Category talk:Heavy offensive abilities - Revision history

RY4NPW at 05:25, 24 August 2016

2016-08-24T05:25:48Z

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	::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
	:::It's possible that it simply has a lower base time, since I don't think there's anything that explicitly states all cooldowns are the same length. 300 - skill/3 modified by feat looks like it works for most of your values given the variability in prep time, but we'd need a second set of values done with different skill to compare.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 00:12, 24 August 2016 (CDT)		:::It's possible that it simply has a lower base time, since I don't think there's anything that explicitly states all cooldowns are the same length. 300 - skill/3 modified by feat looks like it works for most of your values given the variability in prep time, but we'd need a second set of values done with different skill to compare.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 00:12, 24 August 2016 (CDT)
			::::The "base" cooldown could be spell specific. From limited use, I would say the cooldown on HE+TOTRS feels almost twice as long. I don't have the hard numbers to back it up yet, but I'll work on getting those tomorrow. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 00:25, 24 August 2016 (CDT)

ABSOLON: /* Harm Horde + Time of the Red Spiral cooldowns */

2016-08-24T05:12:14Z

Harm Horde + Time of the Red Spiral cooldowns

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	:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
	::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
			:::It's possible that it simply has a lower base time, since I don't think there's anything that explicitly states all cooldowns are the same length. 300 - skill/3 modified by feat looks like it works for most of your values given the variability in prep time, but we'd need a second set of values done with different skill to compare.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 00:12, 24 August 2016 (CDT)

RY4NPW at 04:36, 24 August 2016

2016-08-24T04:36:38Z

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	:FWIW, I'm pretty sure it's not a blended PM/TM but simply TM ranks (including buffs) that affects the cooldown timer. The effective TM from a blended PM/TM only affects personal mana caps, and thus indirectly potency, duration, and integrity. I went to go do an extensive test using HE+TOTRS on the test server to see if I could duplicate your odd cases and maybe see if anything was different about them if I could... only to find that the global preview on test was shut off, so I'm unable to do so. Oh, well.		:FWIW, I'm pretty sure it's not a blended PM/TM but simply TM ranks (including buffs) that affects the cooldown timer. The effective TM from a blended PM/TM only affects personal mana caps, and thus indirectly potency, duration, and integrity. I went to go do an extensive test using HE+TOTRS on the test server to see if I could duplicate your odd cases and maybe see if anything was different about them if I could... only to find that the global preview on test was shut off, so I'm unable to do so. Oh, well.
	:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
			::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)

ABSOLON at 02:18, 24 August 2016

2016-08-24T02:18:51Z

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	:FWIW, I'm pretty sure it's not a blended PM/TM but simply TM ranks (including buffs) that affects the cooldown timer. The effective TM from a blended PM/TM only affects personal mana caps, and thus indirectly potency, duration, and integrity. I went to go do an extensive test using HE+TOTRS on the test server to see if I could duplicate your odd cases and maybe see if anything was different about them if I could... only to find that the global preview on test was shut off, so I'm unable to do so. Oh, well.~~--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)~~		:FWIW, I'm pretty sure it's not a blended PM/TM but simply TM ranks (including buffs) that affects the cooldown timer. The effective TM from a blended PM/TM only affects personal mana caps, and thus indirectly potency, duration, and integrity. I went to go do an extensive test using HE+TOTRS on the test server to see if I could duplicate your odd cases and maybe see if anything was different about them if I could... only to find that the global preview on test was shut off, so I'm unable to do so. Oh, well.
			:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)

ABSOLON: /* Harm Horde + Time of the Red Spiral cooldowns */

2016-08-24T02:11:53Z

Harm Horde + Time of the Red Spiral cooldowns

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			:FWIW, I'm pretty sure it's not a blended PM/TM but simply TM ranks (including buffs) that affects the cooldown timer. The effective TM from a blended PM/TM only affects personal mana caps, and thus indirectly potency, duration, and integrity. I went to go do an extensive test using HE+TOTRS on the test server to see if I could duplicate your odd cases and maybe see if anything was different about them if I could... only to find that the global preview on test was shut off, so I'm unable to do so. Oh, well.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)

RY4NPW: /* Harm Horde + Time of the Red Spiral cooldowns */ typo in the maths

2016-08-23T16:02:43Z

Harm Horde + Time of the Red Spiral cooldowns: typo in the maths

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RY4NPW at 16:00, 23 August 2016

2016-08-23T16:00:34Z

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 Cooldown = 375 seconds - Skill/3, If feat known then minus another 60 seconds. Lower cap unknown.

ABSOLON: /* Cooldowns */

2016-08-23T11:14:03Z

Cooldowns

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			Speculation:
			Cooldown = 375 seconds - Skill/3, If feat known then minus another 60 seconds. Lower cap unknown.

ABSOLON: /* Cooldowns */

2016-08-23T11:07:45Z

Cooldowns

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2016-08-06T08:10:12Z

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==Cooldowns==
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	::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
	:::It's possible that it simply has a lower base time, since I don't think there's anything that explicitly states all cooldowns are the same length. 300 - skill/3 modified by feat looks like it works for most of your values given the variability in prep time, but we'd need a second set of values done with different skill to compare.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 00:12, 24 August 2016 (CDT)		:::It's possible that it simply has a lower base time, since I don't think there's anything that explicitly states all cooldowns are the same length. 300 - skill/3 modified by feat looks like it works for most of your values given the variability in prep time, but we'd need a second set of values done with different skill to compare.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 00:12, 24 August 2016 (CDT)
			::::The "base" cooldown could be spell specific. From limited use, I would say the cooldown on HE+TOTRS feels almost twice as long. I don't have the hard numbers to back it up yet, but I'll work on getting those tomorrow. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 00:25, 24 August 2016 (CDT)

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	:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		:I'll also add that there appears to be a small occasional random factor, since I was occasionally getting a few seconds faster than what I posted (e.g. BTN was occasionally 246 with one 242) but I listed the most common by far value in both cases. It was certainly nothing on the scale of your two oddities, though.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 21:11, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
	::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)		::I do have very low TM, so if you use just my TM of 291, it doesn't fit within your speculated formula. Hence why I put the blended value. - [[User:RY4NPW\|padhg]] ([[User talk:RY4NPW\|talk]]) 23:36, 23 August 2016 (CDT)
			:::It's possible that it simply has a lower base time, since I don't think there's anything that explicitly states all cooldowns are the same length. 300 - skill/3 modified by feat looks like it works for most of your values given the variability in prep time, but we'd need a second set of values done with different skill to compare.--[[User:ABSOLON\|ABSOLON]] ([[User talk:ABSOLON\|talk]]) 00:12, 24 August 2016 (CDT)