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	The first time we see the soldiers ("Spears" vision), they number about half a dozen, are "brandishing long spears", and are standing in a semi-circle before the Empath. In a blur of motion, the Empath snaps a spear in two and sends one of the soldiers sprawling to the ground. The next vision ("Guard These Mountains") may be a continuation of the first vision, as it again calls out half a dozen soldiers, all of who are now lying on the ground, "groaning as they rub bruised ribs or cradle dislocated soldiers, their weapons shattered round them and their armor torn from their bodies." In the third vision featuring the soldiers ("Battle is Lost") we now have a "double ring of soldiers -- shield wardens in the middle, crossbowmen on the outside." The Empath is surrounded by "over a dozen unconscious soldiers", which implies that this is a much larger party of soldiers, by at least three times, than the first two visions.		The first time we see the soldiers ("Spears" vision), they number about half a dozen, are "brandishing long spears", and are standing in a semi-circle before the Empath. In a blur of motion, the Empath snaps a spear in two and sends one of the soldiers sprawling to the ground. The next vision ("Guard These Mountains") may be a continuation of the first vision, as it again calls out half a dozen soldiers, all of who are now lying on the ground, "groaning as they rub bruised ribs or cradle dislocated soldiers, their weapons shattered round them and their armor torn from their bodies." In the third vision featuring the soldiers ("Battle is Lost") we now have a "double ring of soldiers -- shield wardens in the middle, crossbowmen on the outside." The Empath is surrounded by "over a dozen unconscious soldiers", which implies that this is a much larger party of soldiers, by at least three times, than the first two visions.

	It is well known that to kill a trained battle Empath is no easy feat. For her to ~~ultimate~~ face her death, she must have been overwhelmed by a company of impressive size, especially given the forces that she and the Alfar had already repulsed. The progression of these visions leads me to believe that the first band of soldiers vastly underestimated her capabilities, retreated to their larger regiment or home land, and later returned with a larger force that overwhelmed her.		It is well known that to kill a trained battle Empath is no easy feat. For her to ultimately face her death, she must have been overwhelmed by a company of impressive size, especially given the forces that she and the Alfar had already repulsed. The progression of these visions leads me to believe that the first band of soldiers vastly underestimated her capabilities, retreated to their larger regiment or home land, and later returned with a larger force that overwhelmed her.

	The closest we get to a description of the soldiers themselves is from the "Guard These Mountains" vision, where we are told that one soldier is tall with a broad frame and wears a pauldron bearing the emblem of a captain. Elotheans average 5.25' to 6' in height for a female, so a "tall" soldier would most likely be in the 6'+ height range, limiting the soldiers' race (potentially) down to Elf, Kaldar, Gor'Tog, Elothean or S'kra Mur. The mention of "broad frame" would most likely rule out Elves and Elotheans, leaving us with Kaldar, Gor'Tog or S'kra Mur. If we can assume that by not mentioning any defining racial features, the viewer meant there were none, then it is most likely that the soldiers are Kaldar. However, this is wild conjecture for the sake of discussion, and should not be taken as firm fact.		The closest we get to a description of the soldiers themselves is from the "Guard These Mountains" vision, where we are told that one soldier is tall with a broad frame and wears a pauldron bearing the emblem of a captain. Elotheans average 5.25' to 6' in height for a female, so a "tall" soldier would most likely be in the 6'+ height range, limiting the soldiers' race (potentially) down to Elf, Kaldar, Gor'Tog, Elothean or S'kra Mur. The mention of "broad frame" would most likely rule out Elves and Elotheans, leaving us with Kaldar, Gor'Tog or S'kra Mur. If we can assume that by not mentioning any defining racial features, the viewer meant there were none, then it is most likely that the soldiers are Kaldar. However, this is wild conjecture for the sake of discussion, and should not be taken as firm fact.

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	What I find of particular note is the Alfar's continued presence and strength, even after the Empath's death. The Alfar are a type of fae that most likely come from another plane<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. Although most fae we know serve one Immortal or another, the Alfar are not known for serving a particular Immortal<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>, but instead are honoring some debt they feel they owe to Empaths for an event that has been lost to the passage of time<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. Seeing an Alfar without an Empath is a fairly rare occurrence<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>, and we do not know under what circumstances this summoning can be maintained even after the death of the summoning Empath. When an Empath summons a warrior to defend them, the strength of the warrior is proportional to the Empath's skill with targeted magic - but the Empath's summoning ability may not determine the Alfar's strength in so much as how much of that strength is manifested upon summoning<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. It is also quite likely that the strength of the warrior, when separated from the Empath, would be "something else entirely"<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. Lastly, an Alfar speaking is not a common occurrence<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>, so what we we may be able to take from these visions is that this Empath and her Alfar have a very unique or deep-seeded bond with one another. Or, these visions may be from a time long past when the bond between Empaths and Alfars was stronger or more unique, perhaps because the debt between the two was a more recent occurrence.		What I find of particular note is the Alfar's continued presence and strength, even after the Empath's death. The Alfar are a type of fae that most likely come from another plane<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. Although most fae we know serve one Immortal or another, the Alfar are not known for serving a particular Immortal<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>, but instead are honoring some debt they feel they owe to Empaths for an event that has been lost to the passage of time<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. Seeing an Alfar without an Empath is a fairly rare occurrence<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>, and we do not know under what circumstances this summoning can be maintained even after the death of the summoning Empath. When an Empath summons a warrior to defend them, the strength of the warrior is proportional to the Empath's skill with targeted magic - but the Empath's summoning ability may not determine the Alfar's strength in so much as how much of that strength is manifested upon summoning<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. It is also quite likely that the strength of the warrior, when separated from the Empath, would be "something else entirely"<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>. Lastly, an Alfar speaking is not a common occurrence<ref>[[Post:Your_Guardian_Spirit_and_you!_-_05/11/2016_-_02:22]]</ref>, so what we we may be able to take from these visions is that this Empath and her Alfar have a very unique or deep-seeded bond with one another. Or, these visions may be from a time long past when the bond between Empaths and Alfars was stronger or more unique, perhaps because the debt between the two was a more recent occurrence.

	In one of the most recent visions, another Empath says of this one, "You can't stop your best -- they find their own trouble." This implies that this Empath is of strong talent, or is in someway superior to the others of this group. There have been many noteworthy Empath's over the years		In one of the most recent visions, another Empath says of this one, "You can't stop your best -- they find their own trouble." This implies that this Empath is of strong talent, or is in someway superior to the others of this group. There have been many noteworthy Empath's over the years, but there is not enough defining information in these visions to pin down one specifically.

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	Alternatively, the mountains referenced could be the [[Himineldar Shel]] (Mountains) that lay to the northeast of the Tivshowldh Mountains, upon which [[Hibarnhvidar]] was built. These mountains are known to "yield some of the most expansive mines of gems and ores"<ref>[[Himineldar Shel]]</ref>. Further discussion on this location can be found under the [[#What is Being Guarded\|What is Being Guarded]] section.		Alternatively, the mountains referenced could be the [[Himineldar Shel]] (Mountains) that lay to the northeast of the Tivshowldh Mountains, upon which [[Hibarnhvidar]] was built. These mountains are known to "yield some of the most expansive mines of gems and ores"<ref>[[Himineldar Shel]]</ref>. Further discussion on this location can be found under the [[#What is Being Guarded\|What is Being Guarded]] section.

	~~Future~~ visions feature ~~changing~~ locations that range from a desert to a swamp, but it is my belief that these locations are just used to signify that the Alfar is traveling far and wide to in an effort to track the soldiers down.		Later visions feature various locations that range from a desert to a swamp, but it is my belief that these locations are just used to signify that the Alfar is traveling far and wide to in an effort to track the soldiers down.

	In "Weeping", the Alfar is on a "mountain cliff" with "the wind howling" that "[overlooks] a distant city twinkling in the sunset." The story arc of these visions coupled with the similarity of the Alfar sharpening its blade with a whetstone in "An Hour or Less" (the first vision) strongly implies that this is a return to the original mountain range. This would make it more likely that the mountain range is the Himineldar Shel, as there are several cities that could be seen from a distance: Raven's Point, Hibarnhvidar, Ain Ghazal and Boar Clan. Given the proximity and arrangement of these cities, the first city that would be visible on the horizon (when looking north / northwest) would be Raven's Point.		In "Weeping", the Alfar is on a "mountain cliff" with "the wind howling" that "[overlooks] a distant city twinkling in the sunset." The story arc of these visions coupled with the similarity of the Alfar sharpening its blade with a whetstone in "An Hour or Less" (the first vision) strongly implies that this is a return to the original mountain range. This would make it more likely that the mountain range is the Himineldar Shel, as there are several cities that could be seen from a distance: Raven's Point, Hibarnhvidar, Ain Ghazal and Boar Clan. Given the proximity and arrangement of these cities, the first city that would be visible on the horizon (when looking north / northwest) would be Raven's Point.

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	Since the soldiers do not appear to be able to go around the Empath, and are requesting "passage", it sounds like whatever is being guarded has a singular point of access - a door, a cave opening, an otherwise inaccessible trail, etc. This leads me to believe the Empath is not providing border protection or guarding something transitory like a camp of adventurers. Since the soldiers are shown in a variety of other locations as the visions have progressed (a thick jungle followed by a desert), the soldiers may be traveling across the lands in search of something, and not after something specific at this exact location.		Since the soldiers do not appear to be able to go around the Empath, and are requesting "passage", it sounds like whatever is being guarded has a singular point of access - a door, a cave opening, an otherwise inaccessible trail, etc. This leads me to believe the Empath is not providing border protection or guarding something transitory like a camp of adventurers. Since the soldiers are shown in a variety of other locations as the visions have progressed (a thick jungle followed by a desert), the soldiers may be traveling across the lands in search of something, and not after something specific at this exact location.

			The below information is outdated as of 12/20/2020, but is retained for posterity.

	<del>If the Empath has an affiliation with the Sisterhood of the Rose, she may be guarding access to the [[Rose Maiden]]'s Caverns, which is where the [[Kwarlog]] Dwarves discovered the body of a dead maiden holding a perfectly carved white stone rose. Although these tunnels collapsed and buried the maiden, her legacy lived on as the basis for the [[Rose Clan]], which eventually became known as the Sisterhood of the Rose <ref>[[Dwarven Timeline]]</ref>. In my research, I was unable to determine specifically which mountain or mountain range contained the Rose Maiden's Caverns. However, since we know it was located by the Kwarlog Dwarves (who's nation spanned the [[Arncharn Shel]] and Himineldar Shel), we may be able to infer that the caverns can be found within the Himineldar Shel, which coincides with our conclusion that the location for this vision is the Arid Steppe.</del>		<del>If the Empath has an affiliation with the Sisterhood of the Rose, she may be guarding access to the [[Rose Maiden]]'s Caverns, which is where the [[Kwarlog]] Dwarves discovered the body of a dead maiden holding a perfectly carved white stone rose. Although these tunnels collapsed and buried the maiden, her legacy lived on as the basis for the [[Rose Clan]], which eventually became known as the Sisterhood of the Rose <ref>[[Dwarven Timeline]]</ref>. In my research, I was unable to determine specifically which mountain or mountain range contained the Rose Maiden's Caverns. However, since we know it was located by the Kwarlog Dwarves (who's nation spanned the [[Arncharn Shel]] and Himineldar Shel), we may be able to infer that the caverns can be found within the Himineldar Shel, which coincides with our conclusion that the location for this vision is the Arid Steppe.</del>

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	=== Conclusion ===		= Conclusion =

	It's hard to make any firm conclusions from these types of visions. What could be literal might be interpreted as symbolic, and vice versa.		It's hard to make any firm conclusions from these types of visions. What could be literal might be interpreted as symbolic, and vice versa.

LADYMOFFITT at 20:06, 20 December 2020

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	There is unfortunately very little that I can conclude about these visions with full confidence.		There is unfortunately very little that I can conclude about these visions with full confidence.

	As of my most recent round of research, it's my belief that this Empath and her alfar were set to guard a passage into the Himineldar Shel mountains, perhaps the ~~location~~ location of the original Rose Maiden's Caverns. A company of soldiers in search of something, perhaps the caverns or their contents, demanded passage and we denied. They continued to return with a larger number of soldiers until they were able to overwhelm the Empath and her alfar, killing the Empath and maiming the alfar in the process. The soldiers most likely found what they were looking for and left.		As of my most recent round of research, it's my belief that this Empath and her alfar were set to guard a passage into the Himineldar Shel mountains, perhaps the location of the original Rose Maiden's Caverns. A company of soldiers in search of something, perhaps the caverns or their contents, demanded passage and were denied. They continued to return with a larger number of soldiers until they were able to overwhelm the Empath and her alfar, killing the Empath and maiming the alfar in the process. The soldiers most likely found what they were looking for and left.

	The alfar is now traveling the lands seeking out soldiers who were ~~present or~~ involved either in retribution, or perhaps to reclaim whatever has has been taken that ~~they~~ ~~were~~ guarding.		The alfar is now traveling the lands seeking out soldiers who were involved either in retribution or perhaps to reclaim whatever has has been taken that he had been guarding.

	Should there be any additional visions related to the Empath, I will continue to update these research notes and my conclusions.		Should there be any additional visions related to the Empath, I will continue to update these research notes and my conclusions.


	= Visions Referenced in this Research =		= Visions Referenced in this Research =

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	= Version History =		= Version History =

	10/13/2020 - v2.0, updated research to reflect two new visions.		<p>10/13/2020 - v2.0, updated research to reflect two new visions.<br />
	05/10/2020 - v1.0, added first round of research and notes.		05/10/2020 - v1.0, added first round of research and notes.</p>

	= Notes =		= Notes =