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WINTERSTORM: /* Adding new unofficial groups?? */ new section

2017-09-22T18:13:22Z

Adding new unofficial groups??: new section

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	I'll do a separate topic on asking for 2 more pages to be created. :-)		I'll do a separate topic on asking for 2 more pages to be created. :-)
	[[User:WINTERSTORM\|WINTERSTORM]] ([[User talk:WINTERSTORM\|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2017 (CDT) Winterstorm (player of quite a few very old s'kras & others)		[[User:WINTERSTORM\|WINTERSTORM]] ([[User talk:WINTERSTORM\|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2017 (CDT) Winterstorm (player of quite a few very old s'kras & others)

			== Adding new unofficial groups?? ==

			Okay,

			As I said in my response to Rascalts player about the OMD, I have no clue yet how to add a new players unofficial group so if 1-someone can in dummy speak tell me how I can do it, if I have the permissions (I dont think I do)
			or 2- do it for me I'd really appreciate it.

			Lets see if I can list them out right.

			1- Order of the Mercury Dragon aka OMD, unofficial group only

			2- Sraan S'kra (they were around before that sraan hav'roth or whatever), unofficial order also. I know I saw on one of my drive a old member list.

			3- Sraan Hhrki, it can start under Cultural organizations & please under S'kra Sraans, also if needed Unofficial organizations. I can do it from there.

			If in any place it should be organizations & not orders then I apologize. I'm used to call any & all orders as thats what my main pc is used too. And many years of being the scribe/secretary for different groups in DR its a hard habit to break. And yes, including the OWR.

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	Looking for any of the former members or anyone who remembers the former members of the Order of the Mercury Dragon. Only 2 names I really remember from the order atm without finding my old notes somewhere in my storage shed are Vape and myself. (Rascalt) I'm looking for anyone who may have been one of the 10 members (Or knew one) of Elanthia's first Order who can help me piece together some history of the order and the struggles we went through with the Order of the White Rose to help create the Order system.		Looking for any of the former members or anyone who remembers the former members of the Order of the Mercury Dragon. Only 2 names I really remember from the order atm without finding my old notes somewhere in my storage shed are Vape and myself. (Rascalt) I'm looking for anyone who may have been one of the 10 members (Or knew one) of Elanthia's first Order who can help me piece together some history of the order and the struggles we went through with the Order of the White Rose to help create the Order system.


			--1st off, couldnt figure out how to reply to this so forgive me if I did it incorrectly.
			2nd off, no idea how old this topic is or if Rascalt is still about as it wasnt time or date tagged.
			3rd.. if someone would created an Unofficial page for them as I cant figure it out I could dig through my old records as scribe & post any info I have, I'm sure I might still have a members list somewhere on my drives (if I havent deleted them yet).

			I'll do a separate topic on asking for 2 more pages to be created. :-)
			[[User:WINTERSTORM\|WINTERSTORM]] ([[User talk:WINTERSTORM\|talk]]) 12:55, 22 September 2017 (CDT) Winterstorm (player of quite a few very old s'kras & others)

GNICKIA: /* Order of the Mercury Dragon */ new section

2016-11-29T07:55:10Z

Order of the Mercury Dragon: new section

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	::Lastly, if anyone has further comment about the Contraire page edits specifically, take them to the Contraire page's discussion page since this discussion page is not the place to do that.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:35, 25 January 2015 (CST)		::Lastly, if anyone has further comment about the Contraire page edits specifically, take them to the Contraire page's discussion page since this discussion page is not the place to do that.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:35, 25 January 2015 (CST)
	As there hasn't been any new contribution to the discussion in a few weeks, we have gone ahead with the current proposal. Thanks to everyone who contributed.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 16:34, 10 February 2015 (CST)		As there hasn't been any new contribution to the discussion in a few weeks, we have gone ahead with the current proposal. Thanks to everyone who contributed.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 16:34, 10 February 2015 (CST)

			== Order of the Mercury Dragon ==

			Looking for any of the former members or anyone who remembers the former members of the Order of the Mercury Dragon. Only 2 names I really remember from the order atm without finding my old notes somewhere in my storage shed are Vape and myself. (Rascalt) I'm looking for anyone who may have been one of the 10 members (Or knew one) of Elanthia's first Order who can help me piece together some history of the order and the struggles we went through with the Order of the White Rose to help create the Order system.

ABSOLON at 22:34, 10 February 2015

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	::Also, if you read any of the suggested options on this page, particularly number 3, you will quickly realize that this page title convention is being applied to ''all'' player organization pages once we decide on an acceptable policy to add to the manual of style.		::Also, if you read any of the suggested options on this page, particularly number 3, you will quickly realize that this page title convention is being applied to ''all'' player organization pages once we decide on an acceptable policy to add to the manual of style.
	::Lastly, if anyone has further comment about the Contraire page edits specifically, take them to the Contraire page's discussion page since this discussion page is not the place to do that.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:35, 25 January 2015 (CST)		::Lastly, if anyone has further comment about the Contraire page edits specifically, take them to the Contraire page's discussion page since this discussion page is not the place to do that.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:35, 25 January 2015 (CST)
			As there hasn't been any new contribution to the discussion in a few weeks, we have gone ahead with the current proposal. Thanks to everyone who contributed.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 16:34, 10 February 2015 (CST)

ISHARON at 21:29, 28 January 2015

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ISHARON at 21:29, 28 January 2015

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 ==Naming convention for player organizations and families==
 As part of the drive for standardizing page name conventions, we have come to the point we need to decide how to handle the page names of player organizations. Caraamon and I had a very brief discussion and came up with a basic guideline, but now need to open it up for suggestion and comment. What we came up with is as follows:
 *Pages for official player organizations will have their page names be exactly as it appears in the [http://forums.play.net/forums/DragonRealms/Official%20and%20Player-Run%20Organizations/view Official Player-Run Organizations] folder on the official forums.

ABSOLON at 03:35, 26 January 2015

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	: Lastly, the reason we're doing this is because we're trying to standardize naming conventions. Names are the first thing that comes up during searches, and in other searches they're all that come up. Therefor we are trying to make certain that all page names accurately reflect their contents. And that's what this is about, the title. Not the page contents, but the linking title by which you will be stored in databases as.		: Lastly, the reason we're doing this is because we're trying to standardize naming conventions. Names are the first thing that comes up during searches, and in other searches they're all that come up. Therefor we are trying to make certain that all page names accurately reflect their contents. And that's what this is about, the title. Not the page contents, but the linking title by which you will be stored in databases as.
	: We are trying to make a concerted effort to allow some flexibility, mainly with the proposed rule to allow names that get accepted to the play.net non-official group forums. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 19:10, 25 January 2015 (CST)		: We are trying to make a concerted effort to allow some flexibility, mainly with the proposed rule to allow names that get accepted to the play.net non-official group forums. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 19:10, 25 January 2015 (CST)
			::I will add, as I indicated in the first line of this discussion, that this process of page name standardization has been ongoing for some time now. See the news listing about category naming for the start date. We started with categories and capitalization because they were the most egregious, but the process of deciding which pages to deal with has been organic since then as pages come to our attention for whatever reason. The time to deal with player organization page naming standards has come up because the sexual content edits required on the Contraire page brought it to our attention.
			::Also, if you read any of the suggested options on this page, particularly number 3, you will quickly realize that this page title convention is being applied to ''all'' player organization pages once we decide on an acceptable policy to add to the manual of style.
			::Lastly, if anyone has further comment about the Contraire page edits specifically, take them to the Contraire page's discussion page since this discussion page is not the place to do that.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:35, 25 January 2015 (CST)

CARAAMON: /* Naming convention for player organizations and families */

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	There is no reason RP or otherwise the Contraires cannot be an extensive enterprise as defined under definition number 2. --[[User:GEELENJ\|GEELENJ]] ([[User talk:GEELENJ\|talk]]) 18:28, 25 January 2015 (CST)		There is no reason RP or otherwise the Contraires cannot be an extensive enterprise as defined under definition number 2. --[[User:GEELENJ\|GEELENJ]] ([[User talk:GEELENJ\|talk]]) 18:28, 25 January 2015 (CST)

			: First off, I want it to be absolutely clear, that while your page was the trigger for it, it is something that has needed to be done for a while and everyone will be changed to meet the new standard.
			: Second, while GMs have some oversight when it comes to the wiki, they are absolutely not staff and are not involved in the day to day activities of the wiki.
			: Lastly, the reason we're doing this is because we're trying to standardize naming conventions. Names are the first thing that comes up during searches, and in other searches they're all that come up. Therefor we are trying to make certain that all page names accurately reflect their contents. And that's what this is about, the title. Not the page contents, but the linking title by which you will be stored in databases as.
			: We are trying to make a concerted effort to allow some flexibility, mainly with the proposed rule to allow names that get accepted to the play.net non-official group forums. -[[User:CARAAMON\|CARAAMON]] ([[User talk:CARAAMON\|talk]]) 19:10, 25 January 2015 (CST)

GEELENJ: /* Naming convention for player organizations and families */

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	I'd like to know where else this has been done other than The Contraire Empire page? There are Elothean Houses, perhaps all Houses should be changed to reflect family post haste as to not confuse them as being an official House. I understand what you are saying but I also see that this was implemented yesterday and a very lengthy explanation written out. To perhaps make it look like you aren't only singling out the Contraire's some other pages could be adjusted, like current Houses. If we are trying to keep it from being confused with actual game lore, most families and player pages fall under this rule. If you are so offended by the name Empire there are syndicates and Houses and all sorts of bunk to be pointed out. I do as a rational person understand feathers are ruffled and this is something that has occurred in cycles throughout DR history. Is it really necessary to pick apart one page because it has upset your delicate senses?? The innuendos I understand as it is a family game. I thought the banner across the top states clearly and huge obnoxious ways that it is PLAYER RAN..it lets the viewer know smack in your face its NOT official and subject to 'opinion' ''Note that the following article is not necessarily accurate due to this group's status as a player-run organization. Because these types of articles are maintained by players about players, there is always the risk of alteration due to malice or desire for anonymity. This page will be monitored by the staff; please do not allow it to become a battleground. -The Elanthipedia Moderators'' Is this not enough to keep things sorted?? Is it not possible to add in that very banner that the 'name' of the organization or family is NOT reflective of DR History??? Is it necessary to snuff out everyone's view on how they see their families and characters?? That's like saying Caraamon. You are a Barbarian. Nothing more. Don't put your backstory up. Cause it's not true or factual as it's not recorded in history. Although you might think you are the loudest Gor'Tog ever, it's very possible there was a louder so you can't say that either. If you could just put aside what you think of the group itself and maybe be a bit open, it would be very much appreciated that you allow not just the Contraire's but ALL player groups to have a bit of freedom with what they label themselves. Make a different banner reminding us all again that it's NOT an actual empire.. Or just take away all imagination from Wiki and list only facts nothing more.. Just the facts.--[[User:THISACCOUNT\|THISACCOUNT]] ([[User talk:THISACCOUNT\|talk]]) 18:18, 25 January 2015 (CST)		I'd like to know where else this has been done other than The Contraire Empire page? There are Elothean Houses, perhaps all Houses should be changed to reflect family post haste as to not confuse them as being an official House. I understand what you are saying but I also see that this was implemented yesterday and a very lengthy explanation written out. To perhaps make it look like you aren't only singling out the Contraire's some other pages could be adjusted, like current Houses. If we are trying to keep it from being confused with actual game lore, most families and player pages fall under this rule. If you are so offended by the name Empire there are syndicates and Houses and all sorts of bunk to be pointed out. I do as a rational person understand feathers are ruffled and this is something that has occurred in cycles throughout DR history. Is it really necessary to pick apart one page because it has upset your delicate senses?? The innuendos I understand as it is a family game. I thought the banner across the top states clearly and huge obnoxious ways that it is PLAYER RAN..it lets the viewer know smack in your face its NOT official and subject to 'opinion' ''Note that the following article is not necessarily accurate due to this group's status as a player-run organization. Because these types of articles are maintained by players about players, there is always the risk of alteration due to malice or desire for anonymity. This page will be monitored by the staff; please do not allow it to become a battleground. -The Elanthipedia Moderators'' Is this not enough to keep things sorted?? Is it not possible to add in that very banner that the 'name' of the organization or family is NOT reflective of DR History??? Is it necessary to snuff out everyone's view on how they see their families and characters?? That's like saying Caraamon. You are a Barbarian. Nothing more. Don't put your backstory up. Cause it's not true or factual as it's not recorded in history. Although you might think you are the loudest Gor'Tog ever, it's very possible there was a louder so you can't say that either. If you could just put aside what you think of the group itself and maybe be a bit open, it would be very much appreciated that you allow not just the Contraire's but ALL player groups to have a bit of freedom with what they label themselves. Make a different banner reminding us all again that it's NOT an actual empire.. Or just take away all imagination from Wiki and list only facts nothing more.. Just the facts.--[[User:THISACCOUNT\|THISACCOUNT]] ([[User talk:THISACCOUNT\|talk]]) 18:18, 25 January 2015 (CST)


			em·pire (ĕm′pīr′)
			n.
			1.
			a. A political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority.
			b. The territory included in such a unit.
			2. An extensive enterprise under a unified authority: a publishing empire.
			3. Imperial or imperialistic sovereignty, domination, or control: the extension of empire to distant lands.

			There is no reason RP or otherwise the Contraires cannot be an extensive enterprise as defined under definition number 2. --[[User:GEELENJ\|GEELENJ]] ([[User talk:GEELENJ\|talk]]) 18:28, 25 January 2015 (CST)

THISACCOUNT: /* Naming convention for player organizations and families */

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	:::Some of what we are trying to accomplish with group pages could probably be handled via category. That way, we can designate the group's function without having to work it into the page name. --[[User:ISHARON\|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON\|talk]]) 14:45, 25 January 2015 (CST)		:::Some of what we are trying to accomplish with group pages could probably be handled via category. That way, we can designate the group's function without having to work it into the page name. --[[User:ISHARON\|ISHARON]] ([[User talk:ISHARON\|talk]]) 14:45, 25 January 2015 (CST)



			I'd like to know where else this has been done other than The Contraire Empire page? There are Elothean Houses, perhaps all Houses should be changed to reflect family post haste as to not confuse them as being an official House. I understand what you are saying but I also see that this was implemented yesterday and a very lengthy explanation written out. To perhaps make it look like you aren't only singling out the Contraire's some other pages could be adjusted, like current Houses. If we are trying to keep it from being confused with actual game lore, most families and player pages fall under this rule. If you are so offended by the name Empire there are syndicates and Houses and all sorts of bunk to be pointed out. I do as a rational person understand feathers are ruffled and this is something that has occurred in cycles throughout DR history. Is it really necessary to pick apart one page because it has upset your delicate senses?? The innuendos I understand as it is a family game. I thought the banner across the top states clearly and huge obnoxious ways that it is PLAYER RAN..it lets the viewer know smack in your face its NOT official and subject to 'opinion' ''Note that the following article is not necessarily accurate due to this group's status as a player-run organization. Because these types of articles are maintained by players about players, there is always the risk of alteration due to malice or desire for anonymity. This page will be monitored by the staff; please do not allow it to become a battleground. -The Elanthipedia Moderators'' Is this not enough to keep things sorted?? Is it not possible to add in that very banner that the 'name' of the organization or family is NOT reflective of DR History??? Is it necessary to snuff out everyone's view on how they see their families and characters?? That's like saying Caraamon. You are a Barbarian. Nothing more. Don't put your backstory up. Cause it's not true or factual as it's not recorded in history. Although you might think you are the loudest Gor'Tog ever, it's very possible there was a louder so you can't say that either. If you could just put aside what you think of the group itself and maybe be a bit open, it would be very much appreciated that you allow not just the Contraire's but ALL player groups to have a bit of freedom with what they label themselves. Make a different banner reminding us all again that it's NOT an actual empire.. Or just take away all imagination from Wiki and list only facts nothing more.. Just the facts.--[[User:THISACCOUNT\|THISACCOUNT]] ([[User talk:THISACCOUNT\|talk]]) 18:18, 25 January 2015 (CST)