

ILLIENA: /* Automatic Forgebinding */

2019-01-20T01:42:06Z

Automatic Forgebinding

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	::* ''note: the above was also received from trying a "target shield" and a "grey shield" (dyed, tanned), both were small size''		::* ''note: the above was also received from trying a "target shield" and a "grey shield" (dyed, tanned), both were small size''
	:* The canopic jar does not accept Thryntyrlz Bags.		:* The canopic jar does not accept Thryntyrlz Bags.
			:* The canopic jar does not accept items registered to someone else.

	Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:		Comments from GM [[Javac]] during testing:

ZUERCAT: /* Automatic Forgebinding */

2019-01-20T01:13:57Z

Automatic Forgebinding

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	:* Javac says, "It used a stupid way of tracking data, then unfortunately causes it to fail."		:* Javac says, "It used a stupid way of tracking data, then unfortunately causes it to fail."
	:* Javac says, "It just hid an item inside the forged thing."		:* Javac says, "It just hid an item inside the forged thing."
			* In response to a question about if cambrinth is accepted:
	:* ''You ask, "Since you're here instead of me trying to track a blank item down...will the jars work on cambrinth too? Like if you had a 32 mana armband and wanted the alteration onto a 50?"''		:* ''You ask, "Since you're here instead of me trying to track a blank item down...will the jars work on cambrinth too? Like if you had a 32 mana armband and wanted the alteration onto a 50?"''
	:* Javac says, "Yep, it should."		:* Javac says, "Yep, it should."