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		<title>ABSOLON at 21:54, 27 August 2015</title>
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::They&#039;re just cursed creatures, it&#039;s not a separate &quot;dark god minion&quot; flag. From my logs &quot;The blue brine shark is cursed, and you are certain that it has an incredible spirit that is healthy.&quot; --[[User:GAMERGIRL151|GAMERGIRL151]] ([[User talk:GAMERGIRL151|talk]]) 12:27, 27 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::I&#039;ve updated the Brine Shark page with that cursed data. As far as I&#039;m aware, there is no in-game &#039;minion of a dark god&#039; flag with either or both of cursed\undead&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/ins&gt; being used to indicate this&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; instead. I.e&lt;/ins&gt;. All the creatures I have found are either flagged as cursed or undead already and so would belong on this list anyway. I suspect that this is just a flowery description in the discern and doesn&#039;t need a separate distinction on the wiki.--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 16:53, 27 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>ABSOLON at 21:53, 27 August 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-08-27T21:53:03Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::The invading [[Brine shark]] (Drogor&#039;s minions) from last Hallow&#039;s Eve would be an example. These were vulnerable to Harm Evil. I cannot speak to whether they took additional damage from Bless. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:56 27 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::They&#039;re just cursed creatures, it&#039;s not a separate &quot;dark god minion&quot; flag. From my logs &quot;The blue brine shark is cursed, and you are certain that it has an incredible spirit that is healthy.&quot; --[[User:GAMERGIRL151|GAMERGIRL151]] ([[User talk:GAMERGIRL151|talk]]) 12:27, 27 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::I&#039;ve updated the Brine Shark page with that cursed data. As far as I&#039;m aware, there is no in-game &#039;minion of a dark god&#039; flag with either or both of cursed\undead being used to indicate this. All the creatures I have found are either flagged as cursed or undead already and so would belong on this list anyway. I suspect that this is just a flowery description in the discern and doesn&#039;t need a separate distinction on the wiki.--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 16:53, 27 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>GAMERGIRL151 at 17:27, 27 August 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-08-27T17:27:54Z</updated>

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		<title>RY4NPW at 16:16, 27 August 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-08-27T16:16:20Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Based purely on [[Discern command|{{tt|discern}}]], [[Bless]] is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while [[Harm Evil]] can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I&#039;d think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it&#039;d probably be better to add a &quot;Can use Bless&quot; flag within the [[Template:Critter]]. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that [[Harm Evil]] and [[Harm Horde]] are effective against, instead of [[Bless]]. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::The invading &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;sharks&lt;/del&gt; (Drogor&#039;s minions) from last Hallow&#039;s Eve would be &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;what&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I am referring to&lt;/del&gt;. These were vulnerable to Harm Evil&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;,&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;but&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;were&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;not&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;undead&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;or&lt;/del&gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;cursed&lt;/del&gt;. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:56 27 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::The invading &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Brine shark]]&lt;/ins&gt; (Drogor&#039;s minions) from last Hallow&#039;s Eve would be &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;an&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;example&lt;/ins&gt;. These were vulnerable to Harm Evil&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;cannot&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;speak&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;whether they took additional damage from&lt;/ins&gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Bless&lt;/ins&gt;. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:56 27 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>RY4NPW at 15:57, 27 August 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-08-27T15:57:30Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Based purely on [[Discern command|{{tt|discern}}]], [[Bless]] is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while [[Harm Evil]] can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I&#039;d think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it&#039;d probably be better to add a &quot;Can use Bless&quot; flag within the [[Template:Critter]]. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that [[Harm Evil]] and [[Harm Horde]] are effective against, instead of [[Bless]]. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Based purely on [[Discern command|{{tt|discern}}]], [[Bless]] is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while [[Harm Evil]] can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I&#039;d think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it&#039;d probably be better to add a &quot;Can use Bless&quot; flag within the [[Template:Critter]]. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that [[Harm Evil]] and [[Harm Horde]] are effective against, instead of [[Bless]]. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The concept is literally &quot;These creatures are undead, cursed, or both.&quot; Can you point me to a creature entry that is representative of a minion of a dark god? I want to look at the properties.--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 19:46, 12 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The concept is literally &quot;These creatures are undead, cursed, or both.&quot; Can you point me to a creature entry that is representative of a minion of a dark god? I want to look at the properties.--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 19:46, 12 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::The invading sharks (Drogor&#039;s minions) from last Hallow&#039;s Eve would be what I am referring to. These were vulnerable to Harm Evil, but were not undead or cursed. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:56 27 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>ABSOLON at 00:46, 13 August 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-08-13T00:46:14Z</updated>

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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Based purely on [[Discern command|{{tt|discern}}]], [[Bless]] is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while [[Harm Evil]] can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I&#039;d think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it&#039;d probably be better to add a &quot;Can use Bless&quot; flag within the [[Template:Critter]]. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that [[Harm Evil]] and [[Harm Horde]] are effective against, instead of [[Bless]]. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Based purely on [[Discern command|{{tt|discern}}]], [[Bless]] is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while [[Harm Evil]] can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I&#039;d think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it&#039;d probably be better to add a &quot;Can use Bless&quot; flag within the [[Template:Critter]]. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that [[Harm Evil]] and [[Harm Horde]] are effective against, instead of [[Bless]]. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The concept is literally &quot;These creatures are undead, cursed, or both.&quot; Can you point me to a creature entry that is representative of a minion of a dark god? I want to look at the properties.--[[User:ABSOLON|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON|talk]]) 19:46, 12 August 2015 (CDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>RY4NPW: Created page with &quot;Based purely on discern}}, Bless is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while Harm Evil can also be used against minions of the Da...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2015-08-12T15:40:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Based purely on &lt;a href=&quot;/Discern_command&quot; title=&quot;Discern command&quot;&gt;{{tt|discern}}&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;/Bless&quot; title=&quot;Bless&quot;&gt;Bless&lt;/a&gt; is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while &lt;a href=&quot;/Harm_Evil&quot; title=&quot;Harm Evil&quot;&gt;Harm Evil&lt;/a&gt; can also be used against minions of the Da...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Based purely on [[Discern command|{{tt|discern}}]], [[Bless]] is only effective against Undead/Cursed creatures, while [[Harm Evil]] can also be used against minions of the Dark Gods. I&amp;#039;d think we should do one of the following: (1.) Rename this concept if it only exists to determine whether or not Bless will add damage to attacks against creatures. Actually, it&amp;#039;d probably be better to add a &amp;quot;Can use Bless&amp;quot; flag within the [[Template:Critter]]. (2.) Modify the criteria to be creatures that [[Harm Evil]] and [[Harm Horde]] are effective against, instead of [[Bless]]. - [[Padhg]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:RY4NPW|talk]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:37 12 August 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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